±Recent Visitors

Recent Visitors to Com-Central!

±User Info-big


Welcome Anonymous

Nickname
Password

Membership:
Latest: cgsimpson
New Today: 0
New Yesterday: 0
Overall: 6645

People Online:
Members: 0
Visitors: 598
Total: 598
Who Is Where:
 Visitors:
01: Community Forums
02: Downloads
03: Member Screenshots
04: Downloads
05: Community Forums
06: Home
07: Photo Gallery
08: Community Forums
09: Community Forums
10: Community Forums
11: Community Forums
12: Community Forums
13: Community Forums
14: Photo Gallery
15: Photo Gallery
16: Community Forums
17: Community Forums
18: Community Forums
19: Member Screenshots
20: Community Forums
21: Downloads
22: Community Forums
23: Community Forums
24: Community Forums
25: Community Forums
26: Community Forums
27: Community Forums
28: Photo Gallery
29: Home
30: Community Forums
31: Downloads
32: Community Forums
33: Photo Gallery
34: Community Forums
35: Community Forums
36: Community Forums
37: Community Forums
38: Community Forums
39: Community Forums
40: Community Forums
41: Photo Gallery
42: Downloads
43: Community Forums
44: Community Forums
45: Your Account
46: Photo Gallery
47: Community Forums
48: Community Forums
49: Photo Gallery
50: Downloads
51: Community Forums
52: Community Forums
53: News Archive
54: Community Forums
55: Community Forums
56: Photo Gallery
57: Community Forums
58: Community Forums
59: CPGlang
60: Community Forums
61: Community Forums
62: Community Forums
63: Community Forums
64: News Archive
65: Photo Gallery
66: Downloads
67: Community Forums
68: Community Forums
69: Community Forums
70: Community Forums
71: Community Forums
72: Community Forums
73: Community Forums
74: Community Forums
75: Downloads
76: Community Forums
77: CPGlang
78: Photo Gallery
79: Community Forums
80: Home
81: Downloads
82: Downloads
83: Photo Gallery
84: Community Forums
85: Community Forums
86: Community Forums
87: Community Forums
88: Community Forums
89: Community Forums
90: Community Forums
91: Community Forums
92: Community Forums
93: Community Forums
94: Photo Gallery
95: Photo Gallery
96: Community Forums
97: Community Forums
98: Community Forums
99: Community Forums
100: Community Forums
101: Community Forums
102: Member Screenshots
103: Photo Gallery
104: Community Forums
105: Community Forums
106: Community Forums
107: Community Forums
108: Home
109: Photo Gallery
110: Home
111: Community Forums
112: Community Forums
113: Your Account
114: Community Forums
115: Home
116: Your Account
117: Community Forums
118: CPGlang
119: Home
120: Photo Gallery
121: Home
122: Community Forums
123: Community Forums
124: Home
125: Community Forums
126: Community Forums
127: Community Forums
128: Community Forums
129: Your Account
130: Home
131: Community Forums
132: Community Forums
133: Community Forums
134: Home
135: Home
136: Community Forums
137: CPGlang
138: Community Forums
139: Photo Gallery
140: Community Forums
141: Community Forums
142: Community Forums
143: Community Forums
144: Community Forums
145: Community Forums
146: Community Forums
147: Community Forums
148: Community Forums
149: Home
150: Home
151: Community Forums
152: Community Forums
153: Community Forums
154: Community Forums
155: Community Forums
156: Home
157: Home
158: Member Screenshots
159: CPGlang
160: Your Account
161: Community Forums
162: Statistics
163: Downloads
164: Community Forums
165: Photo Gallery
166: Photo Gallery
167: Member Screenshots
168: Community Forums
169: Photo Gallery
170: Photo Gallery
171: Community Forums
172: Community Forums
173: Community Forums
174: Downloads
175: Community Forums
176: Community Forums
177: Home
178: Home
179: Home
180: Community Forums
181: Photo Gallery
182: Community Forums
183: Community Forums
184: Community Forums
185: Community Forums
186: Community Forums
187: Community Forums
188: Community Forums
189: Photo Gallery
190: Community Forums
191: Community Forums
192: Photo Gallery
193: Community Forums
194: Community Forums
195: Community Forums
196: Home
197: Community Forums
198: Statistics
199: Community Forums
200: Community Forums
201: Community Forums
202: Community Forums
203: Community Forums
204: Community Forums
205: Member Screenshots
206: Downloads
207: Community Forums
208: Community Forums
209: Community Forums
210: Community Forums
211: Community Forums
212: Community Forums
213: Community Forums
214: Community Forums
215: Your Account
216: Your Account
217: Community Forums
218: Downloads
219: Community Forums
220: Community Forums
221: Community Forums
222: Home
223: Community Forums
224: Photo Gallery
225: Downloads
226: Community Forums
227: Home
228: Photo Gallery
229: Community Forums
230: CPGlang
231: Community Forums
232: Community Forums
233: Photo Gallery
234: Community Forums
235: Home
236: Community Forums
237: Community Forums
238: Home
239: Community Forums
240: Photo Gallery
241: Community Forums
242: Community Forums
243: Home
244: Community Forums
245: Photo Gallery
246: Community Forums
247: Home
248: Community Forums
249: Community Forums
250: Community Forums
251: Community Forums
252: Community Forums
253: Community Forums
254: Downloads
255: Community Forums
256: Community Forums
257: Community Forums
258: Community Forums
259: Member Screenshots
260: Community Forums
261: Community Forums
262: Community Forums
263: Community Forums
264: Community Forums
265: Community Forums
266: Photo Gallery
267: Your Account
268: Community Forums
269: Community Forums
270: Photo Gallery
271: Photo Gallery
272: Downloads
273: Photo Gallery
274: Community Forums
275: Community Forums
276: Photo Gallery
277: Community Forums
278: Community Forums
279: Community Forums
280: Photo Gallery
281: Community Forums
282: Community Forums
283: Photo Gallery
284: Community Forums
285: Community Forums
286: Home
287: Community Forums
288: Home
289: Statistics
290: Community Forums
291: Photo Gallery
292: Community Forums
293: LinkToUs
294: Community Forums
295: Photo Gallery
296: Community Forums
297: Photo Gallery
298: Community Forums
299: Community Forums
300: Community Forums
301: CPGlang
302: Community Forums
303: Your Account
304: Photo Gallery
305: Community Forums
306: Community Forums
307: Community Forums
308: Photo Gallery
309: Home
310: News Archive
311: Community Forums
312: Community Forums
313: Community Forums
314: Community Forums
315: Statistics
316: Community Forums
317: Community Forums
318: Community Forums
319: Community Forums
320: Community Forums
321: Community Forums
322: Community Forums
323: Community Forums
324: Community Forums
325: Home
326: Community Forums
327: Downloads
328: Your Account
329: Photo Gallery
330: Community Forums
331: Community Forums
332: Community Forums
333: Community Forums
334: Photo Gallery
335: Photo Gallery
336: Community Forums
337: Downloads
338: Community Forums
339: Community Forums
340: Community Forums
341: Downloads
342: Community Forums
343: Home
344: Photo Gallery
345: Downloads
346: Community Forums
347: Downloads
348: Community Forums
349: Downloads
350: Photo Gallery
351: Community Forums
352: Community Forums
353: Downloads
354: Home
355: Community Forums
356: Community Forums
357: Photo Gallery
358: Community Forums
359: Community Forums
360: Member Screenshots
361: Home
362: Community Forums
363: Community Forums
364: Community Forums
365: Downloads
366: Community Forums
367: Photo Gallery
368: Photo Gallery
369: Photo Gallery
370: Community Forums
371: Home
372: Home
373: Community Forums
374: Community Forums
375: Community Forums
376: Community Forums
377: Community Forums
378: Photo Gallery
379: Community Forums
380: Community Forums
381: Home
382: Home
383: Photo Gallery
384: Community Forums
385: CPGlang
386: News Archive
387: Community Forums
388: Community Forums
389: Community Forums
390: Community Forums
391: Member Screenshots
392: Community Forums
393: Home
394: Community Forums
395: Community Forums
396: Downloads
397: Member Screenshots
398: Community Forums
399: Photo Gallery
400: Community Forums
401: Photo Gallery
402: Photo Gallery
403: Community Forums
404: Community Forums
405: Community Forums
406: Home
407: Community Forums
408: Photo Gallery
409: Community Forums
410: Photo Gallery
411: Community Forums
412: Photo Gallery
413: Community Forums
414: Community Forums
415: Community Forums
416: Community Forums
417: Community Forums
418: Community Forums
419: Community Forums
420: Community Forums
421: Photo Gallery
422: News
423: Community Forums
424: Downloads
425: Your Account
426: Community Forums
427: Home
428: Community Forums
429: Community Forums
430: Photo Gallery
431: Community Forums
432: Statistics
433: Photo Gallery
434: CPGlang
435: Community Forums
436: Photo Gallery
437: Community Forums
438: Community Forums
439: Community Forums
440: Community Forums
441: Photo Gallery
442: Community Forums
443: Community Forums
444: Community Forums
445: Photo Gallery
446: Community Forums
447: Community Forums
448: Community Forums
449: Community Forums
450: Community Forums
451: Community Forums
452: Photo Gallery
453: Community Forums
454: Home
455: Downloads
456: Community Forums
457: Your Account
458: Member Screenshots
459: Community Forums
460: Community Forums
461: Community Forums
462: Community Forums
463: Community Forums
464: Community Forums
465: Community Forums
466: News Archive
467: Photo Gallery
468: Community Forums
469: Community Forums
470: Community Forums
471: Community Forums
472: Photo Gallery
473: Home
474: Community Forums
475: Community Forums
476: Photo Gallery
477: Community Forums
478: Community Forums
479: Community Forums
480: Community Forums
481: Downloads
482: Home
483: Community Forums
484: Photo Gallery
485: Community Forums
486: Community Forums
487: Home
488: Community Forums
489: Home
490: Community Forums
491: Community Forums
492: Photo Gallery
493: Community Forums
494: Community Forums
495: Photo Gallery
496: Community Forums
497: Photo Gallery
498: Photo Gallery
499: Community Forums
500: Photo Gallery
501: Photo Gallery
502: Community Forums
503: Community Forums
504: Community Forums
505: Downloads
506: Home
507: Community Forums
508: Community Forums
509: Downloads
510: Community Forums
511: Community Forums
512: Community Forums
513: Community Forums
514: Community Forums
515: Community Forums
516: Photo Gallery
517: Photo Gallery
518: Community Forums
519: Community Forums
520: Home
521: Photo Gallery
522: Community Forums
523: Community Forums
524: Photo Gallery
525: Downloads
526: Photo Gallery
527: Community Forums
528: Community Forums
529: Photo Gallery
530: Community Forums
531: Community Forums
532: Photo Gallery
533: Community Forums
534: Community Forums
535: Community Forums
536: Photo Gallery
537: Community Forums
538: Community Forums
539: Community Forums
540: Community Forums
541: Community Forums
542: Community Forums
543: Community Forums
544: Home
545: Downloads
546: Community Forums
547: Downloads
548: Home
549: Community Forums
550: Home
551: Community Forums
552: Community Forums
553: Photo Gallery
554: Photo Gallery
555: Home
556: Photo Gallery
557: Community Forums
558: Community Forums
559: Community Forums
560: Community Forums
561: Community Forums
562: Community Forums
563: Community Forums
564: Community Forums
565: Community Forums
566: Community Forums
567: Community Forums
568: Photo Gallery
569: Community Forums
570: Home
571: Community Forums
572: Community Forums
573: Home
574: Community Forums
575: Community Forums
576: Photo Gallery
577: Community Forums
578: Community Forums
579: Home
580: Community Forums
581: Your Account
582: Community Forums
583: Community Forums
584: Community Forums
585: Photo Gallery
586: Home
587: Home
588: Community Forums
589: Community Forums
590: Community Forums
591: Photo Gallery
592: Community Forums
593: Photo Gallery
594: Photo Gallery
595: Community Forums
596: Community Forums
597: Photo Gallery
598: Photo Gallery

Staff Online:

No staff members are online!
Something new at Ft Bliss Texas 2. It's a LINGLE!!!!!!!!!!!
The AFV ASSOCIATION was formed in 1964 to support the thoughts and research of all those interested in Armored Fighting Vehicles and related topics, such as AFV drawings. The emphasis has always been on sharing information and communicating with other members of similar interests; e.g. German armor, Japanese AFVs, or whatever.
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page     Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board

View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
Roy_A_Lingle
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 1997
Location: El Paso & Ft Bliss, Texas
PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 11:31 am
Post subject: Something new at Ft Bliss Texas 2. It's a LINGLE!!!!!!!!!!!

Hi Folks!
Sorry about that title.
[img][/img]
[img][/img]
[img][/img]
[img][/img]
[img][/img]
The number looks like 2363 on the left side. The number on the right side is stamped twice. The high number is 236 with a 3 stamped over the 6. Low stamping is 2363, the same as the left side. Serial Number????
[img][/img]

My first love has returned to Ft. Bliss. She not an A2, but an A0 is better that no Lingle at all.
Spot Report!
Sgt, Scouts Out!

_________________
"You can never have too much reconnaissance."
General G.S. Patton Jr.
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail
Neil_Baumgardner
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 3942
Location: Arlington, VA
PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 2:37 pm
Post subject: Re: Something new at Ft Bliss Texas 2. It's a LINGLE!!!!!!!!!!!

Hmmm.... Same vehicle?

www.primeportal.net/ap...ueck/m114/

The Bliss one seems to be a good bit more scratched up/paint flaked off on the front...

Unfortunately we have determined that the numbers stamped below the tow lugs are not the SNs... The "Lingle" is apparently the one (?) US vehicle that doesnt have the SN stamped on the outside somewhere...

Neil
Back to top
View user's profile
Roy_A_Lingle
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 1997
Location: El Paso & Ft Bliss, Texas
PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 3:35 pm
Post subject: Re: Something new at Ft Bliss Texas 2. It's a LINGLE!!!!!!!!!!!

Hi Neil! Hi Fokls!

I think you are correct. (Update: Check out the right front headlight guard. Both vehicles have the same damage!) Looking at the headlight groups on both sides, both vehicles have the same items missing. I tried to move the surfboard base, it is rusted in place.

I remember back before I drop out off the internet for a few years we all had figured out that the M114 didn't have exterier SN numbers. I was thinking that passed reports had listed different numbers on the two sides. I was very surpised to see the same number on each side. I was just wondering if any thing had changed while I was lost.

Sgt, Scouts Out!

_________________
"You can never have too much reconnaissance."
General G.S. Patton Jr.
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail
Roy_A_Lingle
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 1997
Location: El Paso & Ft Bliss, Texas
PostPosted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 1:11 am
Post subject: Re: Something new at Ft Bliss Texas 2. It's a LINGLE!!!!!!!!!!!

Hi Folks!

Update on that M114.
The serial number is 2374 and May 1964 is stamped into data plate at the bottom right corner. The RN looks like it was 2AH88. That doesn't line up with any RN's that I can seen in any of the photos that where taken of vehicles in service. That number was painted on the side hull, then repainted over the first one, a bit higher and a little forward of the first one, before both of those layers where painted over with third layer of OD paint.

Last Sunday I was able to open the driver's hatch and climb down inside. I think I am getting a bit to old to be climbing around inside a Lingle!

This old Lingle is not what she seams to be when looking at the outside of her. The first odd thing I noticed was the storage marking on the right wall below that cannon plug. What does that say? Spare feeder? What spare feeder? The M114A0 had a flex mounted M2 HB 50 Cal MG, no need for a spare feeder. The M114A1 had a cradle mounted M2 HB TT 50 Cal MG, again no need for a spare feeder. WAIT A MINUTE! The M114A2 mounted a M139 20mm auto cannon! IT USED A FEEDER! What is going on here?
[img]

Then I started looking around the rear of the vehicle and noticed a very large item laying on the deck. What the h@%l is that? If it had been a rattlesnake, it could have bitten me before I noticed it was there. Odd item number two is a gun cradle for a M139 20mm auto cannon. What is that here?
[img][/img]

Data Plate, notice it has E1 stamped into it. At the time I was inside, I didn't see that. I only saw it once I downloaded the photo to my PC.
[img]

"E1!" This vehicle started service as a M114A0, at some point it was upgrade with a XM27 powered turret and a M139 20 mm auto cannon. Both the M114A0s and the M114A1s had "E1" stamped into their data plates when they received that major upgrade. This vehicle ended it's service as a M114A2, most likly losted it's XM27 turret to the M113 TUA or M113 FIST program. Who ever did that job, layed the gun cradle inside the hull. Somewhere, somehow, someone put a split TC hatch turret on this old girl.

Updated spot Report!
Sgt, Scouts Out!

_________________
"You can never have too much reconnaissance."
General G.S. Patton Jr.
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page    Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board
Page 1 of 1
All times are GMT - 6 Hours



Jump to:  


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You cannot download files in this forum