±Recent Visitors

Recent Visitors to Com-Central!

±User Info-big


Welcome Anonymous

Nickname
Password

Membership:
Latest: cgsimpson
New Today: 0
New Yesterday: 0
Overall: 6645

People Online:
Members: 0
Visitors: 288
Total: 288
Who Is Where:
 Visitors:
01: Community Forums
02: Home
03: Photo Gallery
04: Photo Gallery
05: Downloads
06: Community Forums
07: Photo Gallery
08: Community Forums
09: Community Forums
10: Community Forums
11: Home
12: Photo Gallery
13: Community Forums
14: Community Forums
15: Home
16: Community Forums
17: Community Forums
18: Downloads
19: Photo Gallery
20: Downloads
21: Community Forums
22: Community Forums
23: Photo Gallery
24: Community Forums
25: Community Forums
26: Community Forums
27: Your Account
28: Community Forums
29: Community Forums
30: Community Forums
31: Home
32: Community Forums
33: Community Forums
34: News Archive
35: Community Forums
36: Community Forums
37: Community Forums
38: Community Forums
39: Community Forums
40: News Archive
41: Community Forums
42: Photo Gallery
43: Community Forums
44: Community Forums
45: Community Forums
46: Statistics
47: Home
48: Community Forums
49: Community Forums
50: Photo Gallery
51: Photo Gallery
52: Photo Gallery
53: Community Forums
54: Community Forums
55: Community Forums
56: Home
57: Community Forums
58: Home
59: Community Forums
60: Community Forums
61: Community Forums
62: Home
63: Community Forums
64: Community Forums
65: Community Forums
66: Community Forums
67: Community Forums
68: Community Forums
69: Photo Gallery
70: Community Forums
71: Home
72: Home
73: Community Forums
74: Community Forums
75: Community Forums
76: Community Forums
77: Community Forums
78: Community Forums
79: Community Forums
80: Community Forums
81: Community Forums
82: Community Forums
83: Community Forums
84: Community Forums
85: Home
86: Community Forums
87: Community Forums
88: Photo Gallery
89: Community Forums
90: Photo Gallery
91: Home
92: Community Forums
93: Community Forums
94: Community Forums
95: Community Forums
96: Community Forums
97: Community Forums
98: Community Forums
99: Community Forums
100: Community Forums
101: Downloads
102: Your Account
103: Community Forums
104: Community Forums
105: Community Forums
106: Community Forums
107: Community Forums
108: Community Forums
109: Community Forums
110: Community Forums
111: News Archive
112: Community Forums
113: Downloads
114: Photo Gallery
115: News
116: Community Forums
117: Community Forums
118: Community Forums
119: Community Forums
120: Community Forums
121: Community Forums
122: Community Forums
123: Photo Gallery
124: Home
125: Community Forums
126: Community Forums
127: Community Forums
128: News
129: Community Forums
130: Community Forums
131: Community Forums
132: Community Forums
133: Photo Gallery
134: Home
135: Community Forums
136: Community Forums
137: Community Forums
138: Photo Gallery
139: Community Forums
140: Home
141: Community Forums
142: Photo Gallery
143: Community Forums
144: Community Forums
145: Community Forums
146: Photo Gallery
147: Community Forums
148: Community Forums
149: Community Forums
150: Photo Gallery
151: Photo Gallery
152: Community Forums
153: Community Forums
154: Community Forums
155: Community Forums
156: Community Forums
157: Home
158: Community Forums
159: Your Account
160: Community Forums
161: Home
162: Community Forums
163: Community Forums
164: Community Forums
165: Community Forums
166: Community Forums
167: Community Forums
168: Community Forums
169: Home
170: Downloads
171: Community Forums
172: Community Forums
173: Community Forums
174: Photo Gallery
175: Photo Gallery
176: Community Forums
177: Community Forums
178: Community Forums
179: Home
180: Community Forums
181: Photo Gallery
182: Community Forums
183: Downloads
184: Community Forums
185: Community Forums
186: Community Forums
187: Home
188: Community Forums
189: Downloads
190: News
191: Community Forums
192: Community Forums
193: Community Forums
194: Community Forums
195: Community Forums
196: Community Forums
197: Home
198: Community Forums
199: Community Forums
200: Community Forums
201: Community Forums
202: Community Forums
203: Community Forums
204: Community Forums
205: Community Forums
206: CPGlang
207: Community Forums
208: Community Forums
209: Community Forums
210: Home
211: Downloads
212: Community Forums
213: Community Forums
214: Photo Gallery
215: Community Forums
216: Community Forums
217: Photo Gallery
218: Community Forums
219: Community Forums
220: Community Forums
221: Photo Gallery
222: Photo Gallery
223: Community Forums
224: Community Forums
225: Downloads
226: Home
227: Community Forums
228: Community Forums
229: Statistics
230: Community Forums
231: Community Forums
232: Photo Gallery
233: Member Screenshots
234: Community Forums
235: Community Forums
236: Community Forums
237: Community Forums
238: Home
239: Community Forums
240: Community Forums
241: Photo Gallery
242: Downloads
243: Photo Gallery
244: Home
245: Community Forums
246: Community Forums
247: Member Screenshots
248: Community Forums
249: Community Forums
250: Photo Gallery
251: Community Forums
252: Community Forums
253: News
254: Community Forums
255: Downloads
256: Community Forums
257: Community Forums
258: Member Screenshots
259: Community Forums
260: Downloads
261: Community Forums
262: Community Forums
263: Home
264: Downloads
265: Community Forums
266: Community Forums
267: Photo Gallery
268: Downloads
269: Community Forums
270: Community Forums
271: Community Forums
272: Your Account
273: Community Forums
274: Community Forums
275: Home
276: Community Forums
277: Community Forums
278: Community Forums
279: Photo Gallery
280: Photo Gallery
281: Community Forums
282: Community Forums
283: Home
284: Community Forums
285: Community Forums
286: Community Forums
287: Community Forums
288: Your Account

Staff Online:

No staff members are online!
T55 for Lesley
The AFV ASSOCIATION was formed in 1964 to support the thoughts and research of all those interested in Armored Fighting Vehicles and related topics, such as AFV drawings. The emphasis has always been on sharing information and communicating with other members of similar interests; e.g. German armor, Japanese AFVs, or whatever.
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page     Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board

View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
Joe_D
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 29, 2006
Posts: 2066
Location: Razorback Country
PostPosted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 8:02 pm
Post subject: T55 for Lesley

This has got to be the most stamped tank I've ever seen. Like to see someone duplicate this in a Model Laughing .

T55

Hull Stampings
1
2
3
4
5a
5b
6
7

Turret
a
b

_________________
Joe_D
Back to top
View user's profile Photo Gallery
C_Sherman
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 590

PostPosted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 12:56 am
Post subject: Re: T55 for Lesley

Joe,

Is that Davis-Monthan? When were (are?) you in AZ?

I'm in Washington right now, but I'd buy you a beverage if you are then when I get back next week...

Chuck

_________________
A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it
will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort.
-Herm Albright

Sic gorgiamus allos subjectatos nunc!
Back to top
View user's profile Photo Gallery
Joe_D
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 29, 2006
Posts: 2066
Location: Razorback Country
PostPosted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 3:23 am
Post subject: Re: T55 for Lesley

Appreciate the offer Chuck,

Yep, Davis-Monthan. Bone yard was quite interesting too, but a lot of the older birds are gone now Crying or Very sad . I'm home now, did a turn and burn to Tuscon, was only there 24 hours for my cousins' wedding. Would've stayed longer but had to be back to close on my new house. The old Crown Vic (PI model) was fun to run in the Desert between here and there, Especially through West Texas on I-10/and I-20. Still was too long of a drive.

_________________
Joe_D
Back to top
View user's profile Photo Gallery
tanker2010
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Aug 20, 2006
Posts: 264
Location: Kansas City, Mo.
PostPosted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 3:30 pm
Post subject: Re: T55 for Lesley

That's not a T55. It started out as a T54, then the IDF got a hold of it and converted it in to a Tiran 4. Main ID feature for a T54, the ventaltor on top of the turret. Also the so called "Z" weld on the front slope. ID features for a Tiran are the front fenders and the U.S. sstyle AMU. Almost all T54/55 OPFOR tanks the U.S. got were Tirans from the IDF.
Back to top
View user's profile Photo Gallery
Joe_D
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 29, 2006
Posts: 2066
Location: Razorback Country
PostPosted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 3:54 pm
Post subject: Re: T55 for Lesley

I figured someone would ID her properly,

Register had her as T54/55. Thanks.

_________________
Joe_D
Back to top
View user's profile Photo Gallery
L.Delsing
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Feb 10, 2006
Posts: 960

PostPosted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 7:55 pm
Post subject: Re: T55 for Lesley

Thanks!! Very nice pictures, seems to be a Czech built tank (MHY).

Any pictures of the T-72 over there?

Off topic, are there still F-106's at the bone yard left? Last time I was there they were converted to QF-106. Very beautiful aircraft

Regards,
Lesley
Back to top
View user's profile
Joe_D
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 29, 2006
Posts: 2066
Location: Razorback Country
PostPosted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 9:46 pm
Post subject: Re: T55 for Lesley

Lesley,

No sign of the T72, but I had a limited time there. All the F106's are gone, along with all the other interesting/older aircraft from what I saw Crying or Very sad , The F106 is one of my favorites, growing up we had them at the Air Base my Dad was stationed at. Oldest Fighters I seen were former Navy F4's along with some MiG 21 and 17's.

_________________
Joe_D
Back to top
View user's profile Photo Gallery
C_Sherman
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 590

PostPosted: Fri Oct 29, 2010 2:56 am
Post subject: Re: T55 for Lesley

- Joe_D
Lesley,

No sign of the T72, but I had a limited time there. All the F106's are gone, along with all the other interesting/older aircraft from what I saw Crying or Very sad , The F106 is one of my favorites, growing up we had them at the Air Base my Dad was stationed at. Oldest Fighters I seen were former Navy F4's along with some MiG 21 and 17's.


Hi,

I'll track down the T72 in the next week or two, after I get back to Tucson. I'm pretty sure I know where to look for it.

The older aircraft at D-M have slowly been dwindling for a number of years. They are victims of two different factors:

First, the mission of the boneyard became Aerospace Maintenance and Regeneration Command (AMARC) about 15 years back. The emphasis shifted from storage to salvage, repair, replacement and reconditioning of aircraft and parts. It was pretty obvious that the older aircraft weren't going to be returned to service, and the parts were pretty much obsolete. Once every MAP program country that used a particular model switched to a newer aircraft, there was simply no point in keeping them.

The second factor is that AMARC has a limited amount of space to absorb the reduction in active forces in the last 20 years. Most of the aircraft we use now are largely the same as they were during the Cold War, and a lot of MAP program nations use those airframes. So, it's not desirable to get rid of them. Since we also have more current aircraft than we can actually fly at one time, there is also a fleet rotation program that stores high-hour airframes and rotates lower-hour ones in the fleet. To make room for the new aircraft (which have parts and bits that can be reused, even if the entire aircraft will never fly again), the older aircraft had to go. Since they weren't worth much more that scrap, they went away.

If you want to see the old airplanes, visit the Pima Air Museum on Valencia Rd. They got first swipe at pretty much anything that D-M was getting rid of, so they have examples of most of them including some pretty unique stuff. The AF Museum still steals stuff they decide they want, but there are lots of cool aircraft still at Pima.

Chuck

_________________
A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it
will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort.
-Herm Albright

Sic gorgiamus allos subjectatos nunc!
Back to top
View user's profile Photo Gallery
L.Delsing
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Feb 10, 2006
Posts: 960

PostPosted: Sat Oct 30, 2010 7:00 pm
Post subject: Re: T55 for Lesley

Thanks in advance!
Back to top
View user's profile
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page    Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board
Page 1 of 1
All times are GMT - 6 Hours



Jump to:  


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You cannot download files in this forum