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armyjunk2 · ***Power User*** Offline Joined: Sep 22, 2006 Posts: 1416

I would say 1960's

TrevorLarkum · Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 10:18 pm Post subject: Re: News from Ft Knox

Yes, it could be a bit like dating a tree from its rings!

the_shadock · Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 10:16 pm Post subject: Re: News from Ft Knox

- TrevorLarkum

Great, done:

Fort Knox Hummel (UID189)

It's becoming a very good photographic history of this vehicle.

Well, this is very interesting. People who will repaint this vehicle at Fort Benning will be able to find the year of the layer of painting which they are scratching Mr. Green

TrevorLarkum · Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 10:10 pm Post subject: Re: News from Ft Knox

- armyjunk2

sure, you're more than welcome to

Great, done:

Fort Knox Hummel (UID189)

It's becoming a very good photographic history of this vehicle.

Roger, let me know if you want me to use a different name/avatar for you or if you have a better estimate of the date.

Also, any chance I could also add your pictures of the Pz IIIs?

Meanwhile I've added my photo's of the British, French and Soviet vehicles at FK, plus general views of the Post:

Preserved Tanks at Fort Knox

That marks a small milestone for PreservedTanks.com, taking the number of photo's on the site to 3000.

armyjunk2 · ***Power User*** Offline Joined: Sep 22, 2006 Posts: 1416

sure, you're more than welcome to

TrevorLarkum · Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2010 9:04 pm Post subject: Re: News from Ft Knox

- armyjunk2

I just thought i would post this for no reason
just happen to see it

Good enough reason! Can I add it?

Dontos · Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2010 11:07 pm Post subject: Re: News from Ft Knox

A year or so ago, while doing some research, I was shown one of the first deliver manifests, dated Dec 1946. The list was quite incomplete to what is known as original collection vehicles. It was a fairly short list, so the complete 'Patton Collection' of WWII vehicles did not arrive in one shipment but in several.

I do know of a couple vehicles that were photographed at APG prior to arriving here at Ft Knox. They are part of the original collection, so my assumption is that they may have been all shipped together, and it was easier to seperate them at APG. I could be wrong though.

As for a 'complete list',....I have never seen or heard of any Third Army list of vehicles, compiled prior to departure from ETO.

One of the most confusing & perhaps noteworthy items in the arriving vehicle manifest is ..... A Bergpanther! Shocked

Regards
Don

TrevorLarkum · Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2010 9:21 pm Post subject: Re: News from Ft Knox

- Dontos

Trevor

You are not pushing your luck at all. Feel free to use any of the photos I have posted.

Regards
Don

Many thanks! I've added that photo plus your ones on PhotoBucket, so the 'time machine' view is coming along very nicely:

Fort Knox Hummel (UID189)

- Garry_Redmon

I have made a page showing the Hummels as they appeared at the old Patton Museum c. 1965 showing paint schemes along with the late model shown behind the new museum in the late 90s. The quality of the old museum photos are not great since they were taken with a Brownie box camera.

The page can be viewed at armorfortheages.com/Hummel.htm

Nice pics - I've added a link to that page on each Hummel's page (and to the Munster StuG page).

Doug_Kibbey · Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2010 8:52 pm Post subject: Re: News from Ft Knox

When I see those photos of the old museum and Bob's pics, I get really annoyed with myself for not having taken more pictures back in the early '70's when I had the chance. Had an Insta-matic in '71, but 35mm when I came back in '72....unfortunately, I didn't have the interest. Grrrr......

panamadan · ***Power User*** Offline Joined: Jan 29, 2006 Posts: 174

Let's hope that he has some luck! It would make a quite a photo-albuim.
Dan

Garry_Redmon · Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2010 7:59 pm Post subject: Re: News from Ft Knox

- panamadan

Garry,
Is there are writen or photografic records of the vehicles that were collected?

I'm sure there is something in the museum's records. Since Don has been doing alot of research in the library, that's probably where he found out about the APG connection.

VonForhud · ***Power User*** Offline Joined: Mar 17, 2010 Posts: 162

Nice battledamage on the Hummel with the hole in the barrel.

panamadan · ***Power User*** Offline Joined: Jan 29, 2006 Posts: 174

Garry,
Is there are writen or photografic records of the vehicles that were collected?

Garry_Redmon · Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2010 4:50 pm Post subject: Re: News from Ft Knox

I have made a page showing the Hummels as they appeared at the old Patton Museum c. 1965 showing paint schemes along with the late model shown behind the new museum in the late 90s. The quality of the old museum photos are not great since they were taken with a Brownie box camera.

The page can be viewed at armorfortheages.com/Hummel.htm

Don may be privy to more information than I, but I wasn't aware that the Hummels came to the museum via APG. I was told that all of the vehicles from the original collection that came in 1946 were vehicles selected by 3rd Army staff during the war by order of General Patton and sent directly to Fort Knox after his death for use by the Armor School.

Garry

panamadan · ***Power User*** Offline Joined: Jan 29, 2006 Posts: 174

What I'm talking about is the tanish color that vehicles at APG were painted many years ago-and this Hummel seems to be in the same color. I'm not debating what color is correct for OD, etc just their odd choice of color.
Dan

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