Preserved Tanks in the Netherlands
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#61: Re: Preserved Tanks in the Netherlands Author: TrevorLarkumLocation: Northampton, England PostPosted: Wed Jun 15, 2011 9:12 pm
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I only got one picture of the running T34 so thanks to Michel for the additional exterior shots and Lesley for the interior shots:

Unique ID 1726: Overloon T-34-85M




Lesley, do you have any comment on this number?




Does anyone have pictures of it running at Militracks? Tim?

#62: Re: Preserved Tanks in the Netherlands Author: Michel_KraussLocation: Zuid-Holland, The Netherlands PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2011 9:00 pm
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I only have 2 short movie clips, about 2 1/2 minutes in total and only 4 photo's

Michel

#63: Re: Preserved Tanks in the Netherlands Author: WalterLocation: Arnhem PostPosted: Fri Jun 17, 2011 12:13 am
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Trevor

I have sended you some by mail.

Walter

#64: Re: Preserved Tanks in the Netherlands Author: L.Delsing PostPosted: Sun Jun 19, 2011 8:07 am
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For this one I have s/n 47229 which was on the ''normal'' place on the glacis plate. The meaning of the painted number I don't know.

Regards,
Lesley

#65: Re: Preserved Tanks in the Netherlands Author: TrevorLarkumLocation: Northampton, England PostPosted: Sun Jun 19, 2011 9:17 pm
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A catch up of photo's I've been sent - thanks, guys!


Close ups of Centurion markings (from Michel and Lesley):

Unique ID 1724: Overloon Centurion




Sherman 'After Hitler' engine (from Michel):

Unique ID 1699: Overloon M4




Close ups of Leopard, M47, M109 and M110 markings (from Michel):

Unique ID 1707: Overloon Leopard




Unique ID 1717: Overloon M47




Unique ID 1719: Overloon M109




Unique ID 1720: Overloon M110




New photo's of the running T34 during Militracks (from Walter and Michel):

Unique ID 1726: Overloon T-34-85M


#66: Re: Preserved Tanks in the Netherlands Author: TrevorLarkumLocation: Northampton, England PostPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 9:27 pm
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The last Soviet vehicle (my photo's and Michel's):

Unique ID 1725: Overloon IS-2m


#67: Re: Preserved Tanks in the Netherlands Author: TrevorLarkumLocation: Northampton, England PostPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 10:25 pm
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Now some vehicles I didn't get to see during my recent trip. First the Valentine Bridgelayer (with pictures from Tim):


Unique ID 25: Overloon Valentine Bridgelayer


#68: Re: Preserved Tanks in the Netherlands Author: L.Delsing PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 11:17 am
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Had an unexpected visit in the storage hangar of the Army museum at the former Soesterberg air base.No public acces since part of the former air base is still active military.

The following was noted;

AMX-13Au F3 r/n KN-70-14
Archer 17pdr r/n 20298
Centurion mk.5 w/20pdr r/n KX-10-85, found a number which was ''hull 157/150). This tank is a former Oirschot monument.
Dingo mk.2
DUKW 353 r/n 701548290 (former British, not part of the batch of 16 whic were on the inventory lists of the army)
Ferret mk.2 r/n KN-31-24, s/n 00-DA-52
FT17 (no s/n plate fount, it was in a German c/s when re-captured)
Leopard 1V s/n 8559 r/n KU-90-46 (r/n painted over)
Leopard 1V s/n 8767 r/n KU-91-65 (former A-coy, 49th tankbattalion, tact nr. ''20'' (parknummer))
M22 Locust
M29C Weasel s/n M29C-2516
M109A2/90 s/n 5287 (former A-coy, 14th Mech Art Bat wit tact nr ''224'' (parknummer))
M110A2 s/n 1411 r/n KZ-87-65. This vehicle was delivered in 1982
M113C&V s/n CR1-115
M139D w/Honest John missile s/n M139C0012
M577 (r/n KZ-76-02?)
M578 r/n KZ-77-05 s/n BMY1186
M668 Crane vehicle r/n KN-44-27
M752 Launch vehicle r/n KN-69-94 (former B-coy, 129th Rocket Art Bat)
Mineflail vehicle r/n KR-32-13 (former Reek???)
MLRS US Army, not a former NLD vehicle
PRTL s/n 35566 (PRTL prototype/pre-serie, the serie production vehicles have more space between the 3rd an 4th roadwheel)
Schwimmwagen Type 166 s/n 37796, Volkswagen nr 17877
T17E1
YP-408 (chassis only, for instructional purposes)
YP-408PWCO r/n KN-89-94, former support coy, 13th inf bat/brig
YP-408PWGWT r/n KN-90-46
YPR-765PRCO r/n KY-63-08 s/n NL1572DAF (painted in a white UNPROFOR c/s. Vehicle was used to train soldiers which went to Bosnia and is not actually used in Bosnia)

Also some artillery which I post in the artillery forum

#69: Re: Preserved Tanks in the Netherlands Author: Michel_KraussLocation: Zuid-Holland, The Netherlands PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 5:53 pm
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Thanks for the information

About all vehicles are part of the collection of the National Military Museum Delft and are listed at the musuem website.
www.collectie.legermus...08237.html

Except for the ones listed below

- L.Delsing

Centurion mk.5 w/20pdr r/n KX-10-85, found a number which was ''hull 157/150). This tank is a former Oirschot monument.
Leopard 1V s/n 8559 r/n KU-90-46 (r/n painted over)
Leopard 1V s/n 8767 r/n KU-91-65 (former A-coy, 49th tankbattalion, tact nr. ''20'' (parknummer))
M668 Crane vehicle r/n KN-44-27
MLRS US Army, not a former NLD vehicle
YPR-765PRCO r/n KY-63-08 s/n NL1572DAF (painted in a white UNPROFOR c/s. Vehicle was used to train soldiers which went to Bosnia and is not actually used in Bosnia)


Especialy the MLRS is interresting, because there where no surviving MLRS known in NLD (no matter where they came from)

The R/N of the M577 can be confirmed to be KZ-76-02.
Last know storage location was at Maaldrift depot, 330 Material Maint.Plt
www.military-vehicle-p...er1088.asp

Michel

#70: Re: Preserved Tanks in the Netherlands Author: Michel_KraussLocation: Zuid-Holland, The Netherlands PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 6:03 pm
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Trevor,

I will send you a bunch of photo's of the FT17, the Crusader gun tractor



and the Valentine Bridge



Michel

#71: Re: Preserved Tanks in the Netherlands Author: TrevorLarkumLocation: Northampton, England PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 8:10 pm
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Unique ID 1726: Overloon T-34-85M



- L.Delsing
For this one I have s/n 47229 which was on the ''normal'' place on the glacis plate. The meaning of the painted number I don't know.

Regards,
Lesley


Thanks for the serial number - I've updated the entry. Also, with the help of Word's Cyrillic character set and the google translate website I worked out that the writing simply means "Fuel".


- L.Delsing
Had an unexpected visit in the storage hangar of the Army museum at the former Soesterberg air base.No public acces since part of the former air base is still active military.

The following was noted;

AMX-13Au F3 r/n KN-70-14
...


Noted, for when I get to write up Soesterberg.


On to the last few vehicles at Overloon:

Unique ID 143: Overloon Crusader Gun Tractor




Unique ID 211: Overloon Renault FT




- Michel_Krauss
Trevor,

I will send you a bunch of photo's of the FT17, the Crusader gun tractor and the Valentine Bridge


Thank you!

#72: Re: Preserved Tanks in the Netherlands Author: TrevorLarkumLocation: Northampton, England PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 9:39 pm
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Now with Michel's photos:


Unique ID 25: Overloon Valentine Bridgelayer




Michel - two of those photos (at the bottom of the page) didn't have dates in them - do you have a date for them?

#73: Re: Preserved Tanks in the Netherlands Author: Michel_KraussLocation: Zuid-Holland, The Netherlands PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 4:35 pm
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Trevor,

the last 2 are dated 2006-04-24

For some reason most of the photo's of that day don't have a date stamp, however there are some that have a date Wink

Michel

#74: Re: Preserved Tanks in the Netherlands Author: TrevorLarkumLocation: Northampton, England PostPosted: Sat Jun 25, 2011 1:12 pm
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- Michel_Krauss
the last 2 are dated 2006-04-24

For some reason most of the photo's of that day don't have a date stamp, however there are some that have a date :wink:


Thanks, updated. I've added the pictures for the other two vehicles as well - the broad range of dates for the Renault FT give it a particularly nice 'time machine' view:


Unique ID 143: Overloon Crusader Gun Tractor




Unique ID 211: Overloon Renault FT




I wonder why I didn't see these vehicles when I visited - were they not on display, or did I just miss them (I didn't manage to visit every part of the museum)?
Also, Michel, your Netherlands Register lists an M4A1 as a monument in the museum park - can you tell me more and provide photos?

#75: Re: Preserved Tanks in the Netherlands Author: Pzkpfw-e PostPosted: Sat Jun 25, 2011 4:40 pm
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This may be the FT17 in Dutch service.

www.volkskrant.nl/vk/n...erne.dhtml


www.twenot-forums.nl/v...mp;t=22535




As found by the British? Same forum as above)

Several of it on trials, August 1927 on this forum.
forum.fok.nl/topic/1633563/1/999



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