±Recent Visitors

Recent Visitors to Com-Central!

±User Info-big


Welcome Anonymous

Nickname
Password

Membership:
Latest: cgsimpson
New Today: 0
New Yesterday: 0
Overall: 6646

People Online:
Members: 0
Visitors: 124
Total: 124
Who Is Where:
 Visitors:
01: Photo Gallery
02: Community Forums
03: Home
04: Community Forums
05: Community Forums
06: Downloads
07: Photo Gallery
08: Community Forums
09: Community Forums
10: Photo Gallery
11: Downloads
12: Home
13: CPGlang
14: CPGlang
15: Community Forums
16: Community Forums
17: Photo Gallery
18: Community Forums
19: Community Forums
20: Community Forums
21: Community Forums
22: CPGlang
23: Community Forums
24: Photo Gallery
25: Community Forums
26: Community Forums
27: CPGlang
28: Community Forums
29: Statistics
30: Community Forums
31: Statistics
32: Community Forums
33: CPGlang
34: CPGlang
35: Community Forums
36: CPGlang
37: Statistics
38: Community Forums
39: Community Forums
40: Community Forums
41: Community Forums
42: Community Forums
43: Community Forums
44: Community Forums
45: Community Forums
46: Community Forums
47: Community Forums
48: Community Forums
49: Community Forums
50: CPGlang
51: Home
52: Downloads
53: Community Forums
54: Home
55: Community Forums
56: Your Account
57: Home
58: Community Forums
59: Community Forums
60: CPGlang
61: Community Forums
62: Community Forums
63: CPGlang
64: Community Forums
65: Home
66: Home
67: Community Forums
68: Community Forums
69: Community Forums
70: Community Forums
71: Community Forums
72: Community Forums
73: Community Forums
74: Community Forums
75: Statistics
76: Photo Gallery
77: Community Forums
78: Community Forums
79: CPGlang
80: Search
81: Community Forums
82: Community Forums
83: Community Forums
84: CPGlang
85: Community Forums
86: Community Forums
87: Home
88: Community Forums
89: Your Account
90: Community Forums
91: Community Forums
92: Community Forums
93: Community Forums
94: CPGlang
95: Community Forums
96: Community Forums
97: Community Forums
98: Community Forums
99: Community Forums
100: Community Forums
101: Community Forums
102: Community Forums
103: Community Forums
104: Community Forums
105: Community Forums
106: Community Forums
107: Home
108: Community Forums
109: Community Forums
110: Home
111: CPGlang
112: CPGlang
113: Community Forums
114: Community Forums
115: Community Forums
116: Community Forums
117: CPGlang
118: CPGlang
119: Home
120: Home
121: Home
122: Community Forums
123: Community Forums
124: Photo Gallery

Staff Online:

No staff members are online!
T92 SPG & T93HMC
The AFV ASSOCIATION was formed in 1964 to support the thoughts and research of all those interested in Armored Fighting Vehicles and related topics, such as AFV drawings. The emphasis has always been on sharing information and communicating with other members of similar interests; e.g. German armor, Japanese AFVs, or whatever.
Go to page 1, 2  Next
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page     Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board

View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
ossie
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Aug 20, 2006
Posts: 81

PostPosted: Sun Aug 20, 2006 10:00 pm
Post subject: T92 SPG & T93HMC

HI ALL

nice to be back on AFV news. hope you not missed me to much.

ok now to the serious note i am after photograhs and measurements of the T93HMC at Taccoma Detroit. sorry if i spelt it wrong but i am in the uk.

i want to build this vehicle as a model but i need soem help , can anybody help please .
feel free to email me

thanks
ossie
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail
Hellfish6
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Apr 09, 2006
Posts: 151
Location: Orlando
PostPosted: Sun Aug 20, 2006 10:22 pm
Post subject: Re: T92 SPG & T93HMC

Have you seen these yet?

ww2photo.mimerswell.co...92/t92.htm

Looks like a great project. If you find any line drawings I'd love to see them too - I enjoy making computer 3D models of oddball armored fighting vehicles.
Back to top
View user's profile
ossie
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Aug 20, 2006
Posts: 81

PostPosted: Sun Aug 20, 2006 10:39 pm
Post subject: Re: T92 SPG & T93HMC

hi

thanks for the link yes i have seen those.

no i have not sen any drawings thats my problem, i have no measurements what so ever to go on.
thanks
ossie
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail
Hellfish6
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Apr 09, 2006
Posts: 151
Location: Orlando
PostPosted: Sun Aug 20, 2006 10:41 pm
Post subject: Re: T92 SPG & T93HMC

I wonder if there are any drawing in the Hunnicutt book about the Pershing?
Back to top
View user's profile
Roy_A_Lingle
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 1997
Location: El Paso & Ft Bliss, Texas
PostPosted: Mon Aug 21, 2006 8:36 pm
Post subject: Re: T92 SPG & T93HMC

Hi Ossie! Hi Folks!

Glad to see the board's Centurion expert has made the move to the next site! Welcome back Sir!

Any chance you had anything to do with that new AFV Centurion kit?

I checked my copy of Hunnicutt's Pershing. There are a few more photos than what the wed site HF6 knew of. Most of the ones at that site are in Hunnicutt's book.

Do you have Hunnicutt's Pershing book or access to a copy?
His book has data sheets on both vehicles if you need any of that info.

Sgt, Scouts Out! Smile

_________________
"You can never have too much reconnaissance."
General G.S. Patton Jr.
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail
ossie
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Aug 20, 2006
Posts: 81

PostPosted: Mon Aug 21, 2006 10:04 pm
Post subject: Re: T92 SPG & T93HMC

HI Roy

well yes i did have alot to do with the Centurion and still am involved. Laughing

i have the pershing book which is what started me on this quest.
i want to build the picture of the T92 loading on to the dragon wagon.
i also have a very few picture sof the real thing.


so any body who can just measure some basics and pictuers and would be truly gratefull.

ROY question for you. referance the AFV Centurion kit. how many version from the kit can you make by adding one etch brass set from AA and a 105mm gun. Smile

yep i back
ossie
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail
Hellfish6
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Apr 09, 2006
Posts: 151
Location: Orlando
PostPosted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 12:59 am
Post subject: Re: T92 SPG & T93HMC

I have Hunnicutt's firepower book but there wasn't anything in there. Hm... I really would like to see line drawings. Your quest is becoming mine as well...
Back to top
View user's profile
Roy_A_Lingle
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 1997
Location: El Paso & Ft Bliss, Texas
PostPosted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 6:11 am
Post subject: Re: T92 SPG & T93HMC

Hi Ossie! Hi Folks!

- ossie

well yes i did have alot to do with the Centurion and still am involved. Laughing

ROY question for you. referance the AFV Centurion kit. how many version from the kit can you make by adding one etch brass set from AA and a 105mm gun. Smile


I don't know without looking into, but I picked up two of those new AFV kits figuring I could make at least two. I would guess, if one counts IDF versions, I think a AVRE should be possible, maybe SIX (possible more) different ones might be possible with a number of small changes between them.

As I understand the Aus' Mark Vs, they had a number of the upgrades other Marks had so I was thinking it shouldn't be that much of problem to convert that kit to a number of other versions.

That any where close?
Sgt, Scouts Out! Smile

_________________
"You can never have too much reconnaissance."
General G.S. Patton Jr.


Last edited by Roy_A_Lingle on Tue Aug 22, 2006 9:12 pm; edited 1 time in total
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail
Hellfish6
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Apr 09, 2006
Posts: 151
Location: Orlando
PostPosted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 2:34 pm
Post subject: Re: T92 SPG & T93HMC

Someone posted these on tank-net after I asked. Hope they help:

www.battletanks.com/im.../T92-5.jpg

www.battletanks.com/images/t92d.jpg

www.battletanks.com/im..._Shawn.jpg

www.battletanks.com/im...2__C-1.jpg

Apparently this vehicle used to be at Aberdeen but got moved - presumably to Fort Sill.
Back to top
View user's profile
bsmart
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 23, 2006
Posts: 2523
Location: Central Maryland
PostPosted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 3:51 pm
Post subject: Re: T92 SPG & T93HMC

There is a T92/T93 at Aberdeen. It is 'behind the fence' and supposedly some part of the gun mount was disassembled at some point and never reassembled. The Museum Staff knows about it and would like to get it put back together. Whether it will 'make the move' when the musuem moves remains to be seen.

_________________
Bob Smart ([email protected])
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail
Neil_Baumgardner
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 3942
Location: Arlington, VA
PostPosted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 5:00 pm
Post subject: Re: T92 SPG & T93HMC

The T92 "behind the fence" is known as "King Kong."

The March 1994 issue of Museum Ordnance said the following:

“A few years ago it was taken ‘behind the fence’ for painting. Once there, however, the T92 was dismantled…The chassis is nearly intact."

Additionally, according to the Museum Guide CD's description of the M1 203mm towed howitzer:

"A self-propelled version , the T93, was ordered and developed but production was cancelled after VJ Day. The museum display is only the barrel of the 8-inch gun. Strangely, the tries [sic] of its transport wagon were made in the Soviet Union. The 8-inch gun's split trail carriage and the T93 are supposed to be stored 'somewhere in the back area' of APG."

That being said, I havent found any record of a T93 in the Ordnance Museum collection - such as a MCV or MAR file. OTOH, oddly enough I havent gone through the actual "active" files as extensively as I have the "inactives." Wink It may well be in there...

Neil
Back to top
View user's profile
Hellfish6
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Apr 09, 2006
Posts: 151
Location: Orlando
PostPosted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 5:19 pm
Post subject: Re: T92 SPG & T93HMC

Thanks for the info. Still no sign of line drawings or blueprints or anything?
Back to top
View user's profile
ossie
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Aug 20, 2006
Posts: 81

PostPosted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 5:37 pm
Post subject: Re: T92 SPG & T93HMC

hi

thanks so far.

to answer the question 14 tanks. with teh aid of AA pe and 105 mm gun.
mk5, 5/1,5/2. + LR long range by adding rear fuel tank versions
mk6, 6/1, 6/2. +LR long range by adding rear fuel tank versions
mk 11 + mk11 op +LR long range by adding rear fuel tank
australian mk5/1 both vietnam and non vietnam
danish , dutch ,candian ,swedish, jordaian, south african.

the last few would require a few extra bits.
all the bits are in teh kit.

ok T92/93

THANKS FOR ALL TEH INFOMATION SO FAR.
if you could get any pictures of any parts of the T92 and something basic in measurements i would be really really grate full
or if any body as access to fort sill

thanks
ossie
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail
bsmart
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 23, 2006
Posts: 2523
Location: Central Maryland
PostPosted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 5:45 pm
Post subject: Re: T92 SPG & T93HMC

- Neil_Baumgardner
The T92 "behind the fence" is known as "King Kong."


Additionally, according to the Museum Guide CD's description of the M1 203mm towed howitzer:

That being said, I havent found any record of a T93 in the Ordnance Museum collection - such as a MCV or MAR file. OTOH, oddly enough I havent gone through the actual "active" files as extensively as I have the "inactives." Wink It may well be in there...

Neil


Do you mean M1 203mm towed GUN? I'm pretty sure that is the one you mean (Yes the tires on the one at the Museum are Russian, It turns out that size tire was still in production for heavy equipment over there when the Museum needed to replace the rotted ones on the gun)

Ed seemed to think it was his when we talked about it a few months back Rolling Eyes so it should be in the active files.

_________________
Bob Smart ([email protected])
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail
Neil_Baumgardner
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 3942
Location: Arlington, VA
PostPosted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 6:35 pm
Post subject: Re: T92 SPG & T93HMC

- bsmart
- Neil_Baumgardner
The T92 "behind the fence" is known as "King Kong."

Additionally, according to the Museum Guide CD's description of the M1 203mm towed howitzer:

That being said, I havent found any record of a T93 in the Ordnance Museum collection - such as a MCV or MAR file. OTOH, oddly enough I havent gone through the actual "active" files as extensively as I have the "inactives." Wink It may well be in there...

Neil


Do you mean M1 203mm towed GUN? I'm pretty sure that is the one you mean (Yes the tires on the one at the Museum are Russian, It turns out that size tire was still in production for heavy equipment over there when the Museum needed to replace the rotted ones on the gun)


Sorry, I occasionally fall back into the rule that big barrel = howitzer. It generally applies today, but I sometimes forget there were big guns that werent howitzers back in WWII...

An addition point you raise is that the subject line to this thread is incorrect. The T92 was a 240mm HMC (not an SPG), while the T93 was a 203mm SPG (not HMC).


Ed seemed to think it was his when we talked about it a few months back Rolling Eyes so it should be in the active files.


But seperate & distinct from the T92 King Kong? Are there both behind the fence?... Or is there confusion between the two?

Neil
Back to top
View user's profile
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page    Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board
Page 1 of 2
All times are GMT - 6 Hours
Go to page 1, 2  Next



Jump to:  


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You cannot download files in this forum