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PostPosted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 10:42 am
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This sure beats the hell out of the Ontos in the firepower department and it pre-dates it as well. What vehicle and rr are used?


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vehicle looks like a British Universal ( IE "Bren Gun") carrier, RRs might be Burney's

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 11:47 am
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The base vehicle is a T16 Universal Carrier, the American production variant of the British Universal Carrier.

Where did you find the picture? Caption? Time frame?
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THATS COOL!!!

AH, but doesn't out gun the Ontos. It seems to be equal. I count 6 actual RR's.

Predates the Ontos perhaps. Would love to know WHAT, WHEN, & WHERE....

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 4:06 pm
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- Hanno_Spoelstra
The base vehicle is a T16 Universal Carrier, the American production variant of the British Universal Carrier.

Where did you find the picture? Caption? Time frame?


Hi,

Watermark on the pic indicates it has something to do with the Argentinian Army. Maybe a local variant?

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Gun appears to be the same as on this vehicle (also in Argentina). They have a T19 tucked back here as well, but with no gun.



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 6:13 pm
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Not quite as well tooled-up, but the target's interesting!

Fort Benning, 1950.
Doug's pictures look like a Model 1968 105mm, so too late a weapon?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...illess_Gun
I've found a reference for the Dutch mounting 106mm Recoilless Guns on a Universal carrier.
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Is that a panther in the LIFE picture?

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 9:42 pm
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I've found a reference for the Dutch mounting 106mm Recoilless Guns on a Universal carrier.


Interesting, can you tell us more?
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 10:14 pm
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Not a lot Hanno, a mention from a book revue.
www.perthmilitarymodel...onv110.htm
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Not a lot Hanno, a mention from a book revue.
www.perthmilitarymodel...onv110.htm


Thanks for the lead, will see if I can dig up more.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 1:38 pm
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Hi Folks!

- bsmart
Is that a panther in the LIFE picture?


To this old Scouts' eyes, I would report I am under attack by a PANTHER tank! Panther at Ft B during 1950? I wonder where the remains are?

Sgt, Scouts out!

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I'd say that aged as the Scout may be, his eyesight is 20:20!
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 11:25 pm
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Not a lot Hanno, a mention from a book revue.
www.perthmilitarymodel...onv110.htm


Thanks for the lead, will see if I can dig up more.


It took some time to find a copy of the Osprey book about the Carrier, perhaps I should find a better location to store it Mr. Green

However the info Perth is giving is not correct

The only thing I could find was a picture's of a vehicle of the Danish army that possible was fitted with a 106mm RR-AT
However it also telling that it could be a dummy barrel and that the vehicle was used training exercises (perhaps OPFOR vehicle Confused )

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I'd say that aged as the Scout may be, his eyesight is 20:20!


We prefer to think of it as the "youth challenged". TY very much. Wink
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