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#1: German artillery piece id Author: Pzkpfw-e PostPosted: Mon Jul 25, 2011 3:04 pm
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Labelled as a "captured rocket gun"
theirishinamerica.com/...-soldiers/
Doesn't look very much like a rocket launcher to me, more like an elderly coastal defence piece that's been given wheels.

#2: Re: German artillery piece id Author: howitzerLocation: Kolín, Czech Republic PostPosted: Mon Jul 25, 2011 8:32 pm
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It is a gun carriage German 21 cm cannon K 39/40. Missing Barrel was transported to a separate vehicle. In 1941 factory Škoda produced 20 weapons of this type.
Jan

#3: Re: German artillery piece id Author: Massimo_FotiLocation: Lugano, Switzerland PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2011 4:56 pm
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It's clearly not the complete gun. The barrel was on a separated load.

I have to double check (I am away from home) but maybe a 21 cm K 39/40 is in Sinsheim

Massimo

#4: Re: German artillery piece id Author: JiriTinteraLocation: Prague, Czech Republic PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2011 9:42 pm
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Dear Colleagues,
One piece is exhibited in Sweden: Beredskapsmuseet, Djuramossa.

Swedish Army designation: 21 cm kanon m/42

Situation after reconstruction in 2005


It is now located in a roofed hall

#5: Re: German artillery piece id Author: Pzkpfw-e PostPosted: Wed Jul 27, 2011 9:19 am
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Marvelous!
Doesn't look as if it was designed for mobility.

#6: Re: German artillery piece id Author: JiriTinteraLocation: Prague, Czech Republic PostPosted: Wed Jul 27, 2011 12:37 pm
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Swedish website Kustartilleriet states:

"Transport
Pjäsen delades tre enheter vid and transportation. Underlavett (Baddi) (14 tonnes), överlavett (16 tonnes) samt eldrör (17 tonnes). Ursprungligen drogs enheterna and dragterrängbil m/42, Avena kallad TVC och från 1948 and dragterrängbil 954 Brockway. "

For transport was divided into three units:
- gun-barrel on trailer (17 ton)
- gun-carriage on trailer (16 ton)
- firing platform on trailer (14 ton)

By 1948, used artillery tractors m/42, after Brockway type 954.

Artillery trailers has not been preserved.

Source
kustartilleriet.gearhe...2_gun.html

#7: Re: German artillery piece id Author: howitzerLocation: Kolín, Czech Republic PostPosted: Wed Jul 27, 2011 6:37 pm
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Skoda 21 cm cannon V was developed in the late thirties to Turkey, which was finally delivered. It was produced in total in five versions: V, VX,V1, V2, V3. Wehrmacht was delivered a total of 58 pieces, most in the V2 version. 9 pieces of type V2 Sweden received. In the Soviet Union was made under license nine cannons VX, marked here Br - 17. All version guns transported in three units: gun barrel, gun carriage and firing platform.



V , VX , V1 , V2 , V3

Muzle velocity m/sec
800 800 800 800 895
Weight in action kg
37000 45000 37000 37000 39750
Maximum range m
29925 29925 29925 29925 33000
Weight gun barrel trailer
16000 20140 16200 16200 17600
Weight gun carriage trailer
15600 21570 16400 16400 17000
Weight fir. platform trailer
16600 21800 16600 17500 18500

Source: Dr Vladimír Kupka/ Vladimír Francev - Kanony rady V - Strelecká revue 8/2008
SOA Plzen

#8: Re: German artillery piece id Author: JiriTinteraLocation: Prague, Czech Republic PostPosted: Wed Jul 27, 2011 8:31 pm
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Swedish artillery tractors for the 21 cm kanon m/42

Dragterrängbil m/42 953B - 6x6, Volvo's product, the model TVC



Dragterrängbil 954 - 6x6, a product of Brockway, model B666



Source
kustartilleriet.gearhe.../cars.html
steo.se/military/brock...il_963.htm
www.indiandefence.com/...dex12.html

#9: Re: German artillery piece id Author: Massimo_FotiLocation: Lugano, Switzerland PostPosted: Sun Jul 31, 2011 2:13 am
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This 21 cm gun is in Sinsheim, what model is it?

Massimo

#10: Re: German artillery piece id Author: JiriTinteraLocation: Prague, Czech Republic PostPosted: Sun Jul 31, 2011 12:09 pm
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Dear colleague,
weapon on display in the museum is not complete. Missing parts Replaced with dummy barrel & breech. Determine the type of weapon with Extremely Difficult, perhaps only to the manufacturing label. That Francev colleague says this is a prototype of the Skoda V2 (K39/41). Photographs from 2005-2007 Sinsheim have the figures "M40" (Skoda V1, K39/40).

#11: Re: German artillery piece id Author: Massimo_FotiLocation: Lugano, Switzerland PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 5:25 pm
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There is another one in Sinsheim. Again, dummy breech and gun tube. The Museum says it's a 21 cm Skoda M40.
I don't even trust them on the caliber, it could be 24 cm instead... I would love to hear any feedback on it.

Massimo

#12: Re: German artillery piece id Author: JiriTinteraLocation: Prague, Czech Republic PostPosted: Wed Aug 03, 2011 2:35 pm
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Dear Colleague,
older replica gun barrel was very thin! Perhaps was made from a lamppost. The current replica gun barrel follows the original dimensions. The chassis construction is not a school Skoda. Surely it is a kind of folk creativity of Sinsheim.


#13: Re: German artillery piece id Author: howitzerLocation: Kolín, Czech Republic PostPosted: Wed Aug 03, 2011 7:40 pm
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21 cm V1( 39/40)
I believe that photography could be a gun carriage V3. Two guns deployed in 1945 in Alsace. The details vary from carriages V1 and V2.


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#14: Re: German artillery piece id Author: howitzerLocation: Kolín, Czech Republic PostPosted: Wed Aug 03, 2011 7:43 pm
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21 cm V2 ( 39/41)

#15: Re: German artillery piece id Author: Massimo_FotiLocation: Lugano, Switzerland PostPosted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 8:51 am
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Thanks for the info!

Massimo



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