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Specialist Kibbey would like to thank you for that promotion that is now 35 years(!) overdue. Wink (Actually, it was on it's way at ETS, but I opted for college....and college girls.....

It's good to see Jeff and I have plenty of subordinates to send out for more when the keg runs dry (yeah...like we're gonna' let someone else drive. Rolling Eyes )


They've got enough crap on there...they could almost be...tankers! Shocked
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I count 11 helmets and if I'm not mistaken, that was the capacity for these vehicles with crew. Can anyone identify what some of the boxes might contain? And how about that bumper ID? In Spec4 Kibbeys case, I believe Jack and Ginger-Ale would be stached in a secret compartment on the vehicle while I am the beer guy. Where was it you kept that again Doug?

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Specialist Kibbey would like to thank you for that promotion that is now 35 years(!) overdue. Wink



Ummmm.....errrr.....D'OH!!!!!

Sorry about the inadvertent promotion.

(Maybe military rank is like a bank account? If you leave it alone for a while it grows due to compound interest?)

(I suppose i could have titled the post "Sgt. Button and driver grab a few friends and go for a ride".....!)
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Can anyone identify what some of the boxes might contain?


My guess would be that those four large carboard boxes on the top edge of the side are combat rations. WWII version of MREs. I think that was the version before C-ration came out. Razz
As for the rest, could be almost anything. Confused
Anyone else notice the canteen cup hanging on the top of the front edge of the wind shield cover? Shocked

The WWII halftrack, the first SUV/RV all in one vehicle.

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And how about that bumper ID?


The 5 follow by the triangle stands for the 5th Armored Division.
The 46I stands for the 46th Infantry Battalion. The halftracks means the 46I is the 46th ARMORED Infantry Battalion.

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Looks like tents rolled up on the fenders...maybe a grenade crate and ammo boxes up front. Cases of K or C-rats in the mine racks on the sides...

A ma-Duece poking out the front, a .30 cal next to the mortar and probably another one on the other side.

And that building in the background looks rather hot!

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a .30 cal next to the mortar


Hi 68! Hi Folks!

Mortar? I don't see any mortar tube. I see something I think is butt of a M1 rifle stock sticking up. Shocked

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In Spec4 Kibbeys case, I believe Jack and Ginger-Ale would be stached in a secret compartment on the vehicle while I am the beer guy. Where was it you kept that again Doug?


You bet your sweet bippy, Sarge...and I ain't sayin' Wink
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Uh...round thing sticking up just to the right of the .30 cal? Maybe it's not mounted?

Wouldn't be the first time I wuz wrong

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Uh...round thing sticking up just to the right of the .30 cal? Maybe it's not mounted?

Wouldn't be the first time I wuz wrong


Looks like an inverted rifle butt to me...with sling. And I think it has a contour in the right place where the trigger hand grasps it.

Could you even get all those guys (and stuff) in there with a mortar?
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well if I was part of a mortar crew...and some GI came rollin by in a nice empty Halftrack....i sure as hell would jamb my tired ass inside along with all my buddies! If I have to hold the tube next to me.....

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well if I was part of a mortar crew...and some GI came rollin by in a nice empty Halftrack....i sure as hell would jamb my tired ass inside along with all my buddies! If I have to hold the tube next to me.....


I would too, Rob...especially if I had the baseplate! Laughing

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A couple of other reasons why I don't think it's a mortar track. Most mortar tracks were the M4A1 variety, based on the M2 halftrack chassis. This one looks to be an M3, not an M2. Although there was an M21 mortar track built on the M3 chassis (with mortar firing forward, not rearward like in the M4A1), the pintle mounted .50 is about where the front of the mortar tube would be on an M21. Just my opinion, FWIW....

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 4:21 pm
Post subject: Re: Sgts. Kibbey and Button grab a few friends and go for a ride

Okay, so it's not a mortar tube.....but just for arguments sake, why would you ride around in a combat zone with your weapon, that Garand (or what ever it is!), muzzle down and trapped between yourself and the side of the vehicle?

And even if it's not a mortar track...doesn't mean a mortar crew couldn't hitch a ride!

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 4:37 pm
Post subject: Re: Sgts. Kibbey and Button grab a few friends and go for a

I think I can make out the muzzle of another weapon in the grip of the soldier closest (in the enlargement)...perhaps this is a recovered weapon? in a scabbard? maybe he doesn't care or there's no foot room for the butt of the weapon on the floor?
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