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Massimo_Foti · Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 5:41 pm Post subject: Re: Three Amigos in Overloon

I am unable to identify this truck, can anybody help?

Massimo_Foti · Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 10:53 am Post subject: Re: Three Amigos in Overloon

- JiriTintera

Overloon's tractor Pavesi-Tolotti probably been in service with the Italian Expeditionary Corps, which fought in France in 1918.

I am afraid we can just guess. Pavesi's tractors were used a lot by civilians too. Pavesi himself never really like to work for the military, he designed his machines with agricultural usage in mind and he sold more to civil than military customers.

Massimo

JiriTintera · Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 10:43 am Post subject: Re: Three Amigos in Overloon

- Massimo_Foti

This was a great surprise for me in Overloon. It's a rare WW I italian artillery tractor, designed by Ugo Pavesi:

Pavesi Tolotti by Massimo Foti, on Flickr

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Dear Massimo,
Overloon's tractor Pavesi-Tolotti probably been in service with the Italian Expeditionary Corps, which fought in France in 1918.

Massimo_Foti · Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 10:08 am Post subject: Re: Three Amigos in Overloon

T17E1 Staghound by Massimo Foti, on Flickr

Massimo_Foti · Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 8:46 am Post subject: Re: Three Amigos in Overloon

Steyr 2000 A by Massimo Foti, on Flickr

Massimo_Foti · Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 6:55 am Post subject: Re: Three Amigos in Overloon

What kind of Caterpillar is this? I suspect it could be an early D7, but I am not sure:

Caterpillar by Massimo Foti, on Flickr

Massimo_Foti · Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 6:54 am Post subject: Re: Three Amigos in Overloon

- TrevorLarkum

If no-one raises an objection I'll add this photo to the contributor pages for Walter and Michel - it's a neat shot.

As long as I keep getting the royalties, it's fine for me Laughing

Massimo

TrevorLarkum · Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2012 10:31 pm Post subject: Re: Three Amigos in Overloon

- Massimo_Foti

Two amigos and a Cromwell :-)

Cromwell Mk IV by Massimo Foti, on Flickr

If no-one raises an objection I'll add this photo to the contributor pages for Walter and Michel - it's a neat shot.

Massimo_Foti · Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2012 7:43 pm Post subject: Re: Three Amigos in Overloon

This was a great surprise for me in Overloon. It's a rare WW I italian artillery tractor, designed by Ugo Pavesi:

Pavesi Tolotti by Massimo Foti, on Flickr

I've seen quite a few Pavesi tractors in the past, including one in Switzerland and another in Sinsheim, but they are later models:
www.flickr.com/photos/...9694698257
www.flickr.com/photos/...6999486725

First time ever I see such an older model. It's in great shape too

Massimo

Massimo_Foti · Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2012 7:39 pm Post subject: Re: Three Amigos in Overloon

PTRL-CA1 Cheetah by Massimo Foti, on Flickr

Massimo_Foti · Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2012 7:37 pm Post subject: Re: Three Amigos in Overloon

I can't believe it took years for Michel to properly recognize this mighty swiss vehicle sitting outside in Overloon.! Smile

Mowag Panzerattrappe 4x4 by Massimo Foti, on Flickr

Massimo_Foti · Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2012 7:35 pm Post subject: Re: Three Amigos in Overloon

Glad you like them. I will assemble a DVD from Delft and Overloon and send you and Michel a copy.

Massimo

Walter · Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2012 7:31 pm Post subject: Re: Three Amigos in Overloon

Hi Massimo
The poleshots from the Panther turned out very interesting !

Walter

Massimo_Foti · Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 6:04 pm Post subject: Re: Three Amigos in Overloon

Panther G by Massimo Foti, on Flickr

the_shadock · Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 4:58 pm Post subject: Re: Three Amigos in Overloon

- Pzkpfw-e

They soon exchanged their camo for standard US uniform, as even us British shot at anything wearing camo uniforms!

Recent researches proved that they didn't stop to wear camouflaged uniform because of friendly fire, but due to a shortage of supplies. The camouflaged 2-piece uniform was distributed in very little quantities on the Western front in August 1944, and only 2 units of the 2nd armored division have been clearly identified to have wear this kind of uniform.

Indeed, the uniform was not worn after September 1944 because they were damaged/worn for having been used during hard fightings, and there was a shortage of identical supplies, so the worn uniforms were replaced with new olive drab HBT uniforms. Moreover, if there were really problems with friendly fire, some of the guys from the 41st Infantry Regiment would not have kept the camouflaged uniform up to late September 1944, as seen on wartime pictures of the Battle of Brest.

P-O

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