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#1: If you thought the Chinese digicamo pattern looked bad... Author: Neil_Baumgardner, Location: Arlington, VA

Posted: Mon May 10, 2010 8:21 pm
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An Indian T-90S

Neil

#2: Re: If you thought the Chinese digicamo pattern looked bad.. Author: the_shadock, Location: Normandy, France

Posted: Mon May 10, 2010 8:39 pm
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I like that pattern, but think it's quite a challenge to reproduce it on a 1/35 model..*

P-O

#3: Re: If you thought the Chinese digicamo pattern looked bad.. Author: Michel_Krauss, Location: Zuid-Holland, The Netherlands

Posted: Mon May 10, 2010 8:40 pm
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This may be an stupid question....

However I'm allowed because I'm an civilian, with no military experience Mr. Green

Is this digit camo pattern serious Confused

I can not imagine that this is better then the old style patches, stripes and dots with-out the 90 degree corners Neutral

Michel

#4: Re: If you thought the Chinese digicamo pattern looked bad.. Author: JG300-Ascout, Location: Cyberspace

Posted: Mon May 10, 2010 8:45 pm
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It's a conspiracy against armor modelers everywhere, I tell ya'...and an outrage!

Here's something I didn't know...dates in U.S. Army to the late '70's experimentally:

www.uniteddynamics.com/dualtex/

Don might know something about this. Camo on vehicles was something we tested at the Armor Board in the early '70's, but digital was not among them.

#5: Re: If you thought the Chinese digicamo pattern looked bad.. Author: Dontos, Location: Vine Grove, KY

Posted: Tue May 11, 2010 10:54 am
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- JG300-Ascout

Don might know something about this. Camo on vehicles was something we tested at the Armor Board in the early '70's, but digital was not among them.

HUH ??

The only thing close to that was the 'urban camo' scheme the I believe the 'Berlin Bde' tested sometime in the 70's.

Regards
Don

#6: Re: If you thought the Chinese digicamo pattern looked bad.. Author: the_shadock, Location: Normandy, France

Posted: Tue May 11, 2010 12:48 pm
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http://www.museedesblindes.fr/spip.php?article47

#7: Re: If you thought the Chinese digicamo pattern looked bad... Author: Joe_D, Location: Razorback Country

Posted: Tue May 11, 2010 2:01 pm
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US Army in Europe tested it for a while in the 70's on select units.

Idea is it helps camouflage vehicles/personnel from electronic optics (FLIR/Image intensification). One key aspect is the exemption of Black. From what I understand, black is more detectable on a moving object than any other color, being it doesn't reflect any light and creates a void in the color spectrum. Same theory bounced around when coming up with a way to defeat Laser Range Finders. No reflection, no range. People a lot smarter than me could probably explain all this (Quantum Physics and all Confused

) but it supposedly works when done right.

My argument has always been that it's useless in the field once your covered in dirt/mud/dust and have the plethora of equipment and kit strapped outside. As far as dismounts go, a "Gilly suit" has always been the best for remaining unseen. But that's a bit extreme Mr. Green

#8: Re: If you thought the Chinese digicamo pattern looked bad.. Author: JeffStringer,

Posted: Tue May 11, 2010 3:22 pm
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Just when you think you've "Maned-Up" enough to tackle the Chieftain camo pattern, this comes along. Confused

- Jeff

#9: Re: If you thought the Chinese digicamo pattern looked bad... Author: bsmart, Location: Central Maryland

Posted: Tue May 11, 2010 4:43 pm
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I wonder how this is applied. Is it painted directly on the vehicle? Or is it some kind of sheet printed overlay (similar to the 'bodywrap' full vehicle advertising I see on the street these days.

#10: Re: If you thought the Chinese digicamo pattern looked bad... Author: SHAWN,

Posted: Tue May 11, 2010 8:47 pm
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I dont care for that nasty green... I dont care for any of the digi camo anyway. The theories have all been done before, same horse just of a different color! ha!

The more things change the more they stay the same.

I think much the same as JoeD's comments. In a perfect world and in lab conditions everything will always work.

It all sounds good to some loving general somewhere. (like berets with no-polish boots??)
Shawn

#11: Re: If you thought the Chinese digicamo pattern looked bad... Author: Joe_D, Location: Razorback Country

Posted: Tue May 11, 2010 10:55 pm
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You had to bring up Berets,

I was at Riley when we got issued them (Months after the OFFICIAL issue, we were always near the bottom to get things). Told a lot of my troops how miserable they'd be wearing a BLACK piece of wool on their head in the summer. Was asked how I knew and told them I wore one in the Mojave for two years. Give me the good old soft cap or now called "Patrol Cap" any time.

#12: Re: If you thought the Chinese digicamo pattern looked bad.. Author: ChrisC,

Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 12:36 am
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I did an article on the "Dual-Tex" pattern the US tested in the 80's. It was printed in the April 2008 issue of Military Vehicle Magazine.
The pattern was tested at West Point, I have read the test reports and cover them in the article.
If you are unable to locate this back issue of the magazine and are interested, I have a digital copy in my files someplace.

#13: Re: If you thought the Chinese digicamo pattern looked bad.. Author: piney, Location: Republic of Southern New Jersey

Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 3:51 am
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I think the problem is scale. Those elements are so large that they lose effect. Here is a shot of a Hummer in a vinyl wrap that appears a lot more effective (but an even bigger nightmare for modelers)

#14: Re: If you thought the Chinese digicamo pattern looked bad... Author: recceboy, Location: Edmonton,Alberta

Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 4:20 am
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- Neil_Baumgardner

An Indian T-90S

Neil

Bad case of a TETRIS game gone wrong, Tetris tank......

Anthony

#15: Re: If you thought the Chinese digicamo pattern looked bad.. Author: WimD., Location: The Netherlands

Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 1:07 pm
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Hi,

Leopard 2 PSO

Digicamo pattern or urban camo?

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