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On which basis were made these Panzers repros?
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the_shadock
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Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 6:11 pm
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Hello,

I need your help to determine which tanks were used to make these reproductions of Panzer IIs and Panzer IIIs, apparently in Russia.

First Panzer III :

Panzer II :

[img]http://www.livinghistory.ru//index.php?s=181936c58b03d4addc41c7b2f81cde2e&act=Attach&type=post&id=19959[/img]

[img]http://www.livinghistory.ru//index.php?s=181936c58b03d4addc41c7b2f81cde2e&act=Attach&type=post&id=19956[/img]

[img]http://www.livinghistory.ru//index.php?act=Attach&type=post&id=20116[/img]

Tiger I (most probably a T-55 tank..)

[img]http://www.livinghistory.ru//index.php?act=Attach&type=post&id=20314[/img]

[img]http://www.livinghistory.ru//index.php?act=Attach&type=post&id=20315[/img]

Another Panzer III :

[img]http://www.livinghistory.ru//index.php?act=Attach&type=post&id=22967[/img]

source : http://www.antik-war.lv/viewtopic.php?t=14253

and http://www.livinghistory.ru//index.php?showtopic=10149

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P-O

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Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 6:47 pm Post subject: Re: On which basis were made these Panzers repros?
The panzer III might be based on the Frog missle launcher chassis. The road wheels on the Panzer II seem so familar but I just can't put my finger on it right now Jeff Lewis

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Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 7:34 pm Post subject: Re: On which basis were made these Panzers repros?
The TI looks like a Russian T-34 or T-55 just by the spacing of the road wheels and the pattern on the tracks. Jeff

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Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 12:36 am Post subject: Re: On which basis were made these Panzers repros?
The only one I can say for certain, is the Tiger. It's based on a T62 hull. You can tell from the cooling fan bulge on the rear wall. The Pz II could be off a SU-57 and the second Pz III looks like it could be off a SU-76 or something from that family. These guys have gone a long way to convert road wheels, drive sprockets, and wheel spacing to try to get a panzer.

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Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 5:00 am Post subject: Re: On which basis were made these Panzers repros?
"First Panzer III" seems to be built on ISU or SCUD TEL chassis I guess. "Another Panzer III" sporting number 623 is a look-alike mount on BMP chassis... DEFINITELY. Tracks are not original - they look to be odd to me.

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Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 7:08 am Post subject: Re: On which basis were made these Panzers repros?
- palic "Another Panzer III" sporting number 623 is a look-alike mount on BMP chassis... DEFINITELY. Tracks are not original - they look to be odd to me. Sure is. I knew that drive spocket and idler looked familiar. I'll bet the tracks are off a SU76.

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Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 7:59 am Post subject: Re: On which basis were made these Panzers repros?
I would say "Panzer II" could be built on a heavily modified chassis of GT-SM tracked ATV - at least roadwheels and idler look pretty same, drive sprocket looks strange to me. Just for comparison: forum.valka.cz/viewtop.../SOV-GT-SM To tanker2010: nothing is impossible

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Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 10:49 am Post subject: Re: On which basis were made these Panzers repros?
Pierre-Olivier, the first Pz. III is actually based on a postwar Swiss [!] "Panzer 61" ! It's one of two such conversions done for the movie "Enemy at the Gates". (Read also here !) (Source: Wikimedia) Hope this helps! Regards, AndrÃ© Flener

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Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 5:02 pm Post subject: Re: On which basis were made these Panzers repros?
Thanks for your help !! Pierre-Olivier _________________ soldat_ryan @ hotmail.com Looking for photos of Sherman manufacturer's plates

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Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 11:41 pm
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- palic

I would say "Panzer II" could be built on a heavily modified chassis of GT-SM tracked ATV - at least roadwheels and idler look pretty same, drive sprocket looks strange to me.

Just for comparison: forum.valka.cz/viewtop.../SOV-GT-SM

To tanker2010: nothing is impossible

Very clever! I hadn't seen this little fella before. If it followed me home after school, I WOULD definately keep it.

www.pwgs.org/products/...g34034.htm

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Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 5:45 am Post subject: Re: On which basis were made these Panzers repros?
Puma replica in progress www.livinghistory.ru//...entry87096

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