±Recent Visitors

Recent Visitors to Com-Central!

±User Info-big


Welcome Anonymous

Nickname
Password

Membership:
Latest: cgsimpson
New Today: 0
New Yesterday: 0
Overall: 6645

People Online:
Members: 0
Visitors: 439
Total: 439
Who Is Where:
 Visitors:
01: Community Forums
02: Community Forums
03: Downloads
04: Downloads
05: Community Forums
06: Community Forums
07: Your Account
08: Downloads
09: Community Forums
10: Home
11: Community Forums
12: Photo Gallery
13: Community Forums
14: Community Forums
15: Photo Gallery
16: Community Forums
17: Community Forums
18: Home
19: Community Forums
20: Member Screenshots
21: Statistics
22: Your Account
23: Community Forums
24: News
25: Community Forums
26: Photo Gallery
27: Community Forums
28: Community Forums
29: CPGlang
30: Community Forums
31: Statistics
32: Community Forums
33: Community Forums
34: Photo Gallery
35: Community Forums
36: Photo Gallery
37: Community Forums
38: Community Forums
39: Photo Gallery
40: Community Forums
41: Photo Gallery
42: Community Forums
43: Community Forums
44: Community Forums
45: Community Forums
46: Community Forums
47: Community Forums
48: Community Forums
49: Community Forums
50: Community Forums
51: Community Forums
52: Downloads
53: Community Forums
54: Community Forums
55: Community Forums
56: Community Forums
57: Community Forums
58: Community Forums
59: Community Forums
60: Community Forums
61: Statistics
62: CPGlang
63: Community Forums
64: CPGlang
65: Home
66: Community Forums
67: Community Forums
68: Community Forums
69: Community Forums
70: Downloads
71: Community Forums
72: Community Forums
73: Community Forums
74: Community Forums
75: Community Forums
76: Photo Gallery
77: Community Forums
78: Photo Gallery
79: Community Forums
80: Community Forums
81: Statistics
82: Community Forums
83: News Archive
84: Community Forums
85: Community Forums
86: Community Forums
87: Photo Gallery
88: Community Forums
89: Community Forums
90: CPGlang
91: Community Forums
92: Community Forums
93: Community Forums
94: Community Forums
95: Community Forums
96: Photo Gallery
97: Community Forums
98: Community Forums
99: Home
100: Community Forums
101: Community Forums
102: Home
103: Community Forums
104: Photo Gallery
105: Community Forums
106: Photo Gallery
107: Photo Gallery
108: Home
109: Community Forums
110: Community Forums
111: Photo Gallery
112: Photo Gallery
113: Community Forums
114: Community Forums
115: Community Forums
116: Community Forums
117: Community Forums
118: Community Forums
119: Home
120: Community Forums
121: Home
122: Community Forums
123: Community Forums
124: Statistics
125: Your Account
126: Photo Gallery
127: Photo Gallery
128: Community Forums
129: Photo Gallery
130: CPGlang
131: Community Forums
132: Photo Gallery
133: Community Forums
134: Community Forums
135: Statistics
136: CPGlang
137: Community Forums
138: Home
139: Community Forums
140: CPGlang
141: Home
142: Community Forums
143: Community Forums
144: Photo Gallery
145: Downloads
146: Downloads
147: Community Forums
148: Community Forums
149: Community Forums
150: Community Forums
151: Home
152: Community Forums
153: Community Forums
154: Statistics
155: Member Screenshots
156: CPGlang
157: News
158: Photo Gallery
159: Community Forums
160: Photo Gallery
161: Community Forums
162: Community Forums
163: Photo Gallery
164: Photo Gallery
165: Downloads
166: Community Forums
167: Community Forums
168: Community Forums
169: Community Forums
170: Community Forums
171: Community Forums
172: Photo Gallery
173: Community Forums
174: Photo Gallery
175: Community Forums
176: Community Forums
177: Community Forums
178: Community Forums
179: Community Forums
180: Home
181: Community Forums
182: Community Forums
183: Home
184: Community Forums
185: Community Forums
186: CPGlang
187: Home
188: Community Forums
189: Community Forums
190: Community Forums
191: Photo Gallery
192: Photo Gallery
193: CPGlang
194: Home
195: Community Forums
196: Community Forums
197: Photo Gallery
198: Community Forums
199: CPGlang
200: Community Forums
201: Community Forums
202: Community Forums
203: Community Forums
204: Photo Gallery
205: Statistics
206: Home
207: Community Forums
208: Photo Gallery
209: Community Forums
210: CPGlang
211: Home
212: Community Forums
213: Home
214: Community Forums
215: CPGlang
216: Home
217: Photo Gallery
218: CPGlang
219: Photo Gallery
220: Community Forums
221: Home
222: Photo Gallery
223: Home
224: Community Forums
225: Community Forums
226: Community Forums
227: Community Forums
228: Community Forums
229: Community Forums
230: Community Forums
231: Community Forums
232: Community Forums
233: Community Forums
234: Home
235: Community Forums
236: Community Forums
237: Member Screenshots
238: Community Forums
239: Community Forums
240: Community Forums
241: CPGlang
242: Home
243: Downloads
244: Downloads
245: Community Forums
246: Community Forums
247: Statistics
248: Community Forums
249: Community Forums
250: Downloads
251: Community Forums
252: Home
253: Photo Gallery
254: Community Forums
255: Photo Gallery
256: Community Forums
257: Photo Gallery
258: Member Screenshots
259: Community Forums
260: Photo Gallery
261: Community Forums
262: Community Forums
263: Community Forums
264: Photo Gallery
265: Home
266: Home
267: Downloads
268: Photo Gallery
269: Home
270: Home
271: Downloads
272: Community Forums
273: CPGlang
274: Community Forums
275: Photo Gallery
276: Home
277: Community Forums
278: Community Forums
279: Photo Gallery
280: Community Forums
281: Photo Gallery
282: Home
283: Community Forums
284: Community Forums
285: Community Forums
286: Photo Gallery
287: Community Forums
288: Photo Gallery
289: Statistics
290: News Archive
291: Community Forums
292: Photo Gallery
293: Community Forums
294: Photo Gallery
295: Photo Gallery
296: Community Forums
297: CPGlang
298: Community Forums
299: Community Forums
300: Community Forums
301: Community Forums
302: Community Forums
303: Community Forums
304: Community Forums
305: Community Forums
306: Community Forums
307: Community Forums
308: News Archive
309: Community Forums
310: CPGlang
311: Community Forums
312: Community Forums
313: Home
314: Photo Gallery
315: Community Forums
316: Community Forums
317: Community Forums
318: Community Forums
319: Community Forums
320: Member Screenshots
321: Member Screenshots
322: Home
323: Community Forums
324: Statistics
325: Community Forums
326: Community Forums
327: Community Forums
328: Community Forums
329: Home
330: Community Forums
331: Community Forums
332: Home
333: Community Forums
334: Community Forums
335: Photo Gallery
336: Home
337: Community Forums
338: Community Forums
339: Contact
340: Community Forums
341: Community Forums
342: Community Forums
343: Photo Gallery
344: Community Forums
345: Community Forums
346: Home
347: Home
348: Home
349: Photo Gallery
350: Community Forums
351: Statistics
352: Photo Gallery
353: Home
354: CPGlang
355: Community Forums
356: Community Forums
357: Photo Gallery
358: Community Forums
359: Community Forums
360: Community Forums
361: Community Forums
362: Community Forums
363: Community Forums
364: Downloads
365: Home
366: Community Forums
367: Community Forums
368: Statistics
369: Home
370: Home
371: News Archive
372: Photo Gallery
373: Community Forums
374: Community Forums
375: Community Forums
376: Home
377: Photo Gallery
378: Community Forums
379: CPGlang
380: Community Forums
381: Home
382: Community Forums
383: Statistics
384: Community Forums
385: Community Forums
386: Community Forums
387: Home
388: Community Forums
389: Community Forums
390: Photo Gallery
391: Community Forums
392: Community Forums
393: Photo Gallery
394: Statistics
395: Community Forums
396: Home
397: Community Forums
398: Home
399: Member Screenshots
400: Community Forums
401: Community Forums
402: Community Forums
403: Community Forums
404: Photo Gallery
405: Downloads
406: Community Forums
407: Photo Gallery
408: Photo Gallery
409: Community Forums
410: Community Forums
411: Community Forums
412: Home
413: Community Forums
414: Photo Gallery
415: Community Forums
416: Community Forums
417: Community Forums
418: Community Forums
419: Community Forums
420: Photo Gallery
421: Home
422: Community Forums
423: Home
424: Photo Gallery
425: CPGlang
426: Community Forums
427: Community Forums
428: Community Forums
429: Photo Gallery
430: Community Forums
431: Home
432: Home
433: Photo Gallery
434: Statistics
435: Community Forums
436: Community Forums
437: Community Forums
438: Photo Gallery
439: Community Forums

Staff Online:

No staff members are online!
Surviving Pz 61 and Pz 68
The AFV ASSOCIATION was formed in 1964 to support the thoughts and research of all those interested in Armored Fighting Vehicles and related topics, such as AFV drawings. The emphasis has always been on sharing information and communicating with other members of similar interests; e.g. German armor, Japanese AFVs, or whatever.
Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5  Next
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page     Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board

View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
Massimo_Foti
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Apr 08, 2008
Posts: 5397
Location: Lugano, Switzerland
PostPosted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 5:13 pm
Post subject: Re: Still chasing Pz 61 and Pz 68 in USA and Europe

Pz 68 (M-77807) should be in Military Museum of Southern New England, Danbury, CT (USA). Neil, do you know anything about this?

Massimo
Back to top
View user's profile
TrevorLarkum
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Sep 16, 2007
Posts: 1596
Location: Northampton, England
PostPosted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 9:32 pm
Post subject: Re: Still chasing Pz 61 and Pz 68 in USA and Europe

I visited and photographed the collection in August 2008 and didn't see one then.

_________________
Trevor

Dr Trevor Larkum
Preserved Tanks: PreservedTanks.com
Armour Archive: ArmourArchive.co.uk
EVs
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website
Massimo_Foti
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Apr 08, 2008
Posts: 5397
Location: Lugano, Switzerland
PostPosted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 9:48 pm
Post subject: Re: Still chasing Pz 61 and Pz 68 in USA and Europe

Based on swiss records we know one was acquired by the Museum. That's all I have so far

Massimo
Back to top
View user's profile
the_shadock
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: May 27, 2006
Posts: 2865
Location: Normandy, France
PostPosted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 10:11 pm
Post subject: Re: Still chasing Pz 61 and Pz 68 in USA and Europe

by the way, I found today a brand new vehicles list for the MM-SNE in Danbury :

Indoor :

http://www.usmilitarymuseum.org/sitefiles/exhibits.html

Outdoor :

http://www.usmilitarymuseum.org/sitefiles/exhibits2.html

On this list, there are not 3 Locusts, but only 1. Some vehicles desingations are also more accurate than on this list :
http://web.archive.org/web/19980610112213/http:/www.danbury.org/org/military/farti.htm#vehicles

P-O

_________________
soldat_ryan @ hotmail.com

Looking for photos of Sherman manufacturer's plates
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Visit poster's website MSN Messenger
TrevorLarkum
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Sep 16, 2007
Posts: 1596
Location: Northampton, England
PostPosted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 10:16 pm
Post subject: Re: Still chasing Pz 61 and Pz 68 in USA and Europe

Inside I saw just one Locust, and the M1917 was gone. The outdoor list doesn't exactly match what I saw either - for example I took pictures of a Centurion and M42 Duster. Note the IS-2 (partial) was just a turret.

_________________
Trevor

Dr Trevor Larkum
Preserved Tanks: PreservedTanks.com
Armour Archive: ArmourArchive.co.uk
EVs
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website
Massimo_Foti
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Apr 08, 2008
Posts: 5397
Location: Lugano, Switzerland
PostPosted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 10:19 pm
Post subject: Re: Still chasing Pz 61 and Pz 68 in USA and Europe

The Centurion should be a swiss Pz 55/60. r/n M-78551

Massimo
Back to top
View user's profile
TrevorLarkum
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Sep 16, 2007
Posts: 1596
Location: Northampton, England
PostPosted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 10:23 pm
Post subject: Re: Still chasing Pz 61 and Pz 68 in USA and Europe

Yes, from a quick look at the photos I can confirm the reg is "78551". It looks like the 'M' has been painted over, possibly because the label says "Centurion Tank United Kingdom".

_________________
Trevor

Dr Trevor Larkum
Preserved Tanks: PreservedTanks.com
Armour Archive: ArmourArchive.co.uk
EVs
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website
TrevorLarkum
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Sep 16, 2007
Posts: 1596
Location: Northampton, England
PostPosted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 11:56 pm
Post subject: Re: Still chasing Pz 61 and Pz 68 in USA and Europe

- L.Delsing
This is a picture of the number on the nose of the Best (NLD) Pz 61. The last 3 digits are the same as the last 3 of the registration number (M-77620)


Exactly so - I couldn't have put it better myself! Did you know this, or just checked? Anyway, I've uploaded my Muckleburgh pics for comparison:

Muckleburgh Panzer 61

It should at least be a way to confirm or even find out the registration of Panzer 61s. The other digits may also give us some other information (serial number, if different?) if we can work them out.

Edit: In fact, I can see now the other digits - 971 6545 - are the same in Lesley's photo and mine, so maybe it's just a code for 'Panzer 61'.

Number close-up

_________________
Trevor

Dr Trevor Larkum
Preserved Tanks: PreservedTanks.com
Armour Archive: ArmourArchive.co.uk
EVs
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website
Massimo_Foti
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Apr 08, 2008
Posts: 5397
Location: Lugano, Switzerland
PostPosted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 7:47 am
Post subject: Re: Still chasing Pz 61 and Pz 68 in USA and Europe

That's a very coold discovery. From now on I'll try to double-check Pz 61 and 68 for the stamped numbers.

I'll keep you updated, Thanks!

Massimo
Back to top
View user's profile
TrevorLarkum
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Sep 16, 2007
Posts: 1596
Location: Northampton, England
PostPosted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 11:52 pm
Post subject: Re: Still chasing Pz 61 and Pz 68 in USA and Europe

Unfortunately, it doesn't seem to apply to the Pz 68 - at least I can't see a number on the Muckleburgh one:

Muckleburgh Pz 68 (no text)

_________________
Trevor

Dr Trevor Larkum
Preserved Tanks: PreservedTanks.com
Armour Archive: ArmourArchive.co.uk
EVs
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website
Massimo_Foti
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Apr 08, 2008
Posts: 5397
Location: Lugano, Switzerland
PostPosted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 3:39 pm
Post subject: Re: Still chasing Pz 61 and Pz 68 in USA and Europe

I just updated the registers with new tanks and pictures:
www.massimocorner.com/...8_Pz61.pdf
www.massimocorner.com/...g_Pz68.pdf

I am still mssing pictures of a lot of Pz 68s and some Pz 61s Sad

Massimo
Back to top
View user's profile
Massimo_Foti
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Apr 08, 2008
Posts: 5397
Location: Lugano, Switzerland
PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 5:21 am
Post subject: Re: Still chasing Pz 61 and Pz 68 in USA and Europe

Pz 68 (M-77717), Frankfurt (Germany) will soon move to Belgium. I will post more details as soon as I get them.

Massimo
Back to top
View user's profile
Landsverk
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Apr 10, 2010
Posts: 48

PostPosted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 2:57 pm
Post subject: Re: Still chasing Pz 61 and Pz 68 in USA and Europe

There is a Pz 68 in Sweden, Army Museum Collection located at the Army Museum depo i Strangnas.
Registration 77707

I do not know if this vehicle will be on display in the new museum or if it will be a part of the study colllection, but I think that the museum will keep the tank in running condition for future outdoor events. Cool

The photos are from the 40-years anniversary last August, just before the vehicle collection was relocated from the Museum in Axvall to the depo in Strangnas.
The new museum is planned to open late spring 2011.

arsenalen.se/en/pam_40.aspx
Back to top
View user's profile
Massimo_Foti
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Apr 08, 2008
Posts: 5397
Location: Lugano, Switzerland
PostPosted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 9:26 pm
Post subject: Re: Still chasing Pz 61 and Pz 68 in USA and Europe

Thanks Landsverk, luckly that tank is pretty well documented. The most elusive ones usually belong to private collections.

Massimo
Back to top
View user's profile
TrevorLarkum
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Sep 16, 2007
Posts: 1596
Location: Northampton, England
PostPosted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 10:37 pm
Post subject: Re: Still chasing Pz 61 and Pz 68 in USA and Europe

- Landsverk
The photos are from the 40-years anniversary last August, just before the vehicle collection was relocated from the Museum in Axvall to the depo in Strangnas.
The new museum is planned to open late spring 2011.

arsenalen.se/en/pam_40.aspx


I'm sad to say I never got to see the Axvall museum, and never will now. The museum staff kindly sent me photo's of the German vehicles for inclusion in Preserved German Tanks, and they can now be seen online:

Axvall Pansarmuseet

I'll make sure I visit Strangnas as soon as it's open.

_________________
Trevor

Dr Trevor Larkum
Preserved Tanks: PreservedTanks.com
Armour Archive: ArmourArchive.co.uk
EVs
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page    Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board
Page 2 of 5
All times are GMT - 6 Hours
Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5  Next



Jump to:  


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You cannot download files in this forum