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- Massimo_Foti

Not sure how this one should be considered:
preservedtanks.com/Pro...p;Select=4

Massimo

MAssimo,

thanks. IMO, it should be considered as a Firefly. I'll add it later today.

However, I think that this particular tank should not be part of the PDF file. It appears to be a Grizzly tank (has to be confirmed), with the 17 Pdr gun added, but without all the other Firefly features (doesn't have the plate for the hull MG, doesn't have the typical gun mantlet etc..) :

Apart from the Grizzly Firefly @ Etobicoke Collegiate Institute, Toronto, it seems that very few US M4A1s were converted to Firefly tanks.

P-O

Massimo_Foti

Not sure how this one should be considered:
preservedtanks.com/Pro...4&Select=4

Massimo

the_shadock

- TrevorLarkum

Nice work!

I don't see the bridgelayer at Cwmbran (or is it the one now at Chatham?). It's still showing in Google.

Trevor,

I do think it is the one now located at Chatham, until a photo taken in 2009 proves I am wrong (and if I'm wrong, that's excellent news !! because there seems to be only 1 complete Churchill bridgelayer still surviving.)

However, that's what I found on a forum :

"There used to be one outside the TA centre in Cwmbran gently rusting away. "
http://airfixtributeforum.myfastforum.org/ftopic3588-0-asc-0.php

P-O

the_shadock

Still working on "new" things..

Sherman Ic, Hybrid Ic and Vc :

http://the.shadock.free.fr/Surviving_Sherman_Fireflies.pdf

Wink

P-O

the_shadock

- Michel_Krauss

No offence to our British friends, however it was not an real master piece of design or performance

Michel

Well, I would prefer to get a Churchill instead of a Comet, as a vehicle for my collection.
It's maybe because there are many Churchill as monuments in Normandy and Britanny, and because there are no Comets displayed as monuments in France..

P-O

Michel_Krauss

- the_shadock

there are nearly 100 surviving Churchill tanks... and for this file, I was able to get high-quality pictures for some tanks, that's why the file is bigger

Sorry P-O, just fooling around an little

However it still suprises that there are that many survivors
No offence to our British friends, however it was not an real master piece of design or performance

Michel

TrevorLarkum

Nice work!

I don't see the bridgelayer at Cwmbran (or is it the one now at Chatham?). It's still showing in Google.

the_shadock

- Michel_Krauss

That's make me wonder what you have listed

Not every English tank is an Churchill you know
Just like the fact that every German tank reported on the Western front in WW2, wasn't an Tiger

Michel

Michel,

there are nearly 100 surviving Churchill tanks... and for this file, I was able to get high-quality pictures for some tanks, that's why the file is bigger.

P-O

Michel_Krauss

it's a 10 MB file

That's make me wonder what you have listed

Not every English tank is an Churchill you know
Just like the fact that every German tank reported on the Western front in WW2, wasn't an Tiger Wink

Michel

the_shadock

Again, after our discussions about Churchills located in England, you would not be surprised to find this :

http://the.shadock.free.fr/Surviving_Churchills.pdf

Beware : it's a 10 MB file

Wink

P-O

the_shadock

you would not be surprised to find this :

http://the.shadock.free.fr/Surviving_Sherman_Dozers.pdf

Wink

P-O

the_shadock

- Tichenor

its from a private collection In Turnhout, Belgium ( the same owner as the M4(105) Joe Dope, the M4(105) previous at Poteau and the T-34/85 witch was last year at Tanks in Town.

Michel

Could we add all the list to the Belgium AFVs register?

P-O

Tichenor

P-O

Some remarks on the Grizzly list:

This one is in a private collection but its locationisn't Belgium but it's Luxembourg.

the one with the unknown location where you made the picture, did you make it at tanks in town two years back? If so the its from a private collection In Turnhout, Belgium ( the same owner as the M4(105) Joe Dope, the M4(105) previous at Poteau and the T-34/85 witch was last year at Tanks in Town.

Michel

JimWeb

I suspect thats their tracking number - which probably gives a good idea just how much stuff is on their books.

the_shadock

that's great, thanks !!

BTW, there was no Grizzly produced with a SN 3305..
The Shop No. range is from 1 to 188.

Pierre-Olivier

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