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the_shadock · Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 11:38 am Post subject: Re: French and American FT-17

- the_shadock

Which tank does this turret come from? I did a quick search.. but obviously it doesn't correspond to any French pre-WW2 tank..

P-O

JimWeb · Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 10:51 am Post subject: Re: French and American FT-17

- Neil_Baumgardner

Here is an FT-17 TSF at Zeiterholz in France (yes, the suspension is not original - or useful!):

Thats a Citroen-produced suspension unit used to emplace the hulls after they had been stripped of the suspension - the hull should be sat on steel platform between the track units. Merely used to carry the hull.

Cool

the_shadock · Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 5:14 am Post subject: Re: French and American FT-17

Neil,

I also noticed these hulls and not listed FT-17s. I will check this up this week, not really the time yet. The museum with the turrets and the FT-17 body is 20 kilometers far from where I live and I wondered what's this steel box with big rivets... Laughing

. That's the famous "Bunker with a tank on the top" a.k.a. the Casemate Esch museum. Here are some photos :

(not mine)

P-O

Neil_Baumgardner · Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 2:02 am Post subject: Re: French and American FT-17

Here is an FT-17 TSF at Zeiterholz in France (yes, the suspension is not original - or useful!):

www.mablehome.com/molv...rholz2.htm

There's apparently also an FT-17 TSF in Fermont, France and at the Hackenberg Museum in Veckring, France.

Apparently they were buried on the Maginot Line - not sure which location this is from:

There were also turret emplacements, but these appear to be seperate from hulls:
po2260.club.fr/FT17/FT...DIVERS.htm

Neil

Neil_Baumgardner · Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 1:37 am Post subject: Re: French and American FT-17

Larkum's Preserved Tanks in France says there is an FT-17 at the "Somme Museum" in Amiens... Anyone know which museum this is, or have a pic of this FT-17?

Neil

Neil_Baumgardner · Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 11:16 pm Post subject: Re: French and American FT-17

I wonder if "Mister Worthington" is in that picture.

Neil

armyjunk2 · ***Power User*** Offline Joined: Sep 22, 2006 Posts: 1416

Here's a photo I guess most have seen but maybe not.......captioned "Six Ton Tank (1917) About 140 M1917 light tanks were supplied by the USA in 1940 for training purposes" to Canada

armyjunk2 · ***Power User*** Offline Joined: Sep 22, 2006 Posts: 1416

Here are a couple views of the Borden tank, not great pics but the lighting inside was very bad

Neil_Baumgardner · Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 4:53 pm Post subject: Re: French and American FT-17

Not sure why the picture isnt working (or the link for that matter), but you can find it at: ipmswinnipeg.1afm.com/...20AFVs.htm - scroll down to the Ontario, Borden section.

Thanks to lurker Alf Adams for pointing this site out to me, I am working to incorporate the info to my Canada AFV Register file...

Neil

Neil_Baumgardner · Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 4:44 pm Post subject: Re: French and American FT-17

Here is a picture of the Borden M1917...

Neil

Neil_Baumgardner · Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 3:48 pm Post subject: Re: French and American FT-17

I guess you could also try the Nitro city hall...

That tank's got a bit of a history, it used to be outside the railroad station in Alexandria, VA - but I think it was gone long before I moved into the area...

Neil

Chris_C · Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 3:45 pm Post subject: Re: French and American FT-17

- Neil_Baumgardner

Chris,
Sure, here's where I got the info. No idea where in Huntington it is stored

Thanks for the info. I'll see if the paper has any idea. Smile

JimWeb · Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 11:37 am Post subject: Re: French and American FT-17

Scrap is cheaper than processed iron/steel when your forced to pay cash for everything.

Cool

bsmart · Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 1:14 am Post subject: Re: French and American FT-17

- JimWeb

Scrap was more welcome in the UK than iron ore which required far more processing, Imports of it tailed off once we began to win battles, capture the ground and started advancing as there was a closer (and free) supply recovered from the battlefield. American ships even carried it as ballast on their return to the USA.

I wasn't suggesting Iron Ore but processed Iron/steel. plate or ingots would not only take less space than scrap but would also save the transporting of the 'energy source' (Metalurgical grade coal, etc) needed to process thescrap into usable 'raw steel'. plate, ingots, or structural steel components would arrive in a much more usable state than scrap

Doug_Kibbey · Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 9:41 pm Post subject: Re: French and American FT-17

- the_shadock

- Doug_Kibbey

Also, I've got one of the one in the Patton Museum from this year and from 1971 out front (same vehicle) that I can post for you later. Just arrived in Europe and don't have access to my files here.

So there is something I don't understand. The Patton Museum has a FT-17 since 1971. This museum received 2 more FT-17 (more or less wrecks) from Afghanistan, and now, only 2 are exposed. What happened to the 3dr one?

I think that I'll do a survining FT-17 PDF file too..

P-O

Oh...one more thing (I'm late on this...been away on holiday)....the first FT-17 pictured at the beginning of this thread is definitely the one that used to be outside back in 1971...I proved that with my old pic from that time from the pattern of holes around the left side of the turret, posted somewhere way back in this forum after my trip in May.

Just in case you wanna' know...

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