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Sofia. National museum of military history
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The display contains a whole SA-2 battery, with six launchers, radar and command vehicle:


SA-2 Guideline by Massimo Foti, on Flickr
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An artillery piece you don't see that often:


8 cm PL kanon vz 37 by Massimo Foti, on Flickr
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 2:21 am
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This was quite unexpected, a Pavesi tractor in Sofia:


Pavesi tractor by Massimo Foti, on Flickr


OK, so I'm guessing those are the wheeled equivalent of "grousers" that can be deployed in mud/snow as needed and retracted for road and firm ground work?
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OK, so I'm guessing those are the wheeled equivalent of "grousers" that can be deployed in mud/snow as needed and retracted for road and firm ground work?


Yes!

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I know Doug likes vintage, multi-barrell weapons Smile

BTW I am not 100% sure about the identification here


10,66 mm Nobel machine gun by Massimo Foti, on Flickr
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 10:53 am
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This is quite an unique piece, a naval gun from Krupp mounted on a field carriage:


15 cm S.K.L 40 by Massimo Foti, on Flickr

More info here:
www.bulgarianartillery...m%20iR.htm
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 7:50 am
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Another unidentified gun:


Unidentified Krupp turkish gun by Massimo Foti, on Flickr

The markings show it's a Krupp gun that belonged to the Turkish Army:
www.flickr.com/photos/...hotostream

Here you can see another view:
www.flickr.com/photos/...hotostream

It remains to be seen if the muzzle-brake is original or a later upgrade.
Caliber to me seems in the 100/105 mm range

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Could it be one of these?
www.bulgarianartillery...201905.htm

I was unable to find better pictures to compare .-(

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 9:29 pm
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The muzzle brake is certainly a later addition. I have yet to see an early 20th century piece with such a feature. In fact, it looks like it came from a leFH 18.

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Yes, thinking again, I am sure the muzzle brake was added at a later stage. That's make things even more interesting, because it would imply it was in active use long after it was captured during the Balkan Wars. Your hint about the leFH 18 would confirm the 105 mm caliber.

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7.5 cm Gebirgsgeschutz 36 by Massimo Foti, on Flickr
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10 cm K 18 by Massimo Foti, on Flickr
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Very nice artillery stuff in Sofia
Thanks for sharing Massimo !

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 10, 2014 11:17 pm
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Regarding the 10cm Turkish gun at Sofia.

The Ottoman army ordered 18 10cm Belagerungskanone (Siege Gun) in 1905. These were 105mm L/30 guns weighing about 2900kg. It looks a good match for the gun at Sofia except for the muzzle brake. The gun is similar to the 107mm Krupp gun supplied to the Russian Army.

The date of 1905 is quoted but there doesn't seem to be an image of the date marking. If, as seems likely, the gun was processed through the Imperial Arsenal at Istanbul it should have a Rumi date and serial no. in Osmanli script.

The Osmanli script on the breech ring puts a bound on when the gun entered service since imported guns after the start of WW1 don't have
the script and locally (Turkish) built guns stopped using the script just after the end of WW1.

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Thanks for the additional info Charlie.

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