±Recent Visitors

Recent Visitors to Com-Central!

±User Info-big


Welcome Anonymous

Nickname
Password

Membership:
Latest: cgsimpson
New Today: 0
New Yesterday: 0
Overall: 6645

People Online:
Members: 0
Visitors: 611
Total: 611
Who Is Where:
 Visitors:
01: Photo Gallery
02: Home
03: Home
04: Community Forums
05: Your Account
06: Community Forums
07: Community Forums
08: Community Forums
09: Photo Gallery
10: Home
11: Photo Gallery
12: Home
13: Community Forums
14: Community Forums
15: Community Forums
16: Community Forums
17: Community Forums
18: Photo Gallery
19: Home
20: Member Screenshots
21: Photo Gallery
22: Community Forums
23: Community Forums
24: Photo Gallery
25: Photo Gallery
26: Downloads
27: Community Forums
28: Community Forums
29: Downloads
30: Photo Gallery
31: Photo Gallery
32: Downloads
33: Community Forums
34: Photo Gallery
35: Community Forums
36: CPGlang
37: Community Forums
38: Community Forums
39: News Archive
40: Community Forums
41: Photo Gallery
42: Community Forums
43: Community Forums
44: Community Forums
45: Community Forums
46: Downloads
47: Community Forums
48: CPGlang
49: Photo Gallery
50: Community Forums
51: Photo Gallery
52: Photo Gallery
53: Community Forums
54: Photo Gallery
55: Community Forums
56: Photo Gallery
57: Community Forums
58: Community Forums
59: Member Screenshots
60: Community Forums
61: Community Forums
62: Community Forums
63: Home
64: Photo Gallery
65: Home
66: Community Forums
67: Community Forums
68: Photo Gallery
69: Community Forums
70: Member Screenshots
71: Community Forums
72: Community Forums
73: Community Forums
74: Downloads
75: Downloads
76: Photo Gallery
77: Community Forums
78: Community Forums
79: Community Forums
80: Community Forums
81: Community Forums
82: Member Screenshots
83: Community Forums
84: Community Forums
85: Community Forums
86: Downloads
87: Community Forums
88: CPGlang
89: Community Forums
90: Photo Gallery
91: Community Forums
92: Home
93: Member Screenshots
94: Photo Gallery
95: Community Forums
96: Downloads
97: Community Forums
98: Community Forums
99: Community Forums
100: Community Forums
101: Member Screenshots
102: Photo Gallery
103: Community Forums
104: Photo Gallery
105: Community Forums
106: Downloads
107: Community Forums
108: Community Forums
109: Downloads
110: Community Forums
111: Photo Gallery
112: Photo Gallery
113: Photo Gallery
114: Photo Gallery
115: Community Forums
116: Photo Gallery
117: Community Forums
118: Home
119: Community Forums
120: Community Forums
121: Your Account
122: Member Screenshots
123: Photo Gallery
124: Home
125: Community Forums
126: Photo Gallery
127: Community Forums
128: Downloads
129: Community Forums
130: Community Forums
131: Community Forums
132: CPGlang
133: CPGlang
134: Community Forums
135: Photo Gallery
136: Community Forums
137: Community Forums
138: Photo Gallery
139: Community Forums
140: Home
141: Community Forums
142: Community Forums
143: Photo Gallery
144: Downloads
145: Member Screenshots
146: Member Screenshots
147: Home
148: Community Forums
149: Community Forums
150: Community Forums
151: Downloads
152: Photo Gallery
153: Downloads
154: Community Forums
155: Community Forums
156: Photo Gallery
157: Photo Gallery
158: Community Forums
159: Photo Gallery
160: Community Forums
161: Member Screenshots
162: Photo Gallery
163: Community Forums
164: News Archive
165: Home
166: Your Account
167: Community Forums
168: Member Screenshots
169: Community Forums
170: Downloads
171: Community Forums
172: Community Forums
173: Downloads
174: Member Screenshots
175: Community Forums
176: Community Forums
177: Community Forums
178: Photo Gallery
179: Photo Gallery
180: Community Forums
181: Downloads
182: Community Forums
183: Community Forums
184: Community Forums
185: Community Forums
186: Community Forums
187: Community Forums
188: Community Forums
189: Member Screenshots
190: Downloads
191: Home
192: Downloads
193: News Archive
194: Community Forums
195: Photo Gallery
196: Photo Gallery
197: Member Screenshots
198: Community Forums
199: Photo Gallery
200: Home
201: Community Forums
202: Photo Gallery
203: Community Forums
204: Photo Gallery
205: Photo Gallery
206: Community Forums
207: Your Account
208: Home
209: Community Forums
210: Photo Gallery
211: Community Forums
212: Community Forums
213: Photo Gallery
214: Home
215: Photo Gallery
216: Community Forums
217: Member Screenshots
218: Community Forums
219: Community Forums
220: Downloads
221: Home
222: Community Forums
223: Community Forums
224: Photo Gallery
225: Community Forums
226: Community Forums
227: Photo Gallery
228: Community Forums
229: Community Forums
230: Community Forums
231: Member Screenshots
232: Community Forums
233: Community Forums
234: Community Forums
235: Community Forums
236: Member Screenshots
237: Community Forums
238: Community Forums
239: Photo Gallery
240: Downloads
241: Community Forums
242: Downloads
243: Home
244: News Archive
245: Community Forums
246: Community Forums
247: Community Forums
248: Home
249: Community Forums
250: Community Forums
251: Photo Gallery
252: Community Forums
253: Community Forums
254: Community Forums
255: Photo Gallery
256: Photo Gallery
257: Member Screenshots
258: Community Forums
259: Community Forums
260: Community Forums
261: Community Forums
262: Community Forums
263: Community Forums
264: Community Forums
265: Community Forums
266: Community Forums
267: Community Forums
268: Community Forums
269: Photo Gallery
270: Home
271: Community Forums
272: CPGlang
273: Photo Gallery
274: Your Account
275: Photo Gallery
276: Downloads
277: Statistics
278: Photo Gallery
279: Community Forums
280: Community Forums
281: Community Forums
282: Photo Gallery
283: Community Forums
284: Photo Gallery
285: Community Forums
286: Home
287: Community Forums
288: Home
289: Community Forums
290: Photo Gallery
291: Community Forums
292: Community Forums
293: Photo Gallery
294: CPGlang
295: Community Forums
296: Community Forums
297: Community Forums
298: Photo Gallery
299: Community Forums
300: Community Forums
301: Community Forums
302: Photo Gallery
303: Member Screenshots
304: Photo Gallery
305: Community Forums
306: Photo Gallery
307: Home
308: Community Forums
309: Downloads
310: Photo Gallery
311: Community Forums
312: Photo Gallery
313: Community Forums
314: Photo Gallery
315: Downloads
316: CPGlang
317: Community Forums
318: Home
319: Photo Gallery
320: Community Forums
321: Downloads
322: Community Forums
323: Community Forums
324: Community Forums
325: Home
326: Community Forums
327: News Archive
328: Photo Gallery
329: Statistics
330: Member Screenshots
331: Community Forums
332: Community Forums
333: Downloads
334: Photo Gallery
335: Community Forums
336: Community Forums
337: Community Forums
338: Downloads
339: Community Forums
340: Member Screenshots
341: Photo Gallery
342: CPGlang
343: Community Forums
344: Member Screenshots
345: News Archive
346: Photo Gallery
347: Community Forums
348: Community Forums
349: Community Forums
350: Photo Gallery
351: News
352: Photo Gallery
353: Community Forums
354: Community Forums
355: Community Forums
356: Photo Gallery
357: Community Forums
358: Community Forums
359: Photo Gallery
360: Photo Gallery
361: Community Forums
362: Photo Gallery
363: Home
364: Photo Gallery
365: Photo Gallery
366: Community Forums
367: Community Forums
368: Photo Gallery
369: Community Forums
370: Community Forums
371: Your Account
372: Community Forums
373: Your Account
374: Photo Gallery
375: Community Forums
376: Community Forums
377: Community Forums
378: Photo Gallery
379: Community Forums
380: Community Forums
381: Community Forums
382: Your Account
383: Community Forums
384: Photo Gallery
385: Photo Gallery
386: Downloads
387: Photo Gallery
388: Community Forums
389: Community Forums
390: News Archive
391: Photo Gallery
392: Community Forums
393: Photo Gallery
394: Community Forums
395: CPGlang
396: Community Forums
397: Photo Gallery
398: Community Forums
399: Community Forums
400: Community Forums
401: Community Forums
402: Photo Gallery
403: Home
404: Community Forums
405: Community Forums
406: Community Forums
407: Photo Gallery
408: Community Forums
409: Community Forums
410: Home
411: Photo Gallery
412: Community Forums
413: Photo Gallery
414: Downloads
415: Home
416: Photo Gallery
417: Community Forums
418: Photo Gallery
419: Community Forums
420: Home
421: Photo Gallery
422: Home
423: Community Forums
424: Community Forums
425: Community Forums
426: Home
427: Community Forums
428: News
429: Home
430: Photo Gallery
431: Downloads
432: Photo Gallery
433: Downloads
434: Downloads
435: Community Forums
436: Photo Gallery
437: Community Forums
438: Your Account
439: Community Forums
440: Photo Gallery
441: Photo Gallery
442: News Archive
443: Member Screenshots
444: Community Forums
445: Community Forums
446: Community Forums
447: Community Forums
448: Photo Gallery
449: Photo Gallery
450: Photo Gallery
451: Home
452: Community Forums
453: Downloads
454: Community Forums
455: Community Forums
456: Community Forums
457: Photo Gallery
458: Photo Gallery
459: Community Forums
460: Member Screenshots
461: Photo Gallery
462: Photo Gallery
463: Home
464: Community Forums
465: Community Forums
466: Community Forums
467: Community Forums
468: Photo Gallery
469: Community Forums
470: Your Account
471: Your Account
472: Community Forums
473: News
474: Community Forums
475: Community Forums
476: Community Forums
477: News Archive
478: Member Screenshots
479: Member Screenshots
480: Member Screenshots
481: Community Forums
482: Community Forums
483: Community Forums
484: Home
485: Downloads
486: Community Forums
487: Community Forums
488: Home
489: Community Forums
490: Community Forums
491: Community Forums
492: Community Forums
493: Community Forums
494: Community Forums
495: Community Forums
496: Photo Gallery
497: Community Forums
498: Photo Gallery
499: Photo Gallery
500: Community Forums
501: Home
502: Member Screenshots
503: Community Forums
504: Downloads
505: Community Forums
506: Member Screenshots
507: Photo Gallery
508: Community Forums
509: Community Forums
510: Community Forums
511: Community Forums
512: Community Forums
513: Member Screenshots
514: Community Forums
515: Community Forums
516: Community Forums
517: Community Forums
518: Community Forums
519: Community Forums
520: Photo Gallery
521: Community Forums
522: Community Forums
523: Photo Gallery
524: Community Forums
525: Photo Gallery
526: Photo Gallery
527: Your Account
528: Community Forums
529: CPGlang
530: Community Forums
531: Community Forums
532: Member Screenshots
533: Community Forums
534: Community Forums
535: Home
536: Community Forums
537: Photo Gallery
538: Photo Gallery
539: Community Forums
540: Community Forums
541: Home
542: Community Forums
543: Photo Gallery
544: Your Account
545: Community Forums
546: Community Forums
547: CPGlang
548: Community Forums
549: Photo Gallery
550: Photo Gallery
551: Downloads
552: Community Forums
553: Your Account
554: Photo Gallery
555: Community Forums
556: Community Forums
557: Community Forums
558: CPGlang
559: Community Forums
560: Home
561: CPGlang
562: Community Forums
563: Photo Gallery
564: Downloads
565: Photo Gallery
566: Community Forums
567: Community Forums
568: Community Forums
569: Community Forums
570: Community Forums
571: Community Forums
572: Community Forums
573: Community Forums
574: Downloads
575: Photo Gallery
576: Community Forums
577: Community Forums
578: Community Forums
579: Community Forums
580: News
581: Photo Gallery
582: Member Screenshots
583: Photo Gallery
584: Home
585: Community Forums
586: Community Forums
587: Community Forums
588: Community Forums
589: CPGlang
590: Community Forums
591: Community Forums
592: Community Forums
593: Community Forums
594: Downloads
595: Community Forums
596: Photo Gallery
597: Photo Gallery
598: Member Screenshots
599: Home
600: Community Forums
601: News Archive
602: Community Forums
603: Community Forums
604: Community Forums
605: Photo Gallery
606: Photo Gallery
607: Community Forums
608: Community Forums
609: Community Forums
610: Community Forums
611: Community Forums

Staff Online:

No staff members are online!
Production variant Stryker MGS photos
The AFV ASSOCIATION was formed in 1964 to support the thoughts and research of all those interested in Armored Fighting Vehicles and related topics, such as AFV drawings. The emphasis has always been on sharing information and communicating with other members of similar interests; e.g. German armor, Japanese AFVs, or whatever.
Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3  Next
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page     Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board

View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
Roy_A_Lingle
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 1997
Location: El Paso & Ft Bliss, Texas
PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 3:16 pm
Post subject: Re: Production variant Stryker MGS photos

Hi Folks!

It is my undestanding (I maybe wrong , wouldn't be the first time)that both rounds are offically labeled cannister and Tankers have nick-name the can rounds with fuzes beehive.

Could this possible be a national mix up where the US labels all of them cannister and another military does call the fuzed type round beehive? Shocked

You Tankers have confuzed this old Scout again. Sad Confused Rolling Eyes Neutral

Sgt, Scouts Out! Smile

_________________
"You can never have too much reconnaissance."
General G.S. Patton Jr.
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail
Dontos
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 3436
Location: Vine Grove, KY
PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 4:32 pm
Post subject: Re: Production variant Stryker MGS photos

- Roy_A_Lingle
Hi Folks!

It is my undestanding (I maybe wrong , wouldn't be the first time)that both rounds are offically labeled cannister and Tankers have nick-name the can rounds with fuzes beehive.

Could this possible be a national mix up where the US labels all of them cannister and another military does call the fuzed type round beehive? Shocked

You Tankers have confuzed this old Scout again. Sad Confused Rolling Eyes Neutral

Sgt, Scouts Out! Smile


Heres how to straighten that out....

APERS (Anti-personnel) is BeeHive

Cannister is like YOU OLD CAV dudes Shocked (Back during the 'War for Southern Independence" aka 'The Civil War') used to call 'GRAPE SHOT'. Mr. Green

(running for cover from the skirmishers!!! Mr. Green )


_________________
"Gonna hold my breath until Armor returns home..."
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Visit poster's website AIM Address Yahoo Messenger Photo Gallery
Dontos
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 3436
Location: Vine Grove, KY
PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 4:41 pm
Post subject: Re: Production variant Stryker MGS photos

Here is the 120mm Canister Round:


Here it is being loaded:



Here it is being fired at a 50m target at cinder block / wooden wall w/ man form targets behind.



Canister can penetrate cars, trucks, walls, and such...

I don't think Beehive is designed to do that,...

_________________
"Gonna hold my breath until Armor returns home..."
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Visit poster's website AIM Address Yahoo Messenger Photo Gallery
bsmart
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 23, 2006
Posts: 2523
Location: Central Maryland
PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 8:38 pm
Post subject: Re: Production variant Stryker MGS photos

"Cannister is like YOU OLD CAV dudes (Back during the 'War for Southern Independence" aka 'The Civil War') used to call 'GRAPE SHOT'. "

With some trepidation I will question you on this.

Canister used to be a large sheet tin can full of small balls (27 for a 12 pdr napoleon) packed in sawdust.

Grape was a group of smaller cannon balls (usually 9) held together with a wooden plate top and bottom that was used by the Navy. The larger balls used in Grapeshot had some capability to take out sails, rigging, etc.

The name derived from the similarity to a bunch of grapes.

Now in the War Between the States ( an acceptable name for 'The Late unpleasentries' below the Mason Dixon Line) a 12 Pdr Napoleon (4.2" bore) with double cannister was an awsome last ditch anti assault round.

www.nps.gov/vick/inter...poleon.htm

_________________
Bob Smart ([email protected])
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail
Dontos
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 3436
Location: Vine Grove, KY
PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 10:26 pm
Post subject: Re: Production variant Stryker MGS photos

(using my 'families' outrageously exagerated Southern accent)

SUH. I must beg your pardon. My 'nawlege on such unpleasentries is based on my daddies yarns, from the days of old.

Howeva' my story on the differences of the modern munitions, was in ruff generalities to express the differences between the rounds in question....


(Actually I know 'squat' on Civil war munitions, but the example came to mind)

_________________
"Gonna hold my breath until Armor returns home..."
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Visit poster's website AIM Address Yahoo Messenger Photo Gallery
bsmart
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 23, 2006
Posts: 2523
Location: Central Maryland
PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 10:28 pm
Post subject: Re: Production variant Stryker MGS photos

For a descendent of a New Market Cadet exceptions can be made

_________________
Bob Smart ([email protected])
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail
Dontos
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 3436
Location: Vine Grove, KY
PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 10:34 pm
Post subject: Re: Production variant Stryker MGS photos

- bsmart
For a descendent of a New Market Cadet exceptions can be made


....and that was only one side of the family. Three immediate relatives 'fought' in the Civil War.

Two survived the war, the Third, fell in the Battle of the Wilderness. He was Gen LeRoy A. Stafford.

The Other, was a Politician in the Confederacy. Shocked

My dad was the Artilleryman....I'm the CDAT!! Cool

(Computerized Dumb A** Tanker) Mr. Green

_________________
"Gonna hold my breath until Armor returns home..."
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Visit poster's website AIM Address Yahoo Messenger Photo Gallery
Doug_Kibbey
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 23, 2006
Posts: 4678
Location: The Great Satan
PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 10:53 pm
Post subject: Re: Production variant Stryker MGS photos

Somewhere around I have an original letter written "back home" from a distant relative while assigned to a CSA unit with a Petersburg, VA military address...it makes for some lamentable reading.
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website Photo Gallery
bsmart
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 23, 2006
Posts: 2523
Location: Central Maryland
PostPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 12:49 am
Post subject: Re: Production variant Stryker MGS photos

Being a Marylander I had ancesters on both sides. Plus one that bought his way out of the draft Smile

One of those ancesters went back to the Eastern shore and returned to his life as a fisherman/oysterman. My Grandfather used to say the Uncle Shem was shot in bed by an irate husband when he was 60+ years old! Shocked

_________________
Bob Smart ([email protected])
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail
Dontos
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 3436
Location: Vine Grove, KY
PostPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 12:58 am
Post subject: Re: Production variant Stryker MGS photos

- bsmart
My Grandfather used to say the Uncle Shem was shot in bed by an irate husband when he was 60+ years old! Shocked


NOW THATS WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT!!......HAHAHA Laughing


_________________
"Gonna hold my breath until Armor returns home..."
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Visit poster's website AIM Address Yahoo Messenger Photo Gallery
mike_Duplessis
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 236

PostPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 1:54 pm
Post subject: Re: Production variant Stryker MGS photos

Back to top
View user's profile
mike_Duplessis
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 236

PostPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 7:51 pm
Post subject: Re: Production variant Stryker MGS photos

Its funny that for years they were pressing for the 105mm gun over all current 90mm low pressure guns due to the ammo still being in stock - but by the time they finally fiield the gun the compatible ammo's gone and they have to start over!

I read someone commenting that the newly designed 105mm round used a tougher steel casing rather than brass because of the autoloader - but I seem to recall 105mm ammo had switched over to steel casings a loooong time ago. Am I recall this correctly?

One thing about old 105mm gun 'beehive' round, if it fired flechette darts like other old behive rounds did the round may be illegal nowadays. No flechettes due to international treaty. I recalled that rule killed a Pentagon exotic rifle project sometime around the early 80s.
Tungsten balls, though? That's another matter entirely.
Back to top
View user's profile
Dontos
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 3436
Location: Vine Grove, KY
PostPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 8:01 pm
Post subject: Re: Production variant Stryker MGS photos

- mike_Duplessis

I read someone commenting that the newly designed 105mm round used a tougher steel casing rather than brass because of the autoloader - but I seem to recall 105mm ammo had switched over to steel casings a loooong time ago. Am I recall this correctly?

One thing about old 105mm gun 'beehive' round, if it fired flechette darts like other old behive rounds did the round may be illegal nowadays. No flechettes due to international treaty. I recalled that rule killed a Pentagon exotic rifle project sometime around the early 80s.
Tungsten balls, though? That's another matter entirely.


I believe you are correct on the casings, But I have a (105) shell casing and I thought it was aluminum, not steel. The brass casings were long gone when I came on the scene in 1985. It was a prized possession if one had one (Brass Casing).

As to the Beehive, I believe the phrase is "...inflicting cruel and unusual injury...??" ( As if being shot or blown up wasn't ?) .

_________________
"Gonna hold my breath until Armor returns home..."
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Visit poster's website AIM Address Yahoo Messenger Photo Gallery
Sabot
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 380
Location: Kentucky
PostPosted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 12:18 am
Post subject: Re: Production variant Stryker MGS photos

I was firing the last M60A3 gunnery in Germany in 1989. I remember a US colonel with a German accent coming up to my platoon on TTX and having us shoot some wiffleball training sabot with brass casings. He brought blankets to lay on the inside so the casings would not be damaged.

We just rolled up to the BP and fired them, carefully handed them down to the colonel and the sergeant with him. Figured he wanted them for some gift or something.

_________________
RobG
Back to top
View user's profile AIM Address
Dontos
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 3436
Location: Vine Grove, KY
PostPosted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 12:32 am
Post subject: Re: Production variant Stryker MGS photos

I remember that in CAT89, the Canadians were firing off of Leo 1A4's and they were shooting brass cased rounds.

They flung their rounds out the tank as they fired,.....BUT they had a ammo carrier following each tank. They quickly picked up the casings.

We sat there, hoping they would miss one or two, cause they would have been quickly 'secured'.

_________________
"Gonna hold my breath until Armor returns home..."
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Visit poster's website AIM Address Yahoo Messenger Photo Gallery
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page    Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board
Page 2 of 3
All times are GMT - 6 Hours
Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3  Next



Jump to:  


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You cannot download files in this forum