±Recent Visitors

Recent Visitors to Com-Central!

±User Info-big


Welcome Anonymous

Nickname
Password

Membership:
Latest: cgsimpson
New Today: 0
New Yesterday: 0
Overall: 6645

People Online:
Members: 0
Visitors: 655
Total: 655
Who Is Where:
 Visitors:
01: Photo Gallery
02: Community Forums
03: Community Forums
04: Photo Gallery
05: Community Forums
06: News Archive
07: Community Forums
08: Community Forums
09: Photo Gallery
10: Home
11: Community Forums
12: Community Forums
13: Community Forums
14: Community Forums
15: Community Forums
16: Photo Gallery
17: Home
18: Home
19: Community Forums
20: Statistics
21: Community Forums
22: Community Forums
23: Photo Gallery
24: Home
25: Community Forums
26: Your Account
27: Downloads
28: Community Forums
29: Downloads
30: Community Forums
31: Home
32: Community Forums
33: Community Forums
34: Community Forums
35: Photo Gallery
36: Community Forums
37: Community Forums
38: Photo Gallery
39: Community Forums
40: Photo Gallery
41: Community Forums
42: Community Forums
43: News Archive
44: Community Forums
45: Community Forums
46: Photo Gallery
47: Community Forums
48: Community Forums
49: Photo Gallery
50: Downloads
51: Community Forums
52: Community Forums
53: Community Forums
54: Community Forums
55: Community Forums
56: Photo Gallery
57: Community Forums
58: Downloads
59: Your Account
60: Community Forums
61: Community Forums
62: Community Forums
63: Community Forums
64: CPGlang
65: Home
66: Member Screenshots
67: Community Forums
68: Community Forums
69: Community Forums
70: Community Forums
71: Photo Gallery
72: Member Screenshots
73: Community Forums
74: Community Forums
75: Community Forums
76: Community Forums
77: Community Forums
78: Your Account
79: Community Forums
80: Photo Gallery
81: Community Forums
82: Home
83: Community Forums
84: Home
85: CPGlang
86: Community Forums
87: Community Forums
88: Community Forums
89: Home
90: Home
91: Community Forums
92: Community Forums
93: Community Forums
94: CPGlang
95: Community Forums
96: Home
97: Community Forums
98: Home
99: Photo Gallery
100: Community Forums
101: Community Forums
102: Community Forums
103: Tell a Friend
104: Home
105: Photo Gallery
106: Home
107: Community Forums
108: Photo Gallery
109: Photo Gallery
110: Community Forums
111: Photo Gallery
112: Community Forums
113: Community Forums
114: Community Forums
115: Community Forums
116: Community Forums
117: Community Forums
118: Photo Gallery
119: Photo Gallery
120: Community Forums
121: Home
122: Downloads
123: Community Forums
124: Photo Gallery
125: Community Forums
126: Home
127: Your Account
128: Community Forums
129: Community Forums
130: Home
131: Home
132: Community Forums
133: Member Screenshots
134: Photo Gallery
135: Downloads
136: Community Forums
137: Community Forums
138: Home
139: Photo Gallery
140: Community Forums
141: Community Forums
142: Community Forums
143: Community Forums
144: Community Forums
145: Community Forums
146: Photo Gallery
147: Community Forums
148: Downloads
149: Photo Gallery
150: Photo Gallery
151: Community Forums
152: Community Forums
153: Community Forums
154: Home
155: Home
156: Home
157: Community Forums
158: Community Forums
159: Community Forums
160: News Archive
161: Community Forums
162: CPGlang
163: Home
164: Community Forums
165: Community Forums
166: Community Forums
167: Home
168: Your Account
169: Photo Gallery
170: Photo Gallery
171: Photo Gallery
172: Downloads
173: Community Forums
174: Community Forums
175: Community Forums
176: Home
177: Community Forums
178: Photo Gallery
179: Community Forums
180: Home
181: Community Forums
182: Downloads
183: Downloads
184: Photo Gallery
185: Home
186: CPGlang
187: Community Forums
188: Downloads
189: Home
190: Home
191: Home
192: Community Forums
193: Community Forums
194: Photo Gallery
195: Community Forums
196: Community Forums
197: Member Screenshots
198: Community Forums
199: Community Forums
200: Member Screenshots
201: News Archive
202: Community Forums
203: Home
204: Community Forums
205: CPGlang
206: Photo Gallery
207: Member Screenshots
208: Community Forums
209: Photo Gallery
210: Community Forums
211: Community Forums
212: CPGlang
213: Community Forums
214: Home
215: Home
216: Community Forums
217: Photo Gallery
218: Community Forums
219: Community Forums
220: Community Forums
221: Community Forums
222: Photo Gallery
223: Photo Gallery
224: Community Forums
225: Community Forums
226: Downloads
227: News Archive
228: Community Forums
229: Photo Gallery
230: Community Forums
231: Photo Gallery
232: Downloads
233: Community Forums
234: Photo Gallery
235: Member Screenshots
236: Community Forums
237: Community Forums
238: Community Forums
239: Home
240: Community Forums
241: Community Forums
242: Community Forums
243: Community Forums
244: Home
245: Home
246: Search
247: Community Forums
248: Community Forums
249: Community Forums
250: Photo Gallery
251: Photo Gallery
252: Community Forums
253: Community Forums
254: Community Forums
255: Photo Gallery
256: Community Forums
257: CPGlang
258: Community Forums
259: Community Forums
260: Community Forums
261: Home
262: Community Forums
263: Community Forums
264: Community Forums
265: Community Forums
266: Community Forums
267: Downloads
268: Community Forums
269: Community Forums
270: Photo Gallery
271: Community Forums
272: Community Forums
273: Community Forums
274: Community Forums
275: Member Screenshots
276: Member Screenshots
277: Home
278: Community Forums
279: Community Forums
280: Community Forums
281: Community Forums
282: Community Forums
283: Home
284: Community Forums
285: Community Forums
286: Photo Gallery
287: Community Forums
288: Community Forums
289: Home
290: Member Screenshots
291: Photo Gallery
292: Community Forums
293: Community Forums
294: Photo Gallery
295: Photo Gallery
296: Community Forums
297: Community Forums
298: Home
299: Downloads
300: Community Forums
301: Community Forums
302: Photo Gallery
303: Community Forums
304: Photo Gallery
305: Community Forums
306: Community Forums
307: Community Forums
308: Photo Gallery
309: Community Forums
310: Photo Gallery
311: Community Forums
312: Home
313: Home
314: Community Forums
315: Community Forums
316: Home
317: Community Forums
318: Home
319: Community Forums
320: Community Forums
321: Community Forums
322: Photo Gallery
323: Photo Gallery
324: Photo Gallery
325: Home
326: Home
327: Community Forums
328: Community Forums
329: Community Forums
330: Community Forums
331: Community Forums
332: Community Forums
333: News Archive
334: Photo Gallery
335: Community Forums
336: Community Forums
337: Home
338: Community Forums
339: Community Forums
340: Home
341: Community Forums
342: Home
343: Community Forums
344: Photo Gallery
345: Member Screenshots
346: Community Forums
347: Community Forums
348: Community Forums
349: Community Forums
350: Community Forums
351: Community Forums
352: Community Forums
353: Community Forums
354: Photo Gallery
355: Community Forums
356: Community Forums
357: Photo Gallery
358: Community Forums
359: Community Forums
360: Community Forums
361: Community Forums
362: Community Forums
363: Community Forums
364: Community Forums
365: Community Forums
366: Home
367: Community Forums
368: Community Forums
369: Community Forums
370: Community Forums
371: Community Forums
372: Community Forums
373: Community Forums
374: Community Forums
375: Photo Gallery
376: Community Forums
377: Home
378: Photo Gallery
379: Photo Gallery
380: Community Forums
381: Community Forums
382: Community Forums
383: Downloads
384: Community Forums
385: Member Screenshots
386: Community Forums
387: Community Forums
388: Community Forums
389: Community Forums
390: Community Forums
391: Downloads
392: Downloads
393: Community Forums
394: Home
395: Community Forums
396: Community Forums
397: Community Forums
398: Photo Gallery
399: Community Forums
400: Photo Gallery
401: Community Forums
402: Community Forums
403: Community Forums
404: Community Forums
405: Community Forums
406: Community Forums
407: Photo Gallery
408: Photo Gallery
409: Member Screenshots
410: Community Forums
411: Community Forums
412: Community Forums
413: Community Forums
414: Community Forums
415: Community Forums
416: Statistics
417: Photo Gallery
418: Home
419: Photo Gallery
420: Community Forums
421: Home
422: Community Forums
423: Member Screenshots
424: Community Forums
425: Community Forums
426: Community Forums
427: News
428: Community Forums
429: Member Screenshots
430: Downloads
431: Community Forums
432: Community Forums
433: Community Forums
434: Home
435: Community Forums
436: CPGlang
437: Community Forums
438: Community Forums
439: Community Forums
440: Photo Gallery
441: Community Forums
442: Community Forums
443: Home
444: Community Forums
445: Community Forums
446: Home
447: Community Forums
448: Community Forums
449: Community Forums
450: Downloads
451: Member Screenshots
452: Downloads
453: Home
454: Photo Gallery
455: Home
456: Community Forums
457: Photo Gallery
458: Community Forums
459: Photo Gallery
460: Community Forums
461: Community Forums
462: Community Forums
463: Photo Gallery
464: Your Account
465: Community Forums
466: Downloads
467: Community Forums
468: Community Forums
469: Community Forums
470: Community Forums
471: Community Forums
472: Home
473: Photo Gallery
474: Community Forums
475: Community Forums
476: Photo Gallery
477: Community Forums
478: Community Forums
479: Photo Gallery
480: Photo Gallery
481: Community Forums
482: Community Forums
483: Photo Gallery
484: Community Forums
485: Photo Gallery
486: Statistics
487: Home
488: Community Forums
489: News
490: Photo Gallery
491: Home
492: Photo Gallery
493: Community Forums
494: Home
495: Photo Gallery
496: Community Forums
497: Community Forums
498: Downloads
499: Community Forums
500: Community Forums
501: Community Forums
502: Home
503: Community Forums
504: Photo Gallery
505: Community Forums
506: Photo Gallery
507: Photo Gallery
508: Community Forums
509: Community Forums
510: Photo Gallery
511: Photo Gallery
512: Community Forums
513: Community Forums
514: Community Forums
515: Community Forums
516: Community Forums
517: Home
518: Member Screenshots
519: Community Forums
520: Downloads
521: Photo Gallery
522: Community Forums
523: Community Forums
524: Community Forums
525: Community Forums
526: Community Forums
527: Home
528: Community Forums
529: Community Forums
530: Community Forums
531: Community Forums
532: Community Forums
533: Community Forums
534: Photo Gallery
535: Home
536: Community Forums
537: Home
538: Community Forums
539: Community Forums
540: Downloads
541: Downloads
542: Community Forums
543: Community Forums
544: Home
545: Community Forums
546: Community Forums
547: Community Forums
548: Community Forums
549: Community Forums
550: Community Forums
551: Community Forums
552: Community Forums
553: Statistics
554: Downloads
555: Community Forums
556: Community Forums
557: Member Screenshots
558: Home
559: Photo Gallery
560: Downloads
561: Community Forums
562: Community Forums
563: Downloads
564: Community Forums
565: Home
566: Community Forums
567: News Archive
568: Home
569: Community Forums
570: Community Forums
571: Home
572: Member Screenshots
573: Home
574: Photo Gallery
575: Community Forums
576: Community Forums
577: Home
578: Photo Gallery
579: Community Forums
580: Community Forums
581: Community Forums
582: Home
583: Community Forums
584: Community Forums
585: Home
586: Downloads
587: Photo Gallery
588: Community Forums
589: Community Forums
590: Community Forums
591: Community Forums
592: Photo Gallery
593: Community Forums
594: Home
595: Home
596: Photo Gallery
597: Community Forums
598: Community Forums
599: CPGlang
600: Community Forums
601: Home
602: Community Forums
603: Community Forums
604: Community Forums
605: Photo Gallery
606: Photo Gallery
607: Community Forums
608: Community Forums
609: Community Forums
610: Community Forums
611: Home
612: Home
613: Photo Gallery
614: Photo Gallery
615: Community Forums
616: Community Forums
617: Photo Gallery
618: Downloads
619: Community Forums
620: Home
621: Community Forums
622: Community Forums
623: Community Forums
624: Community Forums
625: Home
626: Community Forums
627: Community Forums
628: Community Forums
629: Community Forums
630: Photo Gallery
631: Community Forums
632: Home
633: Home
634: Community Forums
635: Community Forums
636: Community Forums
637: Home
638: Supporters
639: Community Forums
640: Photo Gallery
641: Community Forums
642: Community Forums
643: Community Forums
644: Community Forums
645: CPGlang
646: Community Forums
647: Community Forums
648: Community Forums
649: Downloads
650: Photo Gallery
651: Photo Gallery
652: Downloads
653: Photo Gallery
654: Downloads
655: News Archive

Staff Online:

No staff members are online!
Oh good grief....
The AFV ASSOCIATION was formed in 1964 to support the thoughts and research of all those interested in Armored Fighting Vehicles and related topics, such as AFV drawings. The emphasis has always been on sharing information and communicating with other members of similar interests; e.g. German armor, Japanese AFVs, or whatever.
Go to page 1, 2  Next
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page     Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board

View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
JimWeb
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 1439
Location: The back of beyond
PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 8:25 pm
Post subject: Oh good grief....

Even CNN are refering to it as the gavin...

www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_ntdB17cW4

Cool

_________________
TTFN
Jim

If your not a member of JED then your
not serious about anything military..

***********************
www.jedsite.info
JED Military Equipment
***********************
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website ICQ Number
Doug_Kibbey
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 23, 2006
Posts: 4678
Location: The Great Satan
PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 10:24 pm
Post subject: Re: Oh good grief....

CNN are not known for being informed on the issues, especially this one.
BTW, that video and many others uploaded by one "nomorenarcissism", the rhetoric inherent in the name should sound familiar..... Rolling Eyes
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website Photo Gallery
Roy_A_Lingle
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 1997
Location: El Paso & Ft Bliss, Texas
PostPosted: Sat Jun 02, 2007 6:41 pm
Post subject: Re: Oh good grief....

Hi Folks!

It's not all CNN's fault. More and more people are picking the name up for FAS.org and other Defense related news sites that are getting it from that Airborne site.

I read a report about two weeks ago on a hearing where a Congressman called the M113 by that name.

Sgt, Scouts Out!

_________________
"You can never have too much reconnaissance."
General G.S. Patton Jr.
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail
armyjunk2
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Sep 22, 2006
Posts: 1416

PostPosted: Sat Jun 02, 2007 7:08 pm
Post subject: Re: Oh good grief....

Do a Google search on M113 Gavin. 947 hits is what I got......
Back to top
View user's profile
Manolo
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 31, 2005
Posts: 41
Location: Milan, Paris centers of fine fashion!
PostPosted: Sat Jun 02, 2007 7:18 pm
Post subject: Re: Oh good grief....

home.comcast.net/~gene...gavin.html

Wink

_________________
The Manolo says, the fashion mania of the poncho, it is now over....
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website Photo Gallery
JimWeb
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 1439
Location: The back of beyond
PostPosted: Sat Jun 02, 2007 7:19 pm
Post subject: Re: Oh good grief....

I am considering getting him on one of my BlogTalkRadio broadcasts but tracking down his actual email address and not one of his many dead-ends is a problem....

At least he would be a sitting target for everyone to quiz as to this mania for calling it the Gggggg - there I cant even say it Wink

Cool

_________________
TTFN
Jim

If your not a member of JED then your
not serious about anything military..

***********************
www.jedsite.info
JED Military Equipment
***********************
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website ICQ Number
Roy_A_Lingle
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 1997
Location: El Paso & Ft Bliss, Texas
PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 2:11 am
Post subject: Re: Oh good grief....

Hi Manolo! Hi Folks!

- Manolo


Out standing web site! Thanks for the link Manolo!

I agree with about 99% of it and tried the "e-mail me" link at the bottom.

The link didn't work and I didn't noticed a name for the individual who did all that great work. Without those two items, I would think it would turn folks off who don't know this story.

To who every did that web site, thank you.

For all you folks who call the M114, the Lingle, I keep waiting for the day some one like Lui Dobbs or FAS.org will use it and I will be able to contact them and tell them it is just an inter-net joke by all the great folks here at AFV News.
Sgt, Scouts Out!

_________________
"You can never have too much reconnaissance."
General G.S. Patton Jr.
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail
Manolo
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 31, 2005
Posts: 41
Location: Milan, Paris centers of fine fashion!
PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 2:27 am
Post subject: Re: Oh good grief....

- Roy_A_Lingle
The link didn't work and I didn't noticed a name for the individual who did all that great work. Without those two items, I would think it would turn folks off who don't know this story.
To who every did that web site, thank you.


63.99.108.76/forums/in...opic=20722

Wink

_________________
The Manolo says, the fashion mania of the poncho, it is now over....
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website Photo Gallery
Roy_A_Lingle
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 1997
Location: El Paso & Ft Bliss, Texas
PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 3:33 am
Post subject: Re: Oh good grief....

Hi Folks!

Well, for what ever good it might do, I just sent CNN news a long winded e-mail about their Senior Pentagon Corresponce's (Jamie McIntyre) miss-use of the G----- name when he was reporting about the M113s.

Spot Report!
Sgt, Scouts Out!

_________________
"You can never have too much reconnaissance."
General G.S. Patton Jr.
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail
Roy_A_Lingle
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 1997
Location: El Paso & Ft Bliss, Texas
PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 8:26 am
Post subject: Re: Oh good grief....

Hey Doug!

Didn't Sparky take down your M60 gun shield picture? If so it's back!



Check out:
www.combatreform2.com/...combat.htm

It's about 1/6 or 1/5 of the way down the page. At least this time he gives you credit for it along with your service on the M551.

Spot Report!
Sgt, Scouts Out!

_________________
"You can never have too much reconnaissance."
General G.S. Patton Jr.
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail
JimWeb
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 1439
Location: The back of beyond
PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 9:15 am
Post subject: Re: Oh good grief....

- Roy_A_Lingle
Hey Doug!

Didn't Sparky take down your M60 gun shield picture? If so it's back!



He uses my images all the time...

Cool

_________________
TTFN
Jim

If your not a member of JED then your
not serious about anything military..

***********************
www.jedsite.info
JED Military Equipment
***********************
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website ICQ Number
bsmart
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 23, 2006
Posts: 2523
Location: Central Maryland
PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 9:50 am
Post subject: Re: Oh good grief....

The guy is like the energizer bunny with diarreha! Mr. Green

_________________
Bob Smart ([email protected])
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail
Doug_Kibbey
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 23, 2006
Posts: 4678
Location: The Great Satan
PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 11:26 am
Post subject: Re: Oh good grief....

- Roy_A_Lingle
Hey Doug!

Didn't Sparky take down your M60 gun shield picture? If so it's back!



Check out:
www.combatreform2.com/...combat.htm

It's about 1/6 or 1/5 of the way down the page. At least this time he gives you credit for it along with your service on the M551.

Spot Report!
Sgt, Scouts Out!


Roy,

I'm not flattered. This, and the way he uses your comments (WAY out of context) is the way he operates. Not having any BTDT experience himself, he uses that of others (without permission) in a lame attempt to add some sort of credibilty to his unsupportable position while appearing to surround himself with the "support" of lots of others who have done the very thing he hasn't, served on armored vehicles and particularly in a combat environment. If he got a bulk mail Christmas card from the Army, I expect it would be represented as a "letter of endorsement" from the Dept. of the Army on the website, somehow.

As your post implies, you recall from the other board that he and I had an agreement that he'd take those pictures down in exchange for my removing screenshots of his abusive emails in reply to my polite request that he do so. Not surprizingly, he has abrogated that agreement and gone back to using my photographs without permission, against my expressed wishes, and in direct apposition to what he said he would do, so in addition to all his other many flaws, he is not a man of his word, either. Big surprize.
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website Photo Gallery
T13b1(be)
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Apr 02, 2006
Posts: 24
Location: belgium
PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 4:14 pm
Post subject: Re: Oh good grief....

Check out:
www.combatreform2.com/...combat.htm

his website isn't even complete in his list off country's that use the gavin is Belgium missing.
But waite off course that's normal we do use the M 113 and not the Gavin. lol Laughing Wink
Back to top
View user's profile
Jim_Coles
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 56

PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 9:20 pm
Post subject: Re: Oh good grief....

- Doug_Kibbey
...

As your post implies, you recall from the other board that he and I had an agreement that he'd take those pictures down in exchange for my removing screenshots of his abusive emails in reply to my polite request that he do so. Not surprizingly, he has abrogated that agreement and gone back to using my photographs without permission, against my expressed wishes, and in direct apposition to what he said he would do, so in addition to all his other many flaws, he is not a man of his word, either. Big surprize.


Have you tried complaining to the Internet Service Provider for his site about his unauthorized use of copyrighted photos? This can often get action, especially with the current emphasis on intellectual property protection.
Back to top
View user's profile
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page    Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board
Page 1 of 2
All times are GMT - 6 Hours
Go to page 1, 2  Next



Jump to:  


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You cannot download files in this forum