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Massimo_Foti · Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 4:23 pm Post subject: Re: Three Amigos in Lesany

Massimo_Foti · Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 5:10 pm Post subject: Re: Three Amigos in Lesany

This shot instead was taken with available light and an f/4.0 lens at 1/25 of a second. The crazy thing is I used ISO 6400 Smile

SU-76M by Massimo Foti, on Flickr

Massimo_Foti · Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 4:54 pm Post subject: Re: Three Amigos in Lesany

Indoor display is pretty dark. This was shot by Patrik with an external flash:

SU-76M by Massimo Foti, on Flickr

Massimo_Foti · Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 4:20 pm Post subject: Re: Three Amigos in Lesany

Hetzer by Massimo Foti, on Flickr

Massimo_Foti · Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 8:13 pm Post subject: Re: Three Amigos in Lesany

I know, but that shouldn't happens in the AFVs Museum of the Czech Army. Nobody in Thun, Burgdorf, Full or Schaffausen would try to turn a G-13 into an Hetzer, it doesn't matter how often it happens outside Switzerland.

In Lesany they don't remove the Notek lights from their T-34, JS-152 or SU-100 to make them look like WW-II soviet tanks. Those special czech fittings are an integral part of their history.

I could understand if something like that happened to Littlefield's Pz IV, just not in Lesany (or even Latrun)

Massimo

the_shadock · Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 8:00 pm Post subject: Re: Three Amigos in Lesany

In people's mind, "PzKpfw IV Ausf. J" is more popular than "T-40/75". That's just the same for the G-13. "Jagdpanzer 38(t)" is much more popular and everybody knows what it is. Just ask some people wearing US, British or German uniforms during a reenactment event what a G-13 is, I'm sure they think it is a warbird Wink

P-O

Massimo_Foti · Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 4:24 pm Post subject: Re: Three Amigos in Lesany

I am not nitpicking on the camo, in the end it's not worst than what we see in Saumur or Bovington. But the schürzen are quite crappy.
Most of all, I can't understand why they removed the czech-specific features that made it much more of an unique piece and were relevant to the history of the Czechoslovakian Army ...

Massimo

Pzkpfw-e · ***Power User*** Offline Joined: Jul 21, 2010 Posts: 1202

Oh dear, that PzIVJ is abysmal!
Shurzen wrong, camo even worse!

Massimo_Foti · Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 8:31 am Post subject: Re: Three Amigos in Lesany

I forgot to add that Patrik was so shocked after seeing the new coat of pink paint, that he wasn't able to take any pictures of it Laughing

Massimo

Massimo_Foti · Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 4:22 pm Post subject: Re: Three Amigos in Lesany

I know you were all waiting for this, the one and only "Pink Stalin" Smile

JS-2 by Massimo Foti, on Flickr

Patrik · Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2012 7:44 pm Post subject: Re: Three Amigos in Lesany

Czechoslovak modification PZ-IV called T-40/75 (T-40/75N)

forum.valka.cz/viewtop...hp/t/59715

Massimo_Foti · Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2012 7:37 pm Post subject: Re: Three Amigos in Lesany

Another shot, even at that distance and in poor light, it was disappointing:

Pz IV and 7.5 cm Pak 97/38 by Massimo Foti, on Flickr

Massimo_Foti · Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2012 7:26 pm Post subject: Re: Three Amigos in Lesany

The Pz IV is now inside a very dark hangar, that try to replicate some tank/trench warfare. Taking pictures over there is a nightmare (but average visitors are impressed).
Here you can see the Pz IV after restoration, they removed the czech-specific modifications... Almost as bad as turning a G-13 into an Hetzer Sad

On top of that, I think they made a poor job on the schurzen:

Pz IV in 2012 by Massimo Foti, on Flickr

Massimo_Foti · Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2012 6:47 pm Post subject: Re: Three Amigos in Lesany

See the Pz IV in MVTF, it's a former Syrian tank:
www.flickr.com/photos/...826904687/

Another veteran of the Six Days War is in Latrun:
www.flickr.com/photos/...627712088/

Massimo_Foti · Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2012 6:07 pm Post subject: Re: Three Amigos in Lesany

As I said, the Museum improved a lot compared to 14 years ago, only thing I am not happy is the way they restored their Pz IV. Here you can see a picture taken in 1998. You can see the post WWII modifications added by the Czechslovakian Army. It's worth to note they are same external fittings of the Pz IVs used by the Syrian Army (see the tank in Latrun or at the MVTF in California).

Pz IV in 1998 by Massimo Foti, on Flickr

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