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JoeD's Frankenstein (M48A5/M60A2)
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A4 was assigned to M48s that were to receive M60A1 turrets when it was assumed that there were to be lots of surplus A1 turrets due to the A2 program... It fell through when a lot less M60s were converted to A2s than originally planned... Hunnicutt's Patton 234-237.

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this box??



Yep. And, if you can get a view to the right of that, above and to the right of where those white printed numbers are, that would be interesting too. There should be a set of fire extinguisher handles there that seem to have been removed. Maybe you can confirm that. (that area is out of view behind the left fender in this angle)
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this box??

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Hi Jim! Hi Folks!

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Its an XM48A4...

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I though the US Army assigned "A4" to the IDF modified M48s? Confused

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WILL DO
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mark what is the box? remember I am not a tanker.....

AJ

On the slope infront of the Drivers hatch there is a metal box that has been welded onto the tank that seems unusual to us. It appears to have some kind of connectors on one side. Any close ups that would help identify the purpose would be helpful.

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Enough!

Its an XM48A4...

Six of them were converted. I wonder what happened to the remaining five?

Cool


Revised information - we suspect it is an XM48A4E1. These were meant for Taiwan but IIRC the M60A2 turrets they eventually procured ended up being used in fortifications.

Cool


Jim,
Taiwan acquiring M60A2 anything is definitely something I'd like to hear more about. Like, why only six, why not M60A2's as originally configured, what kind of ammo were they going to use (conventional or Shillelagh to be supplied) and when was this deal? Any documentation of this? (I don't doubt you, but it's the first I've heard of it, I'd love to have a reference for my historical files on this, given my connection to the vehicle). Please tell us more. I'd love to see any pics of an M60A2 turret in a fixed fortification application.* This is one of the strangest stories regarding U.S. equipment (especially anything I worked on, particularly an Armor Board project) to come down the pike in a while! Shocked

*I go to Taiwan from time-to-time and have been from the North end to the Southern tip. There's a chance I could get a pic if we knew where one of these things was and it's not too sensitive a military area...and the Taiwanese can be pretty sensitive about their military areas. I'd sure give it a shot and I'm not without contacts.
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mark what is the box? remember I am not a tanker.....
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i will take you all some pictures, drivers hatch, what else?


Get a picture of the 'box' on the glacis.

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Enough!

Its an XM48A4...

Six of them were converted. I wonder what happened to the remaining five?

Cool


Revised information - we suspect it is an XM48A4E1. These were meant for Taiwan but IIRC the M60A2 turrets they eventually procured ended up being used in fortifications.

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i will take you all some pictures, drivers hatch, what else?
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Enough!

Its an XM48A4...

Six of them were converted. I wonder what happened to the remaining five?

Cool

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We could use a good clear picture of the drivers Hatch area. That is what determines if it is an M48 (small hatch) or M48A1

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Thanks Don I always wondered where that was
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That is a odd one, I'm going to see it tomorrow. good excuse for a short road trip


In case you needed it.



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