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I'm no Sherman expert , hence the question :

Any idea as to what type this Sherman is ?







Many thanks in advance - much appreciated Wink

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Dirk,
It's a M4(105) howitzer hull with a 76mm gun T23 turret on it. Not a factory produced tank. Where is this tank located?

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I agree that it is a M4 hull, but the travel lock for the gun doesn't look large enough for a 105mm. Maybe it was a proto-type to mount the 76mm T23 turret.
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The turret is a later t23 so I doubt it is a prototype. I'd say a range recovery cobbled together by someone. Love the dummy gun. The Travel lock is interchangeable so maybe it has been swapped.
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As Al (Bowie) wrote, the same travel lock was used for 75-76-105 mm guns, it was just positioned farther down on the glacis for the last.
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Where is this tank located?


Many thanks to all for the ID - greatly appreciated .

Time for me to find a copy of the Hunnicutt Sherman book Smile

This tank is at a South African Armour Museum - the photos I took is about 1 year old. Do not know if this tank has been restored , but I do know that a T34/85 was restored to running condition.

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Time for me to find a copy of the Hunnicutt Sherman book Smile


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Bring money...and lots of it. Wink
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Where is this tank located?




This tank is at a South African Armour Museum - the photos I took is about 1 year old.

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IIRC, the South Africans used M4A1(76) and M4(105) in during the Italian Campaign. Therefore, this tank was probably put together using components from both types.

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Time for me to find a copy of the Hunnicutt Sherman book Smile


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Bring money...and lots of it. Wink


$499 for a second-hand copy!

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Time for me to find a copy of the Hunnicutt Sherman book Smile


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Bring money...and lots of it. Wink


$499 for a second-hand copy!

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Hell, I can get one for $400.00. Laughing Laughing What kills me is that the Abrams books is going for $500.00! Shocked Shocked

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The turret is a later t23 so I doubt it is a prototype.


Actually, I think it's an earlier T23 turret with the split loader's hatch, which would fit with the notion that this turret might be from one of the M4A1(76) that South African forces used in Italy. It appears that there is a bulge on the left top of the turret to accommodate the split hatch, I think the MG mount can be seen on the front of the hatch, and I haven't seen the casting numbers visible on the right side of the turret on any of the later oval hatch turrets. Of course, this is assuming that you are defining "early" vs. "late" 76mm. turrets the same way I am, i.e., split vs. oval loader's hatch.

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I got lucky I guess, I managed to get Abrams off Ebay for $196, and Patton for $182. Although I ended up paying $272 for Stuart.... Still looking for Firepower, but I havent seen a good deal on it yet (ie less than $400)...

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Oh yeah, and y'all will hate me for this, but two years ago I also got Sherman off Ebay (in decent condition) for just $175!

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Oh yeah, and y'all will hate me for this, but two years ago I also got Sherman off Ebay (in decent condition) for just $175!

Neil


That's okay. When the Sherman was reissued in the 90's, I picked mine up from the bookstore my girlfriend worked at for...$54.00.

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Eeeg.... Yeah, my friend is still waiting for them to be reprinted...

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