±Recent Visitors

Recent Visitors to Com-Central!

±User Info-big


Welcome Anonymous

Nickname
Password

Membership:
Latest: cgsimpson
New Today: 0
New Yesterday: 0
Overall: 6645

People Online:
Members: 0
Visitors: 804
Total: 804
Who Is Where:
 Visitors:
01: Community Forums
02: Community Forums
03: Community Forums
04: Photo Gallery
05: Community Forums
06: Photo Gallery
07: Downloads
08: Community Forums
09: Community Forums
10: Photo Gallery
11: Community Forums
12: Statistics
13: Home
14: Community Forums
15: Photo Gallery
16: Statistics
17: Downloads
18: Community Forums
19: Community Forums
20: Community Forums
21: Community Forums
22: Community Forums
23: Community Forums
24: Community Forums
25: Your Account
26: Community Forums
27: Community Forums
28: Community Forums
29: Photo Gallery
30: Community Forums
31: Community Forums
32: Home
33: News
34: Home
35: Community Forums
36: Photo Gallery
37: Home
38: Community Forums
39: Community Forums
40: Photo Gallery
41: Community Forums
42: Photo Gallery
43: Community Forums
44: Community Forums
45: Community Forums
46: Community Forums
47: Photo Gallery
48: Community Forums
49: Community Forums
50: Community Forums
51: Community Forums
52: Community Forums
53: Community Forums
54: Community Forums
55: Community Forums
56: Community Forums
57: Community Forums
58: Community Forums
59: Community Forums
60: Your Account
61: Photo Gallery
62: Home
63: Community Forums
64: News
65: Community Forums
66: Community Forums
67: Home
68: Community Forums
69: Community Forums
70: Community Forums
71: Community Forums
72: Community Forums
73: Downloads
74: Community Forums
75: Community Forums
76: Home
77: Home
78: Community Forums
79: Community Forums
80: Photo Gallery
81: Member Screenshots
82: Photo Gallery
83: Community Forums
84: Community Forums
85: Community Forums
86: Downloads
87: Home
88: Community Forums
89: Community Forums
90: Community Forums
91: Community Forums
92: Community Forums
93: Community Forums
94: Home
95: Statistics
96: Photo Gallery
97: CPGlang
98: Community Forums
99: Photo Gallery
100: Community Forums
101: Community Forums
102: Community Forums
103: Community Forums
104: Community Forums
105: Home
106: Community Forums
107: Member Screenshots
108: Home
109: Community Forums
110: Community Forums
111: Community Forums
112: Community Forums
113: Your Account
114: Community Forums
115: Photo Gallery
116: Community Forums
117: Community Forums
118: LinkToUs
119: Community Forums
120: Photo Gallery
121: Community Forums
122: CPGlang
123: Community Forums
124: Community Forums
125: Photo Gallery
126: Photo Gallery
127: Home
128: Community Forums
129: Photo Gallery
130: Community Forums
131: Community Forums
132: Statistics
133: Photo Gallery
134: Home
135: Community Forums
136: Community Forums
137: Community Forums
138: Community Forums
139: Community Forums
140: Community Forums
141: Photo Gallery
142: Community Forums
143: Community Forums
144: Member Screenshots
145: Photo Gallery
146: Statistics
147: Community Forums
148: Photo Gallery
149: Home
150: News Archive
151: Member Screenshots
152: Community Forums
153: Community Forums
154: Your Account
155: Community Forums
156: Downloads
157: Community Forums
158: Home
159: Community Forums
160: Community Forums
161: Community Forums
162: Home
163: Home
164: Community Forums
165: Member Screenshots
166: Community Forums
167: News
168: Community Forums
169: Community Forums
170: Community Forums
171: Your Account
172: Your Account
173: Community Forums
174: Community Forums
175: Member Screenshots
176: Home
177: Home
178: Home
179: Community Forums
180: Community Forums
181: Community Forums
182: Photo Gallery
183: Photo Gallery
184: Community Forums
185: Community Forums
186: Community Forums
187: Community Forums
188: Statistics
189: Photo Gallery
190: Photo Gallery
191: Photo Gallery
192: Community Forums
193: Community Forums
194: CPGlang
195: Community Forums
196: Community Forums
197: Community Forums
198: Community Forums
199: Photo Gallery
200: Member Screenshots
201: Photo Gallery
202: Photo Gallery
203: Home
204: Community Forums
205: Community Forums
206: Home
207: Community Forums
208: Community Forums
209: Home
210: Home
211: Community Forums
212: Community Forums
213: Home
214: Community Forums
215: Community Forums
216: Photo Gallery
217: Community Forums
218: Community Forums
219: CPGlang
220: Member Screenshots
221: Community Forums
222: Photo Gallery
223: Home
224: Downloads
225: Community Forums
226: Community Forums
227: Community Forums
228: Home
229: Photo Gallery
230: Community Forums
231: Community Forums
232: Statistics
233: Community Forums
234: Home
235: Photo Gallery
236: Community Forums
237: Community Forums
238: Community Forums
239: Community Forums
240: Community Forums
241: Community Forums
242: Community Forums
243: Photo Gallery
244: Community Forums
245: Community Forums
246: Home
247: Community Forums
248: Photo Gallery
249: Community Forums
250: Community Forums
251: Community Forums
252: Home
253: Community Forums
254: News
255: Community Forums
256: Community Forums
257: Photo Gallery
258: Community Forums
259: Photo Gallery
260: Photo Gallery
261: Community Forums
262: Community Forums
263: Community Forums
264: Downloads
265: Downloads
266: Photo Gallery
267: Community Forums
268: Treasury
269: News Archive
270: Community Forums
271: Photo Gallery
272: Community Forums
273: Community Forums
274: Community Forums
275: Community Forums
276: Community Forums
277: Community Forums
278: Community Forums
279: Community Forums
280: Community Forums
281: Community Forums
282: Community Forums
283: Community Forums
284: CPGlang
285: Community Forums
286: Community Forums
287: Downloads
288: Home
289: Downloads
290: Photo Gallery
291: Photo Gallery
292: Community Forums
293: CPGlang
294: Home
295: Community Forums
296: Community Forums
297: Downloads
298: News
299: Downloads
300: Community Forums
301: Home
302: Community Forums
303: Community Forums
304: Your Account
305: Community Forums
306: Community Forums
307: Your Account
308: Community Forums
309: News
310: Community Forums
311: News
312: Community Forums
313: Community Forums
314: Community Forums
315: Community Forums
316: Photo Gallery
317: Community Forums
318: Community Forums
319: Photo Gallery
320: Community Forums
321: Community Forums
322: Community Forums
323: Community Forums
324: Community Forums
325: Community Forums
326: Community Forums
327: Community Forums
328: Community Forums
329: Home
330: Community Forums
331: Community Forums
332: Community Forums
333: Home
334: Community Forums
335: Home
336: Community Forums
337: Community Forums
338: Community Forums
339: Photo Gallery
340: Home
341: Community Forums
342: Community Forums
343: Community Forums
344: Community Forums
345: Community Forums
346: Community Forums
347: Community Forums
348: Community Forums
349: Community Forums
350: News
351: Community Forums
352: Community Forums
353: CPGlang
354: Community Forums
355: Community Forums
356: Community Forums
357: Community Forums
358: Home
359: Home
360: Community Forums
361: Community Forums
362: Photo Gallery
363: Photo Gallery
364: Community Forums
365: Home
366: Photo Gallery
367: Community Forums
368: Photo Gallery
369: Community Forums
370: Home
371: Community Forums
372: Home
373: Community Forums
374: Community Forums
375: Home
376: Community Forums
377: Member Screenshots
378: Community Forums
379: Home
380: Community Forums
381: Community Forums
382: Community Forums
383: Community Forums
384: Community Forums
385: Downloads
386: Community Forums
387: Community Forums
388: Home
389: Community Forums
390: Home
391: Community Forums
392: Your Account
393: Photo Gallery
394: Community Forums
395: Community Forums
396: Community Forums
397: Community Forums
398: Community Forums
399: Community Forums
400: Community Forums
401: Community Forums
402: Photo Gallery
403: Community Forums
404: Community Forums
405: Downloads
406: Community Forums
407: Community Forums
408: Photo Gallery
409: Community Forums
410: Community Forums
411: Community Forums
412: Photo Gallery
413: Community Forums
414: Community Forums
415: Downloads
416: Home
417: Community Forums
418: Community Forums
419: Photo Gallery
420: Community Forums
421: Community Forums
422: Community Forums
423: Community Forums
424: Photo Gallery
425: Photo Gallery
426: Home
427: Community Forums
428: Community Forums
429: Home
430: Community Forums
431: Community Forums
432: Downloads
433: News
434: Photo Gallery
435: Community Forums
436: Community Forums
437: Home
438: Community Forums
439: Community Forums
440: Community Forums
441: Photo Gallery
442: Community Forums
443: Community Forums
444: Member Screenshots
445: Community Forums
446: Photo Gallery
447: Community Forums
448: Home
449: Photo Gallery
450: Downloads
451: Home
452: Member Screenshots
453: Community Forums
454: Community Forums
455: Community Forums
456: Community Forums
457: Community Forums
458: Community Forums
459: Home
460: Photo Gallery
461: Community Forums
462: Community Forums
463: Photo Gallery
464: Community Forums
465: Community Forums
466: Community Forums
467: Members List
468: Downloads
469: Community Forums
470: Community Forums
471: Community Forums
472: Home
473: Community Forums
474: Community Forums
475: Your Account
476: Community Forums
477: Community Forums
478: Photo Gallery
479: Community Forums
480: Photo Gallery
481: Community Forums
482: Photo Gallery
483: Community Forums
484: Community Forums
485: Community Forums
486: Photo Gallery
487: Home
488: Community Forums
489: Community Forums
490: Your Account
491: Community Forums
492: Community Forums
493: Photo Gallery
494: Community Forums
495: Community Forums
496: Community Forums
497: Community Forums
498: Community Forums
499: Community Forums
500: Statistics
501: Your Account
502: Community Forums
503: Community Forums
504: Community Forums
505: Photo Gallery
506: Photo Gallery
507: Community Forums
508: Community Forums
509: Community Forums
510: Community Forums
511: Community Forums
512: Community Forums
513: Community Forums
514: Home
515: Photo Gallery
516: Community Forums
517: Your Account
518: Community Forums
519: Community Forums
520: Your Account
521: Home
522: Community Forums
523: Home
524: Downloads
525: Community Forums
526: Community Forums
527: Community Forums
528: Photo Gallery
529: Home
530: Community Forums
531: Home
532: Home
533: Community Forums
534: Photo Gallery
535: Community Forums
536: Community Forums
537: Community Forums
538: Community Forums
539: Photo Gallery
540: Photo Gallery
541: Community Forums
542: Photo Gallery
543: Community Forums
544: Community Forums
545: Community Forums
546: Community Forums
547: Photo Gallery
548: Community Forums
549: Community Forums
550: Your Account
551: Your Account
552: Community Forums
553: Photo Gallery
554: Home
555: Downloads
556: Community Forums
557: Community Forums
558: Community Forums
559: Community Forums
560: Member Screenshots
561: Your Account
562: Community Forums
563: Statistics
564: Community Forums
565: Photo Gallery
566: Community Forums
567: Community Forums
568: Community Forums
569: Home
570: Community Forums
571: Community Forums
572: Community Forums
573: Community Forums
574: Community Forums
575: Community Forums
576: Home
577: CPGlang
578: Community Forums
579: Community Forums
580: Photo Gallery
581: Community Forums
582: Community Forums
583: Community Forums
584: Community Forums
585: Community Forums
586: Community Forums
587: Community Forums
588: Photo Gallery
589: Community Forums
590: Community Forums
591: Home
592: Community Forums
593: Community Forums
594: Community Forums
595: Community Forums
596: Community Forums
597: Community Forums
598: Community Forums
599: Community Forums
600: Photo Gallery
601: Home
602: Downloads
603: Community Forums
604: Community Forums
605: Community Forums
606: Photo Gallery
607: Community Forums
608: Home
609: Photo Gallery
610: Community Forums
611: Community Forums
612: Community Forums
613: Community Forums
614: Community Forums
615: Community Forums
616: Community Forums
617: Downloads
618: Downloads
619: Community Forums
620: Community Forums
621: Community Forums
622: Community Forums
623: Contact
624: Photo Gallery
625: Community Forums
626: Community Forums
627: Community Forums
628: Community Forums
629: CPGlang
630: Community Forums
631: Community Forums
632: Photo Gallery
633: Community Forums
634: Community Forums
635: Photo Gallery
636: Community Forums
637: Community Forums
638: Community Forums
639: Community Forums
640: Downloads
641: Home
642: Downloads
643: Photo Gallery
644: Community Forums
645: Community Forums
646: Downloads
647: Photo Gallery
648: Community Forums
649: Community Forums
650: Photo Gallery
651: Community Forums
652: CPGlang
653: Photo Gallery
654: Your Account
655: Community Forums
656: Community Forums
657: Community Forums
658: Your Account
659: Statistics
660: Community Forums
661: Community Forums
662: Community Forums
663: Photo Gallery
664: Community Forums
665: Community Forums
666: Photo Gallery
667: Community Forums
668: Community Forums
669: Community Forums
670: Community Forums
671: Community Forums
672: Your Account
673: Community Forums
674: Community Forums
675: News
676: Community Forums
677: Community Forums
678: Home
679: Photo Gallery
680: Community Forums
681: Community Forums
682: Home
683: Home
684: Photo Gallery
685: Home
686: Photo Gallery
687: Community Forums
688: Community Forums
689: Your Account
690: Photo Gallery
691: Your Account
692: Community Forums
693: Home
694: Community Forums
695: Search
696: Your Account
697: Community Forums
698: Photo Gallery
699: Community Forums
700: CPGlang
701: Community Forums
702: Photo Gallery
703: Community Forums
704: Community Forums
705: Community Forums
706: Photo Gallery
707: Photo Gallery
708: Community Forums
709: Community Forums
710: Your Account
711: Community Forums
712: Community Forums
713: Community Forums
714: Your Account
715: Community Forums
716: Community Forums
717: Community Forums
718: Home
719: Community Forums
720: Community Forums
721: Community Forums
722: Home
723: Community Forums
724: Community Forums
725: Community Forums
726: Home
727: Community Forums
728: Community Forums
729: Home
730: Community Forums
731: Your Account
732: News
733: Community Forums
734: Home
735: Community Forums
736: Home
737: Home
738: Community Forums
739: News Archive
740: Community Forums
741: Community Forums
742: Community Forums
743: Community Forums
744: Community Forums
745: Community Forums
746: Community Forums
747: Photo Gallery
748: Community Forums
749: CPGlang
750: Home
751: Community Forums
752: Home
753: Community Forums
754: Photo Gallery
755: Community Forums
756: Community Forums
757: Downloads
758: Community Forums
759: Photo Gallery
760: Downloads
761: Community Forums
762: Community Forums
763: Photo Gallery
764: Community Forums
765: Community Forums
766: CPGlang
767: Photo Gallery
768: Photo Gallery
769: Community Forums
770: Community Forums
771: Community Forums
772: Home
773: Community Forums
774: Community Forums
775: Community Forums
776: Community Forums
777: Community Forums
778: Community Forums
779: Community Forums
780: Photo Gallery
781: Community Forums
782: Downloads
783: Community Forums
784: Community Forums
785: Community Forums
786: Community Forums
787: Community Forums
788: Community Forums
789: Community Forums
790: Downloads
791: Home
792: Member Screenshots
793: Photo Gallery
794: Photo Gallery
795: Photo Gallery
796: Photo Gallery
797: Community Forums
798: Home
799: Community Forums
800: Photo Gallery
801: Photo Gallery
802: Community Forums
803: Community Forums
804: Community Forums

Staff Online:

No staff members are online!
M109A6 PIM - Bradley based!
The AFV ASSOCIATION was formed in 1964 to support the thoughts and research of all those interested in Armored Fighting Vehicles and related topics, such as AFV drawings. The emphasis has always been on sharing information and communicating with other members of similar interests; e.g. German armor, Japanese AFVs, or whatever.
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page     Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board

View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
Jared
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Oct 09, 2007
Posts: 57
Location: Wherever the army sends me
PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 10:43 am
Post subject: M109A6 PIM - Bradley based!

Back to top
View user's profile
Joe_D
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 29, 2006
Posts: 2066
Location: Razorback Country
PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 12:08 pm
Post subject: Re: M109A6 PIM - Bradley based!

Makes sense to me since the MLRS is also Bradley based.

At least some one has decided the lighter tracked common chassis will be M2 based, I doubt if the heavy will ever be M1, with the exception of the few "Wolverine" AVLB's the M48/M60 series seems to be filling that role and will be for some time with the M88 and older AVLB's. Any theories why??

BTW, that kinda looks like M1A2 T-158 track. Probably explains the outrigger/hull extensions.

Joe D
Back to top
View user's profile Photo Gallery
bsmart
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 23, 2006
Posts: 2523
Location: Central Maryland
PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 1:10 pm
Post subject: Re: M109A6 PIM - Bradley based!

- Joe_D
Makes sense to me since the MLRS is also Bradley based.

At least some one has decided the lighter tracked common chassis will be M2 based, I doubt if the heavy will ever be M1, with the exception of the few "Wolverine" AVLB's the M48/M60 series seems to be filling that role and will be for some time with the M88 and older AVLB's. Any theories why??


$$$$$$$$$$$$

Remember it wasn't long ago when the statements were made that heavy forces were a thing of the past. Since heavy forces were dead why spend any money on next generation support vehicles based on the latest tank. Just have the older designs soldier on. After all they are all going to be retired soon. After all heavy forces are a thing of the past

But then things changed. But now the need is immediate and there is no time to develop new systems based on a newer chassis. Just do the minimum neccesary to make the old ones work. Oh and because operational costs are up there is no money for developing anything that can't be deployed right away

_________________
Bob Smart ([email protected])
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail
MarkHolloway
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Apr 08, 2006
Posts: 2054
Location: Beatty, Nevada
PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 2:01 pm
Post subject: Re: M109A6 PIM - Bradley based!

That track must me similar to the new double-pin track they developed for the M113 FOV.

_________________
"TUMBLEWEED"
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Photo Gallery
Doug_Kibbey
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 23, 2006
Posts: 4678
Location: The Great Satan
PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 2:23 pm
Post subject: Re: M109A6 PIM - Bradley based!

- bsmart
After all heavy forces are a thing of the past



The tank is dead, Bob..has been for quite some time...don't tell me you're only now getting the memo?! Laughing
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website Photo Gallery
Dontos
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 3436
Location: Vine Grove, KY
PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 4:27 am
Post subject: Re: M109A6 PIM - Bradley based!

- Joe_D
Makes sense to me since the MLRS is also Bradley based.

At least some one has decided the lighter tracked common chassis will be M2 based, I doubt if the heavy will ever be M1, with the exception of the few "Wolverine" AVLB's the M48/M60 series seems to be filling that role and will be for some time with the M88 and older AVLB's. Any theories why??

BTW, that kinda looks like M1A2 T-158 track. Probably explains the outrigger/hull extensions.

Joe D


Yeah but T-158 unsupported?? (ie no support rollers...ouch!!)

I hope this is a spin-off (lighter weight) of the T-158.

Don
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Visit poster's website AIM Address Yahoo Messenger Photo Gallery
Joe_D
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 29, 2006
Posts: 2066
Location: Razorback Country
PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 11:01 am
Post subject: Re: M109A6 PIM - Bradley based!

Don,

I know what you mean, I'm sure if it is it's the later (lighter) T158, If you look closely you can just make out the hollow center guides.

Bob,

$$$$$$$ is one main reason but another is that turbine, I'm sure it's one of the less quoted reasons why the M88 was upgraded instead of going with the M1 based version similar to the Leopard series. Can't be out recovering tanks when you gotta run in all the time for fuel. Those recovery guys log some serious miles. Besides, that's money too, especially now with oil almost 100 bucks a barrel.

Doug,

Noooooo !!!!! Never !!!!!!!!! , it's the turbine that's dead.

Joe D
Back to top
View user's profile Photo Gallery
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page    Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board
Page 1 of 1
All times are GMT - 6 Hours



Jump to:  


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You cannot download files in this forum