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Thanks Don.

Can you also help confirm whether the following are still in place, moved or in storage?

M4A3E8 Sherman at the Abrams Center

M24 Chaffee at Brick Mess

M60A1 RISE at Skidgell Hall

M60A3 at Sadowski Field House

M60A3 at Crecy Hall

Oh yeah, and is there now an LVTP5 in Richardson MP? I came across these pictures, but had never seen or heard of an LVTP5 at Knox...
svsm.org/gallery/lvtp5

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[quote="Neil_Baumgardner"]Thanks Don.

Can you also help confirm whether the following are still in place, moved or in storage?


M4A3E8 Sherman at the Abrams Center


>Gone to RMP<


M24 Chaffee at Brick Mess


>Gone to RMP<


M60A1 RISE at Skidgell Hall


>Yes, its still there<


M60A3 at Sadowski Field House


>Yes, its still there< SN:2118A RN:JJ04J9


M60A3 at Crecy Hall


>Gone to RMP<


Oh yeah, and is there now an LVTP5 in Richardson MP? I came across these pictures, but had never seen or heard of an LVTP5 at Knox...


THAT HUNK OF JUNK!! Mr. Green Yeah its in RMP. It arrived along with 1 M26 & The Sherman T6. Came as a package deal from Quantico several years ago.

This is updated for everything around post:

Armored Ghosts on Google Maps


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Don,
Many thanks again.

I'm also re-checking my M60 listings for Knox, it seems I have a few too many M60A1s. So I'm trying to match up SNs with RNs if thats possible...

I have the following SNs without RNs:
867 (in storage?)
4284 (in storage?)
5106 (Patton Museum)
8587 (Brandenburg Gate)
9349 (Copple Center)

I have the following RNs without SNs:
9B4668
9B8957
9A12771 (LST Bldg)
JJ010G
JJ00ZW

Any info your or Joe D may have would be very welcome.

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Similar question for the following M60A3 SNs, do either line up to the vehicle formerly at Crecy Hall?:

2394A
3854A

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[quote="Neil_Baumgardner"]Don,
Many thanks again.

I'm also re-checking my M60 listings for Knox, it seems I have a few too many M60A1s. So I'm trying to match up SNs with RNs if thats possible...

I have the following SNs without RNs:
867 (in storage?)

4284 (in storage?)


5106 (Patton Museum)

RN:09BC466


8587 (Brandenburg Gate)

Yes but no RN

9349 (Copple Center)


Yes, but no RN

I have the following RNs without SNs:
9B4668
9B8957
9A12771 (LST Bldg)


Yes, but no SN


JJ010G
JJ00ZW

Any info your or Joe D may have would be very welcome.

Neil


M60A1 (rise)
SN: 6241 RN: 09A05172 on Wilson rd (Disney Barracks)
SN: 6346 RN: 09A09872 (Quinn Hall)
SN: 9357 RN: JJOOZZ (Keyes Park)

Joe D will have the rest I'm sure.

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- Neil_Baumgardner
Similar question for the following M60A3 SNs, do either line up to the vehicle formerly at Crecy Hall?:

2394A


No Clue


3854A


Its in RMP NOW
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Don,
Thanks for the info on the Patton Museum tank - already got the Disney, Quinn & Keyes Park tanks covered. Just trying to match up errant SNs with RNs so I can hopefully eliminate some presumed double-listings...

Maybe Joe will have some info...

Thanks again!

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SUNDAY 8 MARCH (Updated):

maps.google.com/maps/m...6&t=h&z=14

(Added SN / RN data for several vehicles in the 'ON POST' catagory)

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Nice work, Dontos.

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Thanks Trevor. Its a constant work inprogress, but trying to keep up to date.

Neil. Update for today. M110A1 & M60 at KY MAITS have been moved. I'm not sure where they are.

I believe they are getting fresh paint, but will have to confirm this. Unknown if they'll be put back on the empty 'slabs'.

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Neil,

This is my listing of M60 series at Knox. All can be verified by pictures unless in italics.

M60 SN 09B3695 RMP

M60A1 SN 3078, RN 9B7257 Skidgell Hall
M60A1 SN 5106, RN 09B04668 Inside Museum
M60A1 SN 6241, RN 09A05172 Brave Rifles and Wilson Road
M60A1 SN 6346, RN 09A09872 Quinn Hall
M60A1 SN 7109, RN 399630 USMC Detachment
M60A1 SN 8587, RN JJ010G Brandenburg Station Road Gate
M60A1 SN 8679, RN JJ00XV was Burger King, now RMP
M60A1 SN 8692, RN JJ01JR HWY 31 West Point (Belongs to museum)
M60A1 SN 9349, RN unknown Copple Center
M60A1 SN 9357, RN JJ00ZZ, Keys Park
M60A1 SN unknown, RN 09A12771 LST building
M60A1 SN unknown, RN 09B8957 RMP?
M60A1 SN unknown, RN JJ00ZW RMP?

M60A2 SN 4666, RN JK007B RMP
M60A3 SN 836, RN JJ03QD was Crecy Hall
M60A3 SN 837, RN JJ03QA RMP
M60A3 SN 2004A, RN JJ0457 Brandenburg Station Road Gate
M60A3 SN 2278A, RN JJ04D9 MATES Building 2858
M60A3 SN 2304A, JJ04GP RMP
M60A3 SN 2394A, JJ040P RMP was at 16th CAV HQ, RMP
M60A3 SN 2448A, JJ04J9 Sadowski Field House
M60A3 SN 3621A, JJ009C LST Building
M60A3 SN 3854A, RN 09B13769 was at 16th CAV HQ, RMP
M728 SN 53, RN 09B8526 RMP

M48A5E1 SN 4494, RN JK001F, RMP
This tank is easily mistaken for an M60 since it uses the M60A2 hull and has an M48A5 turret. the cupola is usually not seen when covered. I believe this could be your other M60, since SN 4284 should be an M60A1.

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Neil,

M48A5E1 SN 4494, RN JK001F, RMP
This tank is easily mistaken for an M60 since it uses the M60A2 hull and has an M48A5 turret. the cupola is usually not seen when covered. I believe this could be your other M60, since SN 4284 should be an M60A1.


Anyone got any images of this one?

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Neil,

M48A5E1 SN 4494, RN JK001F, RMP
This tank is easily mistaken for an M60 since it uses the M60A2 hull and has an M48A5 turret. the cupola is usually not seen when covered. I believe this could be your other M60, since SN 4284 should be an M60A1.


Anyone got any images of this one?


This is pretty much it....



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M48A5E1 SN 4494, RN JK001F, RMP
This tank is easily mistaken for an M60 since it uses the M60A2 hull and has an M48A5 turret. the cupola is usually not seen when covered. I believe this could be your other M60, since SN 4284 should be an M60A1.


I'm confused

Why would it be considered an M48A5 if it started with an M60A2 hull? I thought the M48A5 program upgraded M48 tanks to have a 105mm gun and make them an M60 equivalent.

It sounds like this is just a 'frankentank' similar to the M48A1 with a M60A2 turret thrown on it. Or did someone really plan to put upgraded M48 turrets on M60A2 hulls and use them?

I don't know about anyone else but if it doesn't have a rounded front hull it ain't an M48 to me Mr. Green

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My images aren't much better Jim,

A good description is put an M48A5 turret with low profile cupola (Urdan style) on an M60A2 hull. It's a one of a kind tank.

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