±Recent Visitors

Recent Visitors to Com-Central!

±User Info-big


Welcome Anonymous

Nickname
Password

Membership:
Latest: cgsimpson
New Today: 0
New Yesterday: 0
Overall: 6645

People Online:
Members: 0
Visitors: 409
Total: 409
Who Is Where:
 Visitors:
01: Downloads
02: Photo Gallery
03: Downloads
04: Photo Gallery
05: Home
06: Community Forums
07: Your Account
08: Community Forums
09: Community Forums
10: Community Forums
11: Photo Gallery
12: Community Forums
13: Community Forums
14: Community Forums
15: Home
16: Community Forums
17: Photo Gallery
18: Community Forums
19: Community Forums
20: Home
21: Community Forums
22: Community Forums
23: CPGlang
24: Community Forums
25: Community Forums
26: Community Forums
27: Community Forums
28: Photo Gallery
29: Photo Gallery
30: Community Forums
31: Photo Gallery
32: Community Forums
33: Community Forums
34: Downloads
35: Community Forums
36: Community Forums
37: Community Forums
38: Community Forums
39: Community Forums
40: Community Forums
41: Community Forums
42: News Archive
43: News
44: Community Forums
45: Photo Gallery
46: Community Forums
47: CPGlang
48: Home
49: Downloads
50: Community Forums
51: Community Forums
52: Community Forums
53: Community Forums
54: Community Forums
55: Community Forums
56: Community Forums
57: Community Forums
58: Photo Gallery
59: Community Forums
60: Community Forums
61: Community Forums
62: Community Forums
63: Community Forums
64: Community Forums
65: Home
66: CPGlang
67: Photo Gallery
68: Community Forums
69: Home
70: Community Forums
71: Community Forums
72: Photo Gallery
73: Photo Gallery
74: Community Forums
75: Photo Gallery
76: Community Forums
77: Downloads
78: Community Forums
79: Photo Gallery
80: Photo Gallery
81: Photo Gallery
82: Community Forums
83: Community Forums
84: Photo Gallery
85: Photo Gallery
86: Photo Gallery
87: Community Forums
88: Community Forums
89: Community Forums
90: Community Forums
91: Community Forums
92: Downloads
93: Community Forums
94: Community Forums
95: Community Forums
96: Community Forums
97: Community Forums
98: Home
99: Home
100: Community Forums
101: Community Forums
102: Photo Gallery
103: Community Forums
104: Community Forums
105: CPGlang
106: Member Screenshots
107: Your Account
108: CPGlang
109: Photo Gallery
110: Photo Gallery
111: Community Forums
112: Community Forums
113: Community Forums
114: Community Forums
115: Community Forums
116: Community Forums
117: Photo Gallery
118: Community Forums
119: Photo Gallery
120: CPGlang
121: Photo Gallery
122: Community Forums
123: Community Forums
124: Photo Gallery
125: Photo Gallery
126: Community Forums
127: Community Forums
128: Community Forums
129: Community Forums
130: Community Forums
131: Community Forums
132: Community Forums
133: Photo Gallery
134: Photo Gallery
135: Photo Gallery
136: Home
137: Community Forums
138: Community Forums
139: Community Forums
140: Community Forums
141: Home
142: Community Forums
143: Community Forums
144: Community Forums
145: Community Forums
146: Home
147: Photo Gallery
148: Community Forums
149: Statistics
150: Community Forums
151: Community Forums
152: Community Forums
153: Photo Gallery
154: Community Forums
155: Community Forums
156: Community Forums
157: Photo Gallery
158: Community Forums
159: Photo Gallery
160: CPGlang
161: Community Forums
162: Community Forums
163: Community Forums
164: Community Forums
165: Community Forums
166: Community Forums
167: Community Forums
168: Community Forums
169: Photo Gallery
170: Community Forums
171: Community Forums
172: Community Forums
173: Search
174: Community Forums
175: Community Forums
176: Community Forums
177: Downloads
178: Photo Gallery
179: CPGlang
180: Community Forums
181: Community Forums
182: Community Forums
183: Community Forums
184: Community Forums
185: Photo Gallery
186: Community Forums
187: Photo Gallery
188: Community Forums
189: Community Forums
190: Community Forums
191: Community Forums
192: Photo Gallery
193: Downloads
194: Member Screenshots
195: Downloads
196: Photo Gallery
197: Community Forums
198: Downloads
199: News Archive
200: Downloads
201: Community Forums
202: Downloads
203: Photo Gallery
204: Community Forums
205: Photo Gallery
206: Community Forums
207: Community Forums
208: Community Forums
209: Community Forums
210: Home
211: Community Forums
212: Photo Gallery
213: Home
214: Community Forums
215: Downloads
216: Community Forums
217: News Archive
218: Downloads
219: Photo Gallery
220: Community Forums
221: Community Forums
222: Community Forums
223: Community Forums
224: Community Forums
225: Downloads
226: Community Forums
227: Community Forums
228: Community Forums
229: Community Forums
230: Community Forums
231: Community Forums
232: Member Screenshots
233: Your Account
234: Community Forums
235: Community Forums
236: Photo Gallery
237: Community Forums
238: Community Forums
239: Community Forums
240: Home
241: Community Forums
242: Photo Gallery
243: Home
244: Home
245: Community Forums
246: Member Screenshots
247: Community Forums
248: Community Forums
249: Community Forums
250: Community Forums
251: Photo Gallery
252: Community Forums
253: Community Forums
254: Downloads
255: Community Forums
256: Community Forums
257: Community Forums
258: Community Forums
259: Community Forums
260: Home
261: Community Forums
262: Photo Gallery
263: Community Forums
264: Community Forums
265: Photo Gallery
266: Photo Gallery
267: Community Forums
268: Community Forums
269: Photo Gallery
270: Community Forums
271: Home
272: Community Forums
273: Community Forums
274: Community Forums
275: Community Forums
276: Downloads
277: Photo Gallery
278: Your Account
279: Community Forums
280: Community Forums
281: Community Forums
282: Photo Gallery
283: Photo Gallery
284: Community Forums
285: Photo Gallery
286: Photo Gallery
287: Community Forums
288: Photo Gallery
289: Member Screenshots
290: Community Forums
291: Community Forums
292: Photo Gallery
293: Community Forums
294: Community Forums
295: CPGlang
296: Community Forums
297: Photo Gallery
298: Community Forums
299: Community Forums
300: Community Forums
301: Community Forums
302: Member Screenshots
303: Community Forums
304: Community Forums
305: Photo Gallery
306: Community Forums
307: Community Forums
308: Community Forums
309: Community Forums
310: Community Forums
311: Photo Gallery
312: Downloads
313: Photo Gallery
314: Community Forums
315: Community Forums
316: Community Forums
317: Community Forums
318: Community Forums
319: Community Forums
320: Home
321: Community Forums
322: Downloads
323: Community Forums
324: Community Forums
325: Photo Gallery
326: CPGlang
327: Community Forums
328: Community Forums
329: Photo Gallery
330: Community Forums
331: Photo Gallery
332: CPGlang
333: Community Forums
334: Community Forums
335: Community Forums
336: Member Screenshots
337: Home
338: Community Forums
339: Community Forums
340: Community Forums
341: Photo Gallery
342: Community Forums
343: Community Forums
344: Photo Gallery
345: Community Forums
346: Home
347: Photo Gallery
348: News
349: Downloads
350: Community Forums
351: Community Forums
352: CPGlang
353: Community Forums
354: Downloads
355: Community Forums
356: Community Forums
357: Downloads
358: Community Forums
359: Community Forums
360: Community Forums
361: Home
362: Community Forums
363: Community Forums
364: Home
365: CPGlang
366: News
367: Community Forums
368: Community Forums
369: Community Forums
370: Photo Gallery
371: Community Forums
372: Community Forums
373: Home
374: Community Forums
375: Photo Gallery
376: Home
377: Home
378: Community Forums
379: Home
380: Community Forums
381: Member Screenshots
382: Community Forums
383: Community Forums
384: Community Forums
385: Community Forums
386: Community Forums
387: News Archive
388: Home
389: Community Forums
390: Downloads
391: Community Forums
392: Photo Gallery
393: Community Forums
394: Community Forums
395: Community Forums
396: Photo Gallery
397: Community Forums
398: Photo Gallery
399: Community Forums
400: Community Forums
401: Community Forums
402: Photo Gallery
403: Community Forums
404: Community Forums
405: Community Forums
406: Photo Gallery
407: Community Forums
408: Community Forums
409: Home

Staff Online:

No staff members are online!
Photography/Camera Discussions & Tips
The AFV ASSOCIATION was formed in 1964 to support the thoughts and research of all those interested in Armored Fighting Vehicles and related topics, such as AFV drawings. The emphasis has always been on sharing information and communicating with other members of similar interests; e.g. German armor, Japanese AFVs, or whatever.
Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10  Next
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page     Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board

View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
Massimo_Foti
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Apr 08, 2008
Posts: 5397
Location: Lugano, Switzerland
PostPosted: Sat May 04, 2013 8:28 pm
Post subject: Re: Photography/Camera Discussions & Tips

- TrevorLarkum
Massimo, as my winter hibernation comes to a close I'm looking to buy a wide angle lens for my Canon 600D. I have read your complimentary comments about your Tokina but I'd prefer to stick with Canon. Would this be the right one?


Canon 10-22 is very good, but it's variable aperture and "slower", you would end up using f/4.5 most of the times. Tokina's f/2.8 aperture would make the difference indoor. Vagabond uses the Tokina 11-16 and loves it too. Trust me, get the Tokina.

Massimo
Back to top
View user's profile
TrevorLarkum
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Sep 16, 2007
Posts: 1596
Location: Northampton, England
PostPosted: Sat May 04, 2013 8:54 pm
Post subject: Re: Photography/Camera Discussions & Tips

With the Canon cashback the Canon would be cheaper - is it worth paying more for the Tokina?

Edit: There's an interesting discussion here:

www.dpreview.com/forum...t/33788683

In summary, they're both good. The Canon has a greater zoom range, and it's made by Canon. The Tokina works better in low light and produces sharper pictures.

I think I'd like the range of the Canon with the low light ability of the Tokina...

And if I went with the Tokina would it be worth paying the extra for the 'II'?

www.procamerashop.co.u...tAodsj4AAg

_________________
Trevor

Dr Trevor Larkum
Preserved Tanks: PreservedTanks.com
Armour Archive: ArmourArchive.co.uk
EVs
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website
Massimo_Foti
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Apr 08, 2008
Posts: 5397
Location: Lugano, Switzerland
PostPosted: Sat May 04, 2013 9:57 pm
Post subject: Re: Photography/Camera Discussions & Tips

- TrevorLarkum
With the Canon cashback the Canon would be cheaper - is it worth paying more for the Tokina?


Yes, since you are going to use it indoor. For outdoor usage, landscape or the like, I would go for the Canon, since the aperture wouldn't matter and Canon handles flares better.



- TrevorLarkum

www.dpreview.com/forum...t/33788683

In summary, they're both good. The Canon has a greater zoom range, and it's made by Canon. The Tokina works better in low light and produces sharper pictures.

I think I'd like the range of the Canon with the low light ability of the Tokina...


Incidentally dpreview.com is a pretty valuable website, but their forum is mostly crap. But this time I agree with their conclusion Laughing

As for the range, you already have the 18-55, Canon's 10-22 would overlap the 18-22 range.



- TrevorLarkum

And if I went with the Tokina would it be worth paying the extra for the 'II'?


Most likely not. Version II should have better flares handling and a marginally faster auto-focus. For ultra-wide lenses and for our static subjects, auto-focus speed really doesn't matter. Better flares handling would be nice, but it all depends on the cost. How much is the difference in the UK?

Massimo
Back to top
View user's profile
TrevorLarkum
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Sep 16, 2007
Posts: 1596
Location: Northampton, England
PostPosted: Sun May 05, 2013 7:48 am
Post subject: Re: Photography/Camera Discussions & Tips

The prices on that ProCameraShop link are the best I've found - £370 vs £418.

_________________
Trevor

Dr Trevor Larkum
Preserved Tanks: PreservedTanks.com
Armour Archive: ArmourArchive.co.uk
EVs
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website
Massimo_Foti
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Apr 08, 2008
Posts: 5397
Location: Lugano, Switzerland
PostPosted: Sun May 05, 2013 9:40 am
Post subject: Re: Photography/Camera Discussions & Tips

- TrevorLarkum
The prices on that ProCameraShop link are the best I've found - £370 vs £418.


I think I would take version I, but I haven't read that much on version II, I only know it has new glass coating, so better flare handling. But I don't think the image quality would be that much different, if at all.

The risk with the Tokina 11-16 is that after trying it you will feel your 18-55 lens isn't good anymore Smile

Massimo
Back to top
View user's profile
TrevorLarkum
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Sep 16, 2007
Posts: 1596
Location: Northampton, England
PostPosted: Sun May 05, 2013 11:27 am
Post subject: Re: Photography/Camera Discussions & Tips

Ok, you've persuaded me - I'll look at ordering a Tokina.

_________________
Trevor

Dr Trevor Larkum
Preserved Tanks: PreservedTanks.com
Armour Archive: ArmourArchive.co.uk
EVs
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website
Massimo_Foti
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Apr 08, 2008
Posts: 5397
Location: Lugano, Switzerland
PostPosted: Mon May 20, 2013 8:36 pm
Post subject: Re: Photography/Camera Discussions & Tips

I realized just now that I missed to alert you about a potential problem. With lenses that have larger front elements, like Tokina 11-16 or Canon 10-22, the build-in flash may cast a shadow on the image, since it's not high enough above the camera. It's not a show-stopper, but it may hurt you in certain situations.

The only solution is to use an external flash.

Massimo
Back to top
View user's profile
Tichenor
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Dec 06, 2007
Posts: 461
Location: Antwerp
PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2013 9:22 am
Post subject: Re: Photography/Camera Discussions & Tips

- Armyjunk2

Massimo or anyone else, does anyone know of a site like Flicker to post lots of photos, by lots I mean 20,000 or more. Right now I have 4 Photobucket accounts, one that I pay for due to the large number of photos on the site. Some place free would be nice, does Flicker have a limit on free accounts? Anyone know of a free site for large numbers? Thanks AJ2


I just noticed that Flickr did some major update, they are offering 1TB space for free now.
About 500.000 or more pictures, just what you needed.
See: www.theregister.co.uk/...d_storage/

Michel
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website Photo Gallery
TrevorLarkum
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Sep 16, 2007
Posts: 1596
Location: Northampton, England
PostPosted: Sat May 25, 2013 10:05 am
Post subject: Re: Photography/Camera Discussions & Tips

- Massimo_Foti
With lenses that have larger front elements, like Tokina 11-16 or Canon 10-22, the build-in flash may cast a shadow on the image, since it's not high enough above the camera.


I have heard about that problem. I have plans to get an external flash but given how expensive the Canon ones tend to be it will probably be a case of lens this year, flash next year.

_________________
Trevor

Dr Trevor Larkum
Preserved Tanks: PreservedTanks.com
Armour Archive: ArmourArchive.co.uk
EVs
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website
Massimo_Foti
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Apr 08, 2008
Posts: 5397
Location: Lugano, Switzerland
PostPosted: Sat May 25, 2013 10:11 am
Post subject: Re: Photography/Camera Discussions & Tips

- TrevorLarkum
I have heard about that problem. I have plans to get an external flash but given how expensive the Canon ones tend to be it will probably be a case of lens this year, flash next year.


It makes sense.

Massimo
Back to top
View user's profile
Massimo_Foti
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Apr 08, 2008
Posts: 5397
Location: Lugano, Switzerland
PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2014 8:06 am
Post subject: Re: Photography/Camera Discussions & Tips

Canon just announced a EF-S 10-18mm f/4.5–5.6 IS STM lens. On paper it looks like an interesting option for people that have the 18-55 or 18-135 lens and would like to have a wider option without spending too much:
www.the-digital-pictur...?News=9677

Price in USA is 300$. We have to wait for the reviews to comment on image quality.

Massimo
Back to top
View user's profile
Rick_Eshleman
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Apr 26, 2011
Posts: 909
Location: Lewes, Delaware, USA
PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2014 10:10 am
Post subject: Re: Photography/Camera Discussions & Tips

Massimo,
Thanks for tip on getting the Tokina 11-16 lens. I bought mine used (prices vary) on Amazon in time for my trip last December to AAF Museum in Danville, VA where I did two sets of photos, one with the Tokina, and one with my Canon 18-55. The Tokina worked better on the "no flash" indoor photos. My two Canon lens (18-55 and 55-250) work best outside, as telephoto lens. Trevor, for external flash I actually use an old Vivitar, that came from my 35mm film cameras of years ago. If set on a Canon flash, for economy buying used may be the way to go. Rick
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail AIM Address Photo Gallery
Massimo_Foti
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Apr 08, 2008
Posts: 5397
Location: Lugano, Switzerland
PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2014 10:18 am
Post subject: Re: Photography/Camera Discussions & Tips

Glad you enjoy the Tokina. Of course at f/2.8 it gathers more light and work better in dark places.

Have you got used to handling the wide focal length provided by the 11-16? I mean, such a good ultra-wide may be very fun, but it can easily adds perspective distortions to your photos.

Massimo
Back to top
View user's profile
Rick_Eshleman
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Apr 26, 2011
Posts: 909
Location: Lewes, Delaware, USA
PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2014 10:28 am
Post subject: Re: Photography/Camera Discussions & Tips

Massimo,
Yes the wide focal length helps get the whole vehicle in the photo, and lens is good in lo light situations. You do have to learn caution that too wide will distort shots. Overall, a good lens in dark and cramped spaces where no flash is allowed. Thanks again, Rick
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail AIM Address Photo Gallery
TrevorLarkum
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Sep 16, 2007
Posts: 1596
Location: Northampton, England
PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2014 8:16 pm
Post subject: Re: Photography/Camera Discussions & Tips

Last month I got invited to see the Shrivenham collection and used my Tokina lens 'in anger' for the first time. I did see the problem of it casting a big shadow when I used the flash so I did most pictures twice, with and without. Nonetheless I think I do need to look to buy a proper flashgun, and Rick I'll certainly consider your idea of looking for a used one.

_________________
Trevor

Dr Trevor Larkum
Preserved Tanks: PreservedTanks.com
Armour Archive: ArmourArchive.co.uk
EVs
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page    Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board
Page 9 of 10
All times are GMT - 6 Hours
Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10  Next



Jump to:  


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You cannot download files in this forum