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The AFV ASSOCIATION was formed in 1964 to support the thoughts and research of all those interested in Armored Fighting Vehicles and related topics, such as AFV drawings. The emphasis has always been on sharing information and communicating with other members of similar interests; e.g. German armor, Japanese AFVs, or whatever.
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Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 9:58 pm Post subject: Re: Full Militärmuseum
Another tank that is usually not on display. It belongs to the Vereain Centurion association, who collaborates with the Museum: Centurion M-78520 by Massimo Foti, on Flickr

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Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 9:56 pm Post subject: Re: Full Militärmuseum
This tanl is usually held in storage: Pz 68/88 M-78073 by Massimo Foti, on Flickr

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Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 9:56 pm Post subject: Re: Full Militärmuseum
Bridgelayer Pz 68 in action: Bpz 68 M-77884 by Massimo Foti, on Flickr

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Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2013 3:00 pm Post subject: Re: Saurer
- Massimo_Foti Definitely not a 5-ton, more of a 2-ton I would go for a 2.5t. I took another pic in "better" angle www.flickr.com/photos/...336047996/ The M+ number is most likely wrong. It belonged most likely to a tractor. _________________ www.wheelsandtracks.com and my pics on flickr

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Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2013 9:48 am Post subject: Re: Full Militärmuseum
This one is a new acquisition. It's missing from the PDF: ZSU-23-4 by Massimo Foti, on Flickr

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Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2013 6:14 am Post subject: Re: Full Militärmuseum
Definitely not a 5-ton, more of a 2-ton Massimo

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Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2013 10:34 pm
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Is it a 2.5-ton, or a 5-ton truck? The a 2.5-ton Saurer 1CR1D is visually very similar to the 5-ton 4CT1D. Bart Vanderveen describes the former (in The Observer's Army Vehicles to 1940 Directory) as basically a civilian model modified with a radiator brush guard, towing attachments, etc, to meet the military's specs and powered by a 65 bhp 4-cyl gasoline engine. The 5-ton truck had a 6-cyl diesel producing 100 bhp.
If you had a profile pic, it would be easier to tell, based on the length of the cargo bed. from this angle, it looks like it has the shorter bed of the 2.5-tonner.

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Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2013 2:08 pm Post subject: Re: Full Militärmuseum
Should be a Saurer 4CT1D 4x2 Cargo Truck Here is one more ,also swiss number www.google.nl/imgres?q...0,s:0,i:80 Walter

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Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2013 11:24 am Post subject: Re: Full Militärmuseum
This is the last id missing. It's a Saurer truck, from the look it seems a model from the thirties. But I am unable to find the exact id: Saurer truck by Massimo Foti, on Flickr

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Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2013 11:22 am Post subject: Re: Full Militärmuseum
Pretty cool early model Opel Blitz: Opel Blitz Ambulance by Massimo Foti, on Flickr

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Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2013 8:26 am
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You are welcome!
Edit: The SUMB has remarkably made appearances in mainstream movies, like Bad Boys II...
www.imcdb.org/vehicle_...-1954.html
www.imcdb.org/vehicle_...-SUMB.html
pics.imcdb.org/0is343/...y.2420.jpg

And I remembered an incident I was called to during my Army days when an M911 T-boned an old Opel Ascona, fortunately without injuries to anyone.

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Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2013 8:22 am Post subject: Re: Full Militärmuseum
Thanks! Massimo

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Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2013 8:21 am Post subject: Re: Full Militärmuseum
The tractor is easy: Oshkosh M911. The little French truck is a Simca-Unic-Marmon-Bocquet MH600BS. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...746.2FM747 fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simca_Marmon commons.wikimedia.org/...MB_MH600BS _________________ 1/72 and 1/76 scale fanatic. Last edited by Costas_TT on Fri Jul 19, 2013 8:24 am; edited 1 time in total

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Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2013 4:56 am Post subject: Re: Full Militärmuseum
I am looking for the model of this one too: Sigma-Unic by Massimo Foti, on Flickr

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Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2013 4:54 am Post subject: Re: Full Militärmuseum
We saw this truck during the event. Do you know the exact model? Oshkosh truck by Massimo Foti, on Flickr

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