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Pictures from Saumur - outside storage areas / ID Help!
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Could this help??

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The BTR-50 PU has also two bow cupolas.. and it seems to be more likely a BTR-50 PU for me..

P-O


Could be, although I'm missing some antenna bases- hard to say without a roof shot. Anybody know where it came from?
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Neil,

make that "BTR-50 behind VAB" an OT-62, since it has two bow cupolas, the BTR-50 only has one.

Cheers,

Jens O.


The BTR-50 PU has also two bow cupolas.. and it seems to be more likely a BTR-50 PU for me..

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Neil,

make that "BTR-50 behind VAB" an OT-62, since it has two bow cupolas, the BTR-50 only has one.

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Is this another VP 90?





This is a Hotchkiss HB-40, and the second one that we saw behind it (not on the photo) is another Fouga VP-90 :




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Another AMX-10P (probably a more recently used demonstrator)





Probably an AMX-10 VOA (Artillery Observation Vehicle), because of the big thing on the top of the hull :


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Just to get this back on track,

apparently one Panther was trialed in VN, but returned after a few weeks, confirmed by at least two sources, check the thread here on ML. We'll have to wait and see if Mr Touzin parts with more info in the next few days.

I'd love to see pics of the SdKfz 251 in country...

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Nawww,

it was never ever pink- that should be the one that was sitting on a square in Gay Paree for decades, ever since the war... But maybe one of the others or even the one shown in Beltring? Must've been the sneaky Viet Minh who blew up the running gear. Cool


Awww...you Fritz's won't ever let a 'Murican have any fun. Sad

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Who they kiddin'? I bet that was recovered from Vietnam in '54, then hastily painted over with that Free French thingie (and to hide the pink) and weathered to keep the secret and all us guessin', those conniving cheese eaters. We oughta' task P-O to get to the bottom of this, tout de suite. Wink



Nawww,

it was never ever pink- that should be the one that was sitting on a square in Gay Paree for decades, ever since the war... But maybe one of the others or even the one shown in Beltring? Must've been the sneaky Viet Minh who blew up the running gear. Cool
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Ooops,

shouldn't do these late-nighters- the frontview is an M32, I think an M32B2, the rear end is that of an M74.

Sorry about that

Jens O.


No, I think you're right the first time...you had me hustle to my "Sherman" and only the M74 had the blade and the winch up on the turret, 'ccording to that.
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Who they kiddin'? I bet that was recovered from Vietnam in '54, then hastily painted over with that Free French thingie (and to hide the pink) and weathered to keep the secret and all us guessin', those conniving cheese eaters. We oughta' task P-O to get to the bottom of this, tout de suite. Wink

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Ooops,

shouldn't do these late-nighters- the frontview is an M32, I think an M32B2, the rear end is that of an M74.

Sorry about that

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Are both TRVs M74s? There are 2 different ones...

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Weeeeell,

since you asked- that TRV is an ARV and is known as the M74 to CIAs. Laughing

I agree that the turret in question is from a Panther, and the unknown Soviet tanks seem to be both T55s. The BTR-50 could also be an OT-62, but I'd need to see the front end for that.

The unknown recovery vehicle looks darn familiar, but I can't quite put my finger on it, I want to say former WP, but I could be off the mark, heck, I couldn't even remember the Sagaie although I've been around them.

That rusty turret with the pulleys also looks familiar and I know I'll slap my head as soon as somebody else identifies it, but for the time being, I'm lost like a 2LT with a map and a compass. Mr. Green

Cheers and FWIW,

Jens O.
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Neil,
I'd be glad to help but being here at work the image host you use is blocked. It'll be Friday before I can view them.

Sorry
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