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Shawn: Some unconfirmed AFVs in Michigan
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PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2009 1:40 pm
Post subject: Shawn: Some unconfirmed AFVs in Michigan

I was just finishing my edit/update of the Michigan section for the AFV Register. Found/confirmed a few, particularly with Google Maps Streetview, etc. But here's a few still unconfirmed in case you happen to have any info:

AKRON
VFW Post 7486, 4734 Dutcher Rd
M114A1 USA out? SN 265; Unconfirmed

AU GRES
VFW Post 8275, 3651 E Huron Rd
M60A3 USA out? AAD rebuild SN 4313A; Unconfirmed

BATH
American Legion Post 412, 5480 Clark Rd
M114 USA out? Unconfirmed

BRIGHTON
VFW Post 1224, 8891 Spicer Rd
M59 USA out? RN 126558; Unconfirmed

CAMP GRAYLING
Gate Guard
M60 USA out May have been removed

CARSON CITY
American Legion Post 222, 121 N Mercantile
M60A3 USA out AAD rebuild SN 4350A; Unconfirmed

CASPIAN
M60A3 USA out? AAD rebuild SN 3323A; Unconfirmed

CLIMAX
American Legion Post 465, 6101 S 44th St
M60A3 USA out? AAD rebuild SN 1890A; Unconfirmed

DECATUR
VFW Post 6248, 560 N Phelps St
M60A3 USA out? AAD rebuild SN 4399A; Unconfirmed
M84 USA out? Unconfirmed

EDWARDSBURG
VFW Post 2284, 69946 M 62
M60 USA out? SN 790; Unconfirmed

ELSIE
American Legion Post 502, 220 S Ovid St
M60 USA out? Unconfirmed

FERNDALE
M114A2 USA out? RN? 11578210; Unconfirmed

HEMLOCK
VFW Post 7302, 17595 M46 Rd (N43 24.785 W84 15.612)
M114A2 USA out? SN 6856; Unconfirmed

HESPERIA
American Legion Post 411, 4085 S 198th Ave
M60 USA out? SN 1394; Unconfirmed

HOLTON
American Legion Post 397, 9150 Holton Rd
M60 USA out? SN 1670; Unconfirmed

KENT CITY
American Legion Post 123, 14111 Ball Creek Rd
M60A3 USA out? AAD rebuild SN 4367A; Unconfirmed

KINGSTON
VFW Post 5317, 3719 Ross St
M60A3 USA out? SN 6200; Unconfirmed
M113A1E1 USA out? SN MSJ8721 -S; Unconfirmed
M113A2 USA out? SN? 80212,RN? 4189993; Unconfirmed

LUDINGTON
American Legion Post 76, 318 N James St
M60A3 USA out? SN 651; Unconfirmed

LUZERNE
American Legion Post 162, 3590 Legion Dr
M48A5 Patton USA out? SN 3016; Unconfirmed

MARCELLUS
VFW Post 4054, 53550 M 40 (W Duncan Ave)
M56 Scorpion USA out? RN 7309603; Unconfirmed

MESICK
American Veterans Post 120, 3669 N 9th Rd
M60 USA out? SN 963; Unconfirmed

MUSKEGON
VFW Post 8846, 1061 Witham Rd
M60 USA out? SN 1493; Unconfirmed

VFW Post 7729, 6285 E Apple Ave
M60 USA out? SN 2007; Unconfirmed

NEW LOTHROP
VFW Post 6579, 8235 S Saginaw St
M551 Sheridan USA out? RN? 13E772; Unconfirmed

NEW HAVEN
American Veterans Post 72, 57581 AMVET Drive
M42A1 Duster USA out? SN 2197; Unconfirmed

ONONDAGA
VFW Post 6986, 5373 Gale Rd
M60A3 USA out? AAD rebuild SN 4408A; Unconfirmed

PELLSTON
M114 USA out? Unconfirmed

SIX LAKES
VFW Post 5602, 2195 W Fleck Rd
M60 USA out? SN 156; Unconfirmed

THREE RIVERS
M42A1 Duster USA out? SN 1897; Unconfirmed

VICKSBURG
M60 USA out? SN 1963; Unconfirmed

WHITE PINE
American Legion Post 462, 62 Hemlock St
M60A1 USA out SN 1702; Unconfirmed

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PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2009 11:18 pm
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"DECATUR
VFW Post 6248, 560 N Phelps St
M60A3 USA out? AAD rebuild SN 4399A; Unconfirmed
M84 USA out? Unconfirmed "

Kuwaiti M84 or US M48?
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PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2009 11:31 pm
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Neither. US M84 - the self propelled mortar based on the M59 APC.

A Yugoslav M84 tank would be M84 YUG, or M84 YUG/KWT for an ex Kuwaiti one...

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PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2009 2:00 am
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For some years an M60A3 has stood sentry at the VFW Post in Ypsilanti; I'll try to take pics and get its SN soon.
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PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2009 3:00 am
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Yep, I got the one in Ypsilanti - could probably use a better pic though...



www.flickr.com/photos/...221337637/

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PostPosted: Wed May 13, 2009 4:26 am
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Hello Neil, Shawn here, do you happen to know my last name? You have a Shawn Ferguson credited in the register footnotes...

I will be happy to check on anything that I can. I will be out and about and will try to check on those in my vicinity... I will try to confirm those on this list. I dont recall any M114A2 ever being in Ferndale, how did you come across this? Did it list where it might have been?

I need to check the new updated register... what is the newest one anyway... I didnt see the Estral Beach M4A3 (hopefully to be reconfirmed by the end of this week) or the Berville VFW Post 203 M60A3 on the 2008 list...

I havent been to the Camp Grayling gate in a few, I thought the M60 had been moved, but I dont know for sure.
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PostPosted: Thu May 14, 2009 11:34 am
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Hey Neil,
I was going over the register and noticed that the Estral Beach Sherman is listed under the town of Newport... which is in that locale, but the Village of Estral Beach is a specific location and a different town/village, with a good 4-5 miles seperating the 2, at least, plus all the marshes and leveys in between. If someone is looking for that tank they wont find it in Newport.
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PostPosted: Thu May 14, 2009 2:57 pm
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Does the one in 'Climax' still shoot? Mr. Green

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PostPosted: Sat May 16, 2009 12:44 am
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- SHAWN
Hello Neil, Shawn here, do you happen to know my last name? You have a Shawn Ferguson credited in the register footnotes...


Umm... Is that not your last name? I do have a Shawn Ferguson who provided a lot info back in 2006... I thought that was you, which is why I asked... Did we used to have another poster named Shawn Ferguson, in Michigan, back in 2006?...


I will be happy to check on anything that I can. I will be out and about and will try to check on those in my vicinity... I will try to confirm those on this list. I dont recall any M114A2 ever being in Ferndale, how did you come across this? Did it list where it might have been?



Ferndale is identified by the TACOM Central Registry, like most of the unconfirmed listings...



I need to check the new updated register... what is the newest one anyway... I didnt see the Estral Beach M4A3 (hopefully to be reconfirmed by the end of this week) or the Berville VFW Post 203 M60A3 on the 2008 list...



I wasnt aware of the Berville tank...

Here's the complete Michigan section so far - ignore the footnotes numbering...

AKRON
VFW Post 7486, 4734 Dutcher Rd
M114A1 USA out? SN 265; Unconfirmed 1


ALLEGAN
American Legion Post 89, 632 Eastern Ave
M60A3 USA out AAD rebuild SN 4416A 2


ALLENDALE
Engine House #5 Museum, 6620 Lake Michigan Dr 3
M60A0 USA out
M60A0 USA out


ALLENTON
VFW Post 203, 13989 Hough Rd
M60A3 USA out AAD rebuild SN 4369A 4


ANN ARBOR
American Legion Post 423, 3230 S Wagner Rd
M60A3 USA out AAD rebuild SN 4389A, RN 9B8985 5


ARMADA
AMVETS Post 93, 75185 North Ave (N42 51.127 W82 53.130)
M48 Patton w/ XM66 D turret USA out Formerly at TACOM Warren, MI 6


AU GRES
VFW Post 8275, 3651 E Huron Rd
M60A3 USA out? AAD rebuild SN 4313A; Unconfirmed 7


AUGUSTA
Fort Custer, 2501 26th St
M48 Patton USA out? Formerly in Detroit 8





BALDWIN
VFW Post 5315, M-37
M41A3 Walker Bulldog USA out SN 97 9


BARODA
American Legion Post 345, 9214 1st St
M114 USA out RN 12T455


BATH
American Legion Post 412, 5480 Clark Rd
M114 USA out? Unconfirmed 10


BIRCH RUN
VFW Post 7542, 11325 Dixie Hwy (N43 15.580 W83 46.564)
M60A3 USA out SN 5? 11


BRIGHTON
VFW Post 1224, 8891 Spicer Rd
M59 USA out? RN 126558; Unconfirmed 12


BURTON
VFW Post 2777, 2260 S Belsay Rd
M60A3 USA out? AAD rebuild SN 4327A 13


CADILLAC
A/1-126 Cavalry, Michigan ARNG Armory, 415 Haynes St
M60A1/A3 USA out


CALEDONIA
American Legion Post 305, 9548 Cherry Valley Ave SE (N42 47.415 W85 30.391)
M60A0 USA out SN 2004 14














CAMP GRAYLING 15
Gate Guard
M60 USA out May have been removed

Maneuver Area Training Equipment Site (MATES)
M47 Patton USA out
M60 USA out
M114 USA out

Range
T95E8 Medium Tank USA wre Fitted with variable height susp. 16


CARLETON
VFW Post 4093, 700 Carleton Rockwood Rd (N42 03.861 W83 21.998)
M37 Priest USA out 17


CARSON CITY
American Legion Post 222, 121 N Mercantile
M60A3 USA out AAD rebuild SN 4350A; Unconfirmed 18


CASPIAN
M60A3 USA out? AAD rebuild SN 3323A; Unconfirmed 19


CLIMAX
American Legion Post 465, 6101 S 44th St
M60A3 USA out? AAD rebuild SN 1890A; Unconfirmed 20


CONSTANTINE
American Legion Post 233, 65079 US-131 N
M60A3 USA out? AAD rebuild SN 3043A 21


CORUNNA
VFW Post 4005, 416 S Shiawassee St
M60A3 USA out AAD rebuild SN 4331A 22


CUSTER
VFW?, 2022 E State St
M4(105) Sherman USA out? Identified c1973 23




DAVISON
M7B1 Priest USA out 24


DECATUR
VFW Post 6248, 560 N Phelps St 25
M60A0 USA out SN 33
M60A3 USA out? AAD rebuild SN 4399A; Unconfirmed
M84 USA out? Unconfirmed


DETROIT
Fort Wayne 26
M4(105) Sherman composite USA out M4(105) pilot 27
M19A1 USA out
M114 USA out


DORR
American Legion Post 127, 4310 18th St (N42 43.953 W85 43.364)
M60A3 USA out? AAD rebuild SN 1984A 28


DOWAGIAC
C/1-126 Cavalry, Michigan ARNG Armory, 700 W Prairie Ronde St (N41 59.471 W86 7.046)
M103 USA out


EDWARDSBURG
VFW Post 2284, 69946 M 62
M60 USA out? SN 790; Unconfirmed 29


ELLSWORTH
American Legion Post 488
M4(75) Sherman USA out


ELSIE
American Legion Post 502, 220 S Ovid St
M60 USA out? Unconfirmed 30


ESTRAL BEACH
Estral Beach Village Hall and Fire Dept, 7151 Lakeview
M4A3(75) Sherman USA out SN 11762 31




FERNDALE
M114A2 USA out? RN? 11578210; Unconfirmed 32


FLINT
Alfred P. Sloan Museum, 1221 E Kearsley St (N43 1.449 W83 40.618)
M18 Hellcat USA out

VFW Post 8236 Hall, 4008 W Coldwater Rd (N43 5.419 W83 45.291)
M60A3 USA out AAD rebuild SN 4319A 33


FLUSHING
Intersection of W Coldwater Rd and N Linden St
M60A3 USA out 34


FRANKENMUTH
Michigan’s own Military and Space Museum, 1250 Weiss Street (N43 19.085 W83 44.126)
M60A3 USA out AAD rebuild SN 4405A 35


GERMFASK
War Memorial
M47 Patton USA out


GRAND RAPIDS
John Bull Park, 1300 Fulton St W
M5 Stuart USA out? Identified c1973 36


GRANDVILLE
American Legion Post 179, 2327 Wilson Ave SW (N42 55.377 W85 46.399)
M4A3(75) Sherman USA out 37


GRAYLING
American Legion Post 106, 106 S. James St (N44 39.539 W84 42.714)
M4A3(75) Sherman USA out SN 12489 38
M60A0 USA out SN 1342 39


HEMLOCK
VFW Post 7302, 17595 M46 Rd (N43 24.785 W84 15.612)
M60A0 USA out SN 212 40
M114A2 USA out? SN 6856; Unconfirmed 41


HERMANSVILLE
Vietnam Veterans Museum, N16462 Linden St
M60A3 USA out AAD rebuild SN 4309A 42


HESPERIA
American Legion Post 411, 4085 S 198th Ave
M60 USA out? SN 1394; Unconfirmed 43


HOLLAND
American Legion Post 6, 10820 Paw Paw Dr (N42 48.071 W86 03.001)
M60A0 USA out


HOLLY
Private owner
M2 Half-Track USA std “Tinman;” SN 252


HOLTON
American Legion Post 397, 9150 Holton Rd
M60 USA out? SN 1670; Unconfirmed 44


HOUGHTON LAKE
VFW Post 4034, 935 S Loxley Rd
M60A3 USA out AAD rebuild SN 4338A 45


JACKSON
American Legion Post 29, 3200 Lansing Ave
M60A3 USA out AAD rebuild SN 4387A 46


KENT CITY
American Legion Post 123, 14111 Ball Creek Rd
M60A3 USA out? AAD rebuild SN 4367A; Unconfirmed 47


KINGSTON
VFW Post 5317, 3719 Ross St 48
M60A3 USA out? SN 6200; Unconfirmed
M113A1E1 USA out? SN MSJ8721 -S; Unconfirmed
M113A2 USA out? SN? 80212,RN? 4189993; Unconfirmed


LUDINGTON
American Legion Post 76, 318 N James St
M60A3 USA out? SN 651; Unconfirmed 49

LUZERNE
American Legion Post 162, 3590 Legion Dr
M48A5 Patton USA out? SN 3016; Unconfirmed 50


MANCELONA
American Legion Post 264, 6501 Cedar River Rd
M4A3(75) Sherman USA out


MANCHESTER
American Legion Post 117, 203 Adrian St (N42 8.933 W84 2.227)
M60A0 USA out SN 457 51


MARCELLUS
VFW Post 4054, 53550 M 40 (W Duncan Ave)
M56 Scorpion USA out? RN 7309603; Unconfirmed 52
M60A0 USA out SN 1663 53


MESICK
American Veterans Post 120, 3669 N 9th Rd
M60 USA out? SN 963; Unconfirmed 54


MILFORD
VFW Post 216, 510 W Commerce Rd
M60A0 USA out SN 732 55


MONTAGUE
VFW Post 3256, 9370 Walsh Rd
M60A0 USA out SN 1537 56


MONROE
VFW Post 4361, 2640 Blazer Rd
M55 USA out 57


MOUNT MORRIS
Private Owner (Logan Werth)
M54 Guntruck replica USA std “Uncle Meat”







MUSKEGON
VFW Post 446, 165 S Getty St
M48 Patton USA out RN 9A4120 58

VFW Post 8846, 1061 Witham Rd
M60 USA out? SN 1493; Unconfirmed 59

VFW Post 7729, 6285 E Apple Ave
M60 USA out? SN 2007; Unconfirmed 60


NASHVILLE
VFW Post 8260, 304 S State St (N42 36.036 W85 5.573)
M55 USA out? SN? 184, RN? HT2234 61


NEW LOTHROP
VFW Post 6579, 8235 S Saginaw St
M551 Sheridan USA out? RN? 13E772; Unconfirmed 62


NEW HAVEN
American Veterans Post 72, 57581 AMVET Drive
M42A1 Duster USA out? SN 2197; Unconfirmed 63


NEW TROY
American Legion Post 518, 4789 Weechik Rd
M60A0 USA out SN 1877 64


NILES
American Legion Post 26, 1707 Miller Dr (N41 49.210 W86 14.064)
M114 USA out? SN 296 65


ONONDAGA
VFW Post 6986, 5373 Gale Rd
M60A3 USA out? AAD rebuild SN 4408A; Unconfirmed 66

Junkyard
M3 Half-Track chassis USA wre
M5A1 Half-Track chassis USA wre
M16A1 GMC USA wre
M16A2 GMC USA wre





OTSEGO
Otsego Memorial Park, Dix St & S Farmer St (N42 27.183 W85 41.940)
M60A3 USA out AAD rebuild SN 4414A 67


PELLSTON
M114 USA out? Unconfirmed 68


PENTWATER
VFW Post 6017, 8440 N US-31
M60A0 USA out SN 246 69


PERRY
VFW Post 4005, 2493 W Britton Rd
M60A3 USA out 70


PONTIAC
761st Tank Battalion and Allied Veterans Association
M60A3 USA out


PORT HURON
A/1-119 Field Artillery, Michigan ARNG Armory, 2525 Dove St (N42 57.128 W82 27.233)
M59 USA out 71


PORTAGE
VFW Red Arrow Post 1527, 1920 E Kilgore Service Rd (N42 14.688 W85 33.322)
M60A0 USA out SN 1093 72


PORTLAND
VFW Post 4090, 1324 E Bridge St
M114 USA out SN 583 73


RIVER ROUGE
Memorial Park, 11051 W Jefferson Ave (N42 15.988 W83 08.155)
M60A3 USA out AAD rebuild SN 4415A 74









SAGINAW
VFW Post 7542, 2995 Wicklow Rd
M60A1/A3 USA out

Private owner
BTR-60 SOV std
Ferret Mk 1 GBR/CAN std
Ferret Mk ? GBR/ISR std
M3 Stuart USA std
M5 High-Speed Tractor USA std
T16 Universal Carrier USA std
T17 Staghound USA std One of five Staghounds in the US


SAINT HELEN
American Legion Post 416, 10062 Ford Dr, near the M76 and F97 split
M47 Patton USA out


SAINT LOUIS
VFW Post 3055, 1295 W Monroe Rd
M60A0 USA out SN 1511 75

Private owner
M5A1 Stuart USA std


SAULT STE MARIE
Lake Superior State University, Ryan Ave (N46 29.553 W84 21.551)
M60A3 USA out AAD rebuild SN 2802A 76


SELFRIDGE ANG BASE
Selfridge Military Air Museum, 27333 C Street, Bldg 1011
M113A2 USA out RN 12FB33; on loan from TACOM
Wiesel 1 DEU out SN US0003


SHELBY
VFW Post 9441, 122 Ferry St
M60A0 USA out SN 965 77


SHERIDAN
VFW Post 5065, 209 Washington St
M60A0 USA out SN 1630 78


SIX LAKES
VFW Post 5602, 2195 W Fleck Rd
M60 USA out? SN 156; Unconfirmed 79


SOUTH BOARDMAN
VFW Post 4087, 9474 Lapeer Rd
M4A3(75) Sherman USA out 80


SOUTH HAVEN
Michigan ARNG Armory, 500 Aylworth Ave (N42 23.305 W86 16.409)
M60A3 USA out


STANDISH
VFW Post 3724, 3580 W Huron Rd
M60A3 USA out AAD rebuild SN 4339A 81


STERLING HEIGHTS
Macomb Cty Vietnam Veterans Memorial, Freedom Hill County Park, 15000 Metropolitan Pkwy (N42 33.947 W82 58.682)
M60A0 USA out SN 17, RN9B3120 82


SWARTZ CREEK
VFW Post 3720, 3131 South Elms Rd
M47 Patton USA out SN 5401 83
M60A3 USA out 84


TEMPERANCE
American Legion Post 192, 620 W Temperance Rd (N41 46.769 W83 33.903)
M60A0 USA out SN 1315 85


THREE RIVERS
M42A1 Duster USA out? SN 1897; Unconfirmed 86


TRAVERSE CITY
VFW Post 2780, 3400 Veterans Dr
M60A0 USA out SN 608 87


VICKSBURG
M60 USA out? SN 1963; Unconfirmed 88





WARREN
US Army Tank-automotive and Armaments Command (TACOM), 6501 E 11 Mile Rd 89
M1 Abrams USA out Front Lawn
M2?A3 Bradley USA out Front Lawn
M110 USA out Front Lawn
T30 Heavy Tank USA out Inside the Main Gate 90
T93 SPG USA out One of two built; Inside the Main Gate
XM1 Abrams USA std? PV4, has original Chrysler XM1 turret
XM1 Abrams USA std?
XM808 Twister USA out One of two built; Inside the Back Gate
XM1060 ROBAT? USA std? Current status unconfirmed


WESTLAND
VFW Post 9885, 9440 Hix Road (N42 19.871 W83 25.096)
M60A0 USA out SN 1540 91


WHITE PINE
American Legion Post 462, 62 Hemlock St
M60A1 USA out SN 1702; Unconfirmed 92


WYOMING
American Legion Post 154, 2327 Byron Center Rd (N42 55.379 W85 43.520) 93
M43 USA out One of four known survivors
M60A0 USA out?


YPSILANTI
VFW Post 2408, 616 W Michigan Ave (N42 14.390 W83 37.289)
M60A3 USA out AAD rebuild SN 4411A, RN 3A01970 94
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 7:04 pm
Post subject: Re: Shawn: Some unconfirmed AFVs in Michigan

- Neil_Baumgardner
XM1 Abrams USA std? PV4, has original Chrysler XM1 turret


Any other info on the original Chrysler XM1 turret nowdays? Maybe some photos?
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 09, 2020 5:54 pm
Post subject: Re: Shawn: Some unconfirmed AFVs in Michigan

It's been a few months since I have been in Muskegon, but as far as I know the M60 on Apple and the M60 on Witham are still there. The M48A1 that was at the VFW hall on Getty street in Muskegon is gone, having been moved across the street to the grounds of the L-3 Combat propulsion systems factory where it is somewhat visible from the road, but off limits to the public.

The M5 Stuart at John Ball park in Grand Rapids is most definitely gone. I have lived in Grand Rapids since 1999, I don't ever recall seeing it at John Ball Park.
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