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Michel_Krauss

Hi P-O,

your friend also interested in M3 tanks?
Apperently Staman has 2 for sale, price on request

Bialy,
I think there may be more then just 1 OT-810
Because Staman is also selling spare engine's, transmisions and front axle's for the OT-810

I definitely have to check this site more often Cool

the_shadock

- Michel_Krauss

Nijverdal has his own vehicle trading company called Staman International trading and I thnk the picture's where taken there

Staman sold to a friend of mine 9 cylinders for a Continental R-971 C1 engine that will run his Sherman.
It's a very well known trading company, that has a lot of Sherman parts.

P-O

Michel_Krauss

Hi Bialy,

no I did not know this OT-810, but I did some research because of the text at the bottom of the picture (Army Cars and Nijverdal)

The picture's are not from the Army Cars museum collection, I think that the photographer is some how connected to the museum

Army Cars has an large depot at Breda, not at Nijverdal and that is an 190km, 2 1/2 hour drive

Nijverdal has his own vehicle trading company called Staman Intenational trading and I thnk the picture's where taken there

I forgot all about them, thanks for the post Wink

By the way is some-one interested in buying an SA-6 Gainfull launcher?
Staman is selling them for the owner (Czech Republic) about 9500 euro each Mr. Green

www.stamantechniek.nl/...k.nl/shop/

Michel

bialy-r · Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 7:44 pm Post subject: Re: The Netherlands AFV Registers

Michel do you known this OT-810?
picasaweb.google.com/v...1838902786

Michel_Krauss · Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 1:57 am Post subject: Re: The Netherlands AFV Registers

Some new picture's

it is not realy an AFV, but something special

Massimo you will like it, because it is Italian and was build in 1916
The Italian army has used it untill the beginning of 1930

Michel

Michel_Krauss

Hi Bialy-r

I have been checking and sofar I could only find 1 vehicle in the Netherlands
It is part of the Army Museum Delft and is some where at an depot, only open for public during special military events.

Link below to some picture's (site Dutch only)

www.collectie.legermus...iatheek&q=

and just the vehicle

www.collectie.legermus...72_001.jpg

The Dutch description for this vehicle is AMX-PRA
PRA meaning "pantserrups artillerie", that would be something like: armored tracked artillery

I do not think that there will be others left in the Netherlands of the original 82 vehicles
They are withdrawn from service because it was not possible to keep them running

I found an article about an trophy for the most operational mechanized artillery unit, that won with only 1 out of 18 vehicle's working Shocked

The last vehicle was put out of service in 1982

Michel

bialy-r · Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 8:21 pm Post subject: Re: The Netherlands AFV Registers

I'm looking for AMX Mk 61 Self Propelled Howitzer in Netherlands. Michel do you know any?

Michel_Krauss · Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 4:50 pm Post subject: Re: The Netherlands AFV Registers

Hi P-O

then I will put them in the list.

I also would like to ad then an M29 Weasel of the museum Wings of Liberation at Best.

Regards,

Michel

the_shadock · Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 7:47 am Post subject: Re: The Netherlands AFV Registers

Michel,

if you look to other AFVs registers, both M25 Dragon Wagon, M4/M5/M6 HSTs and even M29 Weasels are listed.

P-O

Michel_Krauss · Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 1:00 am Post subject: Re: The Netherlands AFV Registers

P-O,

thanks for the additional vehicle's.

However this list leaves me with an question.
The M25 has armour and is armed, so technically can be on the list.

However the high speed tractor's M4-M5-M6, should they be on the list?
Maybe I am wrong, because in my opinion they are not real AFV's.
I placed them in the category of truck's.
Something like an deuce and a half with an MG on the cabin, only tracked

If the general opinion is that they should be on the list, no problem
Let me know

Michel

the_shadock

Overloon
Liberty Park, Museumpark 1 (N 51 34.206, E 5 57.197)
[b]the Sexton, the second M3A1 Scout Car, the BRDM-2, the T17E1 Straghound hull and the 3 M29 Weasels (including 1 M29C) are missing in the list. You can also add the M25 Dragon Wagon. thye GT-SM (Gaz-71), the M4 HST, M5 HST and M6 HST (as fully tracked vehicles).

P-O

the_shadock · Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 7:38 pm Post subject: Re: The Netherlands AFV Registers

here are some additional information :

Schaarsbergen
Arnhem War Museum 40-45, Kemperbergerweg (N 52 1.602, E 5 52.304)
M4 Sherman US out
It is an M4A4, serial number 21169, original (factory) registration number 3021475. The M4(75) turret is beside the tank
T34/85 USSR out
There are also an M16 Half-Track MGMCand a T17E1 Staghound Armored Car with the running gear missing, but with the turret. You can add them in the register.

Oosterbeek
Airborne museum, Utrechtseweg (N 51 59.293, E 5 49.967)
M4A4 Sherman US out
SN 5964, original RN 3057774

Best
Museum Bevrijdende Vleugels, Sonseweg (N 51 30.913, E 5 26.389)
M4A1(76)W Sherman US out sn 30419403
M4A1(76)W E8 HVSS US out
Panzer 61 MBT CHE out
T-34/85 MBT
There is also a G13 Hetzer there

P-O

Michel_Krauss · Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 6:46 pm Post subject: Re: The Netherlands AFV Registers

Hi folks,

about the different type's of the DAF YP-408, in total there where 8 different versions
The short PW or PantserWiel in English would be Armored wheeled
The other letters designate the type of use

YP408 PWI-S GR = PantserWiel Infanterie Standaard Groep = standard infantry section, crew of 3 with 9 infantry
YP408 PWI-S PC = PantserWiel Infanterie Standaard PelotonsCommandant = platoon commander, vehicle has additional radio's
YP408 PWCO = PantserWiel COmpagniescommandant = company commander
YP408 PW-GWT = PantserWiel GeWondenTransport = wounded transport
YP408 PW-V = PantserWiel Vracht = cargo
YP408 PW-MT aka YP408 PW-MR = PantserWiel MortierTrekker = towing of mortar
YP408 PWAT (TOW) = PantserWiel Anti Tank = anti-tank missile TOW
YP408 PW-RDR = PantserWiel RADAR = vehicle with doppler radar

Michel

Michel_Krauss · Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 7:42 pm Post subject: Re: The Netherlands AFV Registers

Bialy and others,

the famous Dutch DAF YP-408

DAF YP-408 PWI-S GR KN-75-54-2009

DAF YP-408-PW-CO KN-88-91_Overloon-2008

DAF YP-408-PWGWT KN-87-17_Harskamp-2009

Bialy, before you start using this 3 picture's for the register
On the link below you can go to the Photoshop album YP-408
There you will find all 6 different YP-408 I mentioned earlier

s1015.photobucket.com/...%20YP-408/

The name of the picture's posted above all start with S-DAF... s-meaning small (500xn)
You could find the same picture's bigger in size sarting without s-.. (1200xn)

Michel

bialy-r

That would be great.

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