±Recent Visitors

Recent Visitors to Com-Central!

±User Info-big


Welcome Anonymous

Nickname
Password

Membership:
Latest: HighestAce
New Today: 0
New Yesterday: 0
Overall: 6648

People Online:
Members: 0
Visitors: 276
Total: 276
Who Is Where:
 Visitors:
01: Community Forums
02: Home
03: Community Forums
04: Home
05: Home
06: Home
07: Community Forums
08: Community Forums
09: Home
10: Home
11: Home
12: Community Forums
13: Home
14: Community Forums
15: Your Account
16: Community Forums
17: Community Forums
18: Home
19: Home
20: Home
21: Home
22: Community Forums
23: Community Forums
24: News Archive
25: Community Forums
26: Photo Gallery
27: Community Forums
28: Community Forums
29: Home
30: Home
31: Home
32: Community Forums
33: Member Screenshots
34: Community Forums
35: News
36: Search
37: Home
38: Home
39: Home
40: Community Forums
41: Community Forums
42: Community Forums
43: Home
44: Home
45: Community Forums
46: Downloads
47: Home
48: Home
49: Home
50: Photo Gallery
51: Downloads
52: Community Forums
53: Community Forums
54: Community Forums
55: Home
56: Home
57: Community Forums
58: Home
59: Photo Gallery
60: Home
61: Home
62: Photo Gallery
63: Community Forums
64: Member Screenshots
65: Your Account
66: Home
67: Photo Gallery
68: Home
69: Photo Gallery
70: Community Forums
71: Community Forums
72: Community Forums
73: Community Forums
74: Home
75: Community Forums
76: Home
77: Home
78: Photo Gallery
79: Home
80: Downloads
81: Downloads
82: Photo Gallery
83: Community Forums
84: Home
85: Home
86: Member Screenshots
87: Community Forums
88: Home
89: Community Forums
90: Community Forums
91: Photo Gallery
92: Photo Gallery
93: Member Screenshots
94: Photo Gallery
95: Home
96: Home
97: Photo Gallery
98: Home
99: Community Forums
100: Community Forums
101: Home
102: Home
103: Community Forums
104: Your Account
105: Community Forums
106: Photo Gallery
107: Home
108: Member Screenshots
109: Community Forums
110: Statistics
111: Photo Gallery
112: Community Forums
113: Community Forums
114: Community Forums
115: Community Forums
116: Photo Gallery
117: Downloads
118: Community Forums
119: Member Screenshots
120: Home
121: Photo Gallery
122: Community Forums
123: Home
124: Downloads
125: Home
126: Community Forums
127: Home
128: Home
129: Photo Gallery
130: Home
131: Community Forums
132: Community Forums
133: Community Forums
134: Home
135: Community Forums
136: Community Forums
137: Community Forums
138: Home
139: Home
140: Home
141: Home
142: Home
143: Home
144: Member Screenshots
145: Community Forums
146: Photo Gallery
147: Community Forums
148: Home
149: Community Forums
150: Home
151: Community Forums
152: Home
153: Home
154: Community Forums
155: Community Forums
156: Home
157: Home
158: Statistics
159: Home
160: Community Forums
161: News
162: Home
163: Photo Gallery
164: Home
165: Home
166: Home
167: Member Screenshots
168: Home
169: Community Forums
170: Home
171: Statistics
172: Home
173: Community Forums
174: Home
175: Photo Gallery
176: Community Forums
177: Downloads
178: Home
179: Home
180: Community Forums
181: Community Forums
182: Community Forums
183: Community Forums
184: Community Forums
185: Tell a Friend
186: Home
187: Home
188: Downloads
189: Community Forums
190: Photo Gallery
191: Photo Gallery
192: Home
193: Community Forums
194: Home
195: Home
196: Home
197: Photo Gallery
198: Member Screenshots
199: Community Forums
200: Community Forums
201: Photo Gallery
202: Community Forums
203: Home
204: Home
205: News
206: Photo Gallery
207: Home
208: Community Forums
209: Photo Gallery
210: Home
211: Home
212: Home
213: Community Forums
214: Home
215: News Archive
216: Home
217: Community Forums
218: Home
219: Community Forums
220: Community Forums
221: Community Forums
222: Community Forums
223: Community Forums
224: Home
225: Home
226: Community Forums
227: Community Forums
228: Community Forums
229: Downloads
230: Home
231: Member Screenshots
232: Home
233: Photo Gallery
234: Downloads
235: Community Forums
236: Home
237: News
238: Community Forums
239: Community Forums
240: Community Forums
241: Photo Gallery
242: Community Forums
243: Home
244: Home
245: Home
246: Community Forums
247: Community Forums
248: Community Forums
249: Home
250: Community Forums
251: Community Forums
252: Community Forums
253: Community Forums
254: Member Screenshots
255: Home
256: Photo Gallery
257: Statistics
258: Community Forums
259: Photo Gallery
260: Member Screenshots
261: Home
262: Home
263: Community Forums
264: Community Forums
265: Community Forums
266: Community Forums
267: Home
268: Photo Gallery
269: Community Forums
270: Home
271: Home
272: Community Forums
273: Community Forums
274: Home
275: Community Forums
276: News

Staff Online:

No staff members are online!
Preserved Tanks in Germany
The AFV ASSOCIATION was formed in 1964 to support the thoughts and research of all those interested in Armored Fighting Vehicles and related topics, such as AFV drawings. The emphasis has always been on sharing information and communicating with other members of similar interests; e.g. German armor, Japanese AFVs, or whatever.
Go to page 1, 2  Next
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page     Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board

View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
TrevorLarkum
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Sep 16, 2007
Posts: 1596
Location: Northampton, England
PostPosted: Sun May 01, 2011 10:18 am
Post subject: Preserved Tanks in Germany

I am currently 'officially' working on writing up the German tanks at Bovington, and then I'll return to writing up Fort Knox. However, as is often the way, things take a detour. To complete the write-ups of the Porsche King Tiger and Jagdtiger, which were found at Haustenbeck, I wrote up the Sennelager Training Area. That led to me writing up Sennelager and Augustdorf. From there it was a small step to Vilseck, and from there to Erlangen since they were both previous locations for Cobra King (which, ironically, is at Fort Knox anyway - things often seem to come full circle that way).

Anyway, I'll post here what I've done for those interested (mostly military bases). Hopefully at a later date I can return to write up the major museums and collections in more detail.

Here are the main links into the database:

Preserved Tanks in Germany

Tank Factories and Facilities in Germany

All Tank Related Locations in Germany

_________________
Trevor

Dr Trevor Larkum
Preserved Tanks: PreservedTanks.com
Armour Archive: ArmourArchive.co.uk
EVs
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website
TrevorLarkum
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Sep 16, 2007
Posts: 1596
Location: Northampton, England
PostPosted: Sun May 01, 2011 10:21 am
Post subject: Re: Preserved Tanks in Germany

Here are the specific places I've written up recently - generally they are short on photographs so I'd appreciate it if anyone has some they could provide (as usual clicking through to a tank's profile page will give details of source information):

Sennelager Training Area (British/German)




26 miscellaneous AFVs


Normandy Barracks, Sennelager (British)



Centurion and Chieftain


Dempsey Barracks, Sennelager (British)



Tracked Rapier


Generalfeldmarschall-Rommel-Kaserne, Augustdorf (German)



Jaguar, Leopard, GVT, M7B2, M47

_________________
Trevor

Dr Trevor Larkum
Preserved Tanks: PreservedTanks.com
Armour Archive: ArmourArchive.co.uk
EVs


Last edited by TrevorLarkum on Sun May 01, 2011 10:39 am; edited 1 time in total
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website
TrevorLarkum
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Sep 16, 2007
Posts: 1596
Location: Northampton, England
PostPosted: Sun May 01, 2011 10:38 am
Post subject: Re: Preserved Tanks in Germany

Rose Barracks, Vilseck (US)



M4A1E8


Ferris Barracks, Erlangen (US)



Previous location for Rose M4A1E8 and Cobra King

_________________
Trevor

Dr Trevor Larkum
Preserved Tanks: PreservedTanks.com
Armour Archive: ArmourArchive.co.uk
EVs
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website
TrevorLarkum
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Sep 16, 2007
Posts: 1596
Location: Northampton, England
PostPosted: Sun May 01, 2011 4:31 pm
Post subject: Re: Preserved Tanks in Germany

Just finished:

Lager Hammelberg (German/US)



Jaguar x4, M48A2 x2, M48 AVLB x2, ZSU23-4, T-34-85 x2, T-72, M4A3, Sexton


It was news to me that a possible survivor of Task Force Baum still exists - I'm surprised it hasn't received much media attention, like Cobra King.

_________________
Trevor

Dr Trevor Larkum
Preserved Tanks: PreservedTanks.com
Armour Archive: ArmourArchive.co.uk
EVs
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website
C_Sherman
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 590

PostPosted: Sun May 01, 2011 7:44 pm
Post subject: Re: Preserved Tanks in Germany

- TrevorLarkum


Trevor,

Are you planning to capture the vehicles displayed at Grafenwoehr and Hohenfels? I recall quite a collection at Graf, and Hohenfels had one or two, IIRC.

I'll look on my HD for pics of the Graf vehicles, but I lost a bunch of them in a magnet vs. HD incident a couple of years ago. I'll see what what was recovered if you need them to get you started.

Chuck

_________________
A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it
will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort.
-Herm Albright

Sic gorgiamus allos subjectatos nunc!
Back to top
View user's profile Photo Gallery
Doug_Kibbey
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 23, 2006
Posts: 4678
Location: The Great Satan
PostPosted: Sun May 01, 2011 7:56 pm
Post subject: Re: Preserved Tanks in Germany

- TrevorLarkum


Hey! Check it out...M60A2's on the firing line! They must have upgraded the ammo containers for 152mm ammo from the '60's-early '70's, those just came in the standard packing within a wooden ammo crate. These are fancy and look a lot like artillery powder tubes or something. Maybe a few too many accidents with the original "packaging".

Is there a history of a "stray" round going through the range tower there? It sure looks like somebody had one get loose on them....
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website Photo Gallery
L.Delsing
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Feb 10, 2006
Posts: 960

PostPosted: Sat May 21, 2011 7:53 am
Post subject: Re: Preserved Tanks in Germany

Visited Bergen training area last week and Centurion r/n 42BA67) was not at the gate anymore.

Also it seems they cleaned range 9 at Bergen.

The T-72M early s/n MHYT12ZNH was gone and also a lot of M48's and other T-72s further north east

The HS30 lang at the gate of Lager Horsten was still there
Back to top
View user's profile
Dontos
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 3436
Location: Vine Grove, KY
PostPosted: Sat May 21, 2011 9:52 am
Post subject: Re: Preserved Tanks in Germany

Leslie
Range 9 had quite a few M47s back when I was last there. I actually spent some time 'range walking' and checking out the target array. I actually found some old aerial 'recon' photos taken of Range 9 taken from a helicopter in late 1988.

Doug
The Graf photo is one I found in archives relating to the deployment of the M60A2 to Germany. As I recall, its a shot of the first M60A2 gunnery in Germany.

Regards
Don
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Visit poster's website AIM Address Yahoo Messenger Photo Gallery
Geoff_walden
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 26, 2006
Posts: 133

PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 12:40 am
Post subject: Re: Preserved Tanks in Germany

Anybody know what unit this was, with the A2s? Could it be 3/33 Armor (Pickles) from The Rock (1st Bde, 3AD)?
Back to top
View user's profile
TrevorLarkum
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Sep 16, 2007
Posts: 1596
Location: Northampton, England
PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 8:11 am
Post subject: Re: Preserved Tanks in Germany

- C_Sherman

Trevor,

Are you planning to capture the vehicles displayed at Grafenwoehr and Hohenfels? I recall quite a collection at Graf, and Hohenfels had one or two, IIRC.

I'll look on my HD for pics of the Graf vehicles, but I lost a bunch of them in a magnet vs. HD incident a couple of years ago. I'll see what what was recovered if you need them to get you started.

Chuck


I will do Grafenwoehr and Hohenfels too at some point, so any pictures you can provide would be appreciated.


- L.Delsing
Visited Bergen training area last week and Centurion r/n 42BA67) was not at the gate anymore.

Also it seems they cleaned range 9 at Bergen.

The T-72M early s/n MHYT12ZNH was gone and also a lot of M48's and other T-72s further north east

The HS30 lang at the gate of Lager Horsten was still there


I'll be writing up Bergen-Hohne too so I'll catch up with you then on the changes. I have photo's myself from 1991.

_________________
Trevor

Dr Trevor Larkum
Preserved Tanks: PreservedTanks.com
Armour Archive: ArmourArchive.co.uk
EVs
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website
Dontos
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 3436
Location: Vine Grove, KY
PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 10:58 am
Post subject: Re: Preserved Tanks in Germany

- TrevorLarkum
Just finished:

Lager Hammelberg (German/US)

It was news to me that a possible survivor of Task Force Baum still exists - I'm surprised it hasn't received much media attention, like Cobra King.


Trevor

Walter Wrolson was a tank platoon leader with C Co 37th Tank Bn. During the Bastogne Break Thru, his tank an M4A3(75), named 'Casey Jones', was second in line, directly behind 'Cobra King'.

In March 45, Lt Wrolson was acting as the Maint Officer and participated with Task Force Baum. He was taken POW on 28 March 45.

On May 4 2011, at the age of 91, Lt Walter Wrolson passed away. I'm not sure how many survivors of the RAID are still alive but sadly the ranks are growing thinner by the day.

Regards
Don
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Visit poster's website AIM Address Yahoo Messenger Photo Gallery
toadmanstankpictures
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 704

PostPosted: Fri Jun 03, 2011 9:00 pm
Post subject: Re: Preserved Tanks in Germany

- Dontos
- TrevorLarkum
Just finished:

Lager Hammelberg (German/US)

It was news to me that a possible survivor of Task Force Baum still exists - I'm surprised it hasn't received much media attention, like Cobra King.


Trevor

Walter Wrolson was a tank platoon leader with C Co 37th Tank Bn. During the Bastogne Break Thru, his tank an M4A3(75), named 'Casey Jones', was second in line, directly behind 'Cobra King'.

In March 45, Lt Wrolson was acting as the Maint Officer and participated with Task Force Baum. He was taken POW on 28 March 45.

On May 4 2011, at the age of 91, Lt Walter Wrolson passed away. I'm not sure how many survivors of the RAID are still alive but sadly the ranks are growing thinner by the day.

Regards
Don


AFAIK, Abe Baum is still alive and lives in the San Diego area. This was as of late April 2011.

_________________
Chris "toadman" Hughes
www.toadmanstankpictures.com
www.cafepress.com/toad...ksandstuff
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website
Michel_Krauss
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Oct 30, 2009
Posts: 953
Location: Zuid-Holland, The Netherlands
PostPosted: Fri May 29, 2015 5:11 pm
Post subject: Re: Preserved Tanks in Germany

A couple of weeks ago I made a motorbike trip in Germany and we crossed the former Iron Curtain border that divided West and East Germany

We made a short stop near a museum, located inside one of the old East-German border patrol stations
I was not abel to make a visit around the musuem, however they have some AFV's standing around







serial number

_________________
I'm Not Crazy, I'm Just Not You
Back to top
View user's profile
Michel_Krauss
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Oct 30, 2009
Posts: 953
Location: Zuid-Holland, The Netherlands
PostPosted: Fri May 29, 2015 5:13 pm
Post subject: Re: Preserved Tanks in Germany





To the side there looks something like a M41 tank

_________________
I'm Not Crazy, I'm Just Not You
Back to top
View user's profile
L.Delsing
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Feb 10, 2006
Posts: 960

PostPosted: Fri Dec 04, 2015 4:58 am
Post subject: Re: Preserved Tanks in Germany

Munster-Sud training area, taken in February 2004.



Bergen training area, range 7B, June 2003


Bergen training area, range 7B, June 2003. T-72 #F01VT3689
Back to top
View user's profile
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page    Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board
Page 1 of 2
All times are GMT - 6 Hours
Go to page 1, 2  Next



Jump to:  


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You cannot download files in this forum