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Hopefully in/around Warsaw? Looks like I'm goin' in late April. Any specifics would be appreciated regarding locations, directions, hours, what I can expect to find, stuff like that...
I might get elsewhere, but my schedule is seldom my own.


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Hey,

how about I do your travelling and you stay at home- my per diem is very reasonable Laughing

There is one museum near Warsaw which I can't remember right now, lot of outdoor displays in a rather sorry state (lack of funds), as soon as it pops up again in my cranium, I'll let you know.

A must-see is the museum of the 1944 uprising, the Muzeum Powstania Warszawskiego, ul. Grzybowska 79, see www.1944.pl for details. At Fort Sadyba is a museum commemorating the killing of 15,000 Polish officers at Katyn and Smolensk in 1940, and there is also an Army museum, but IIRC this runs more towards the pre-1900 period.

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Hey,

how about I do your travelling and you stay at home- my per diem is very reasonable Laughing

There is one museum near Warsaw which I can't remember right now, lot of outdoor displays in a rather sorry state (lack of funds), as soon as it pops up again in my cranium, I'll let you know.

A must-see is the museum of the 1944 uprising, the Muzeum Powstania Warszawskiego, ul. Grzybowska 79, see www.1944.pl for details. At Fort Sadyba is a museum commemorating the killing of 15,000 Polish officers at Katyn and Smolensk in 1940, and there is also an Army museum, but IIRC this runs more towards the pre-1900 period.

Cheers,

Jens O.


Jens,

Well, not that the travelling doesn't get tiresome from time-to-time, but my per diem isn't all that reasonable...and, I've got the guys paying the bills completely snookered into believing I've got some kind of skillsets and need to perpetuate this myth. Wink

Be that as it may, and as appealing as the other exhibits look, we need to focus here and stick with the real crowd pleasers for the first visit (I'll doubtless be going back if I manage not to offend the gov't.) Besides, if you've forgotten where the tanks are, that's not a good recommendation for your going in my stead! Laughing

Standing by waiting for it to "come to you" again.... Wink
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Jens,

Well, not that the travelling doesn't get tiresome from time-to-time, but my per diem isn't all that reasonable...and, I've got the guys paying the bills completely snookered into believing I've got some kind of skillsets and need to perpetuate this myth. Wink

Be that as it may, and as appealing as the other exhibits look, we need to focus here and stick with the real crowd pleasers for the first visit (I'll doubtless be going back if I manage not to offend the gov't.) Besides, if you've forgotten where the tanks are, that's not a good recommendation for your going in my stead! Laughing

Standing by waiting for it to "come to you" again.... Wink


Hey,

give an old man a break, I've been preoccupied with Jordanian tanks lately Mr. Green , not to mention unpacking after my move. Crying or Very sad Besides, Poland has a ton of museums that are somehow military-related, but I found the website for the place I was thinking of, it also features a directory of Polish military museums, now how's that? If you can travel some, have a look at Muzeum Uzbrojenia in Poznan's citadel, while there, you can also go to the Polish armor museum there- am I in good stead again? Cool

Cheers,

Jens O.

PS: While there, sample all the Polish food you can get, and don't forget to buy some real Kielbasas...
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Warsaw Military Museum

Polish Army Museum

Main bulding
al. Jerozolimskie 3 (street)
00-495 Warszawa

Museum of Polish Military Technik
Fort IX Czerniakowski
ul.Powsinska 13 (street)

Open: Wensday - 10.00 - 17.00
Thursday - Sunday- 10.00 - 16.00
tel. 022 629 52 71(72)
fax 022 629 52 73
price : normal ticket - 8 PLN (2,5 $)
guide in english - 50 PLN (17 $)

On outdoor exibition you can doing photos but if you want doing indoor photos you must pay for this.
Register is one for Main building and Fort IX Czerniakowski (Sadyba) at the ul.Powsinska 13 because exhibits are often transferred between both section Museum


IS-3 PL out Is one of the two Poland received. Last location Fort IX Czerniakowski

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SU-85 PL out Last location Fort IX Czerniakowski

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ASU-85 PL out Last location Fort IX Czerniakowski

T16 .... ind Universal Carrier built in USA Last location Fort IX Czerniakowski

Humber SC Mk.I.... ind Last location Fort IX Czerniakowski

TKS PL ind Last location Fort IX Czerniakowski

BRDM-1 PL out missile laucher Last location Fort IX Czerniakowski

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BTR-152W PL out Last location Fort IX Czerniakowski

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SKOT-R3 PL out Last location Fort IX Czerniakowski

SKOT-R6 PL out Last location Fort IX Czerniakowski

SKOT-2 PL out Last location Fort IX Czerniakowski

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BRDM-2 PL out 9K35M3 Last location Fort IX Czerniakowski

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BAV(ZiS-485) PL out Last location Central Bulding six-wheel-drive amphibian

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BRDM-2 PL out Last location Central Bulding

BRDM-1 PL out Last location Central Bulding

SKOT 2AP PL out Last location Central Bulding

Sd.Kfz. 251/1 Ausf.D .... out Last location Central Bulding

Jagdpanzer 38 'Hetzer' .... out Last location Central Bulding

Su-57 PL out Last location Central Bulding

Leopard 1A4, GER out Last location Fort IX Czerniakowski


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M107 ... out Last location Fort IX Czerniakowski

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PzKpfw III ... out Last location Central Bulding hull in a very bad condition

StuG III ... out Last location Central Bulding only turret

Kubu? PL out Last location Central Bulding Kubu? was a Polish WWII armoured car, made by the Home Army during the Warsaw Uprising. A single copy was built on the chassis of a Chevrolet van and took part in the fights.


Museum Land Forces
Warsaw Citadel
ul. Dymi?ska 1 (street)
WARING: Museum is on Military zone if you want see this place you must telephone few days before trip
telephone 022 687 82 95
open: Monday - Friday (8,00-15.00)

T-34/85

T-55

BTR-152

ZSU-57-2

BRDM-1

SKOT 2AP

SKOT R-1

PTMS

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This Museum in Poznan is on Military Zone. You must phone if you want enter.
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Warsaw Military Museum

Polish Army Museum

Main bulding
al. Jerozolimskie 3 (street)
00-495 Warszawa

Museum of Polish Military Technik
Fort IX Czerniakowski
ul.Powsinska 13 (street)

Open: Wensday - 10.00 - 17.00
Thursday - Sunday- 10.00 - 16.00
tel. 022 629 52 71(72)
fax 022 629 52 73
price : normal ticket - 8 PLN (2,5 $)
guide in english - 50 PLN (17 $)

On outdoor exibition you can doing photos but if you want doing indoor photos you must pay for this.
Register is one for Main building and Fort IX Czerniakowski (Sadyba) at the ul.Powsinska 13 because exhibits are often transferred between both section Museum

WARING: Museum is on Military zone if you want see this place you must telephone few days before trip
telephone 022 687 82 95
open: Monday - Friday (8,00-15.00)

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Hi Polar!

Well, you pretty much just became "our man in Poland", by default!

So, for a fellow on primarily a medical business trip with a limited schedule, what is the best "investment of time" for someone who might only get to make ONE stop? Where would you recommend that is relatively accessable for my hosts? Cost is not a issue, but time and location might be. Best collection (most varied, best condition, most unusual armored stuff)? For a first time visitor, which should I ask to see first?

Thanks for the great list and directions, by the way...I'll be printing that out!

Doug
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So, for a fellow on primarily a medical business trip with a limited schedule, what is the best "investment of time" for someone who might only get to make ONE stop


This is depend what you are interested and how many time do you have. One hour, few hour or maybe one day.
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So, for a fellow on primarily a medical business trip with a limited schedule, what is the best "investment of time" for someone who might only get to make ONE stop


This is depend what you are interested and how many time do you have. One hour, few hour or maybe one day.


I'm never sure, but I have to assume the minimum and hope for the best since I'm there to help my hosts. Future visits are likely. I'm arriving in Warsaw so for the first visit, I ask for a first choice: 1. Easy access, fast, close, most convenient for my hosts and a second choice for if we find ourselves with a little more time on our hands (since I have some time before this trip, if pre-arrangement is involved, any tips you have are welcomed because I'll forward to my hosts and they can tell me if they are do-able or not and handle any language issues, etc.)

I'm not sure where we might be going outside of Warsaw, but I expect to be doing some traveling by car. As I find out more, maybe I can PM or email you?

Thanks for your help...I'm really looking forward to this trip (first time to Poland)

D.
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Polar, I've found these photos on Detektorweb, it says that the pics were taken in Poland, in a private collection. Do you have further information about it?
-Stug III Ausf G? remains:


-Here we can see the same StuG III and a Panzer II turret :


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- Polar
So, for a fellow on primarily a medical business trip with a limited schedule, what is the best "investment of time" for someone who might only get to make ONE stop


This is depend what you are interested and how many time do you have. One hour, few hour or maybe one day.


I'm never sure, but I have to assume the minimum and hope for the best since I'm there to help my hosts. Future visits are likely. I'm arriving in Warsaw so for the first visit, I ask for a first choice: 1. Easy access, fast, close, most convenient for my hosts and a second choice for if we find ourselves with a little more time on our hands (since I have some time before this trip, if pre-arrangement is involved, any tips you have are welcomed because I'll forward to my hosts and they can tell me if they are do-able or not and handle any language issues, etc.)

I'm not sure where we might be going outside of Warsaw, but I expect to be doing some traveling by car. As I find out more, maybe I can PM or email you?

Thanks for your help...I'm really looking forward to this trip (first time to Poland)

D.


If you will be have little time and you will be in Center Warsaw the best chose is Main Bulding Polish Army Museum at AL Jerozolimskie street.

If you will be have more time ( abot 3-4 hour) the best chose is Museum of Polish Military Technik Fort IX Czerniakowski ul.Powsinska 13 (street) and try to see Main Bulding Polish Army Museum at AL Jerozolimskie street.
Of coure you can Pm or email to me. Cool

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I don't know where is this StuG but I try find info about it. Did you could direct link to article about this stug on detektorweb?
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Polar, here is the direct link :

http://www.detektorweb.cz/index.4me?s=show&i=3606&mm=1&vd=1

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Small update
All pic was doing on Main Bulding Polish Army Museum in Warsaw

BRDM-1

BRDM-2

Sd.Kfz. 251/1 Ausf.D

Kubus

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This StuG could be the part collection of Keszycki brothers.
On this link you can find few poor pic this collection.
www.odkrywca.pl/pokaz_...?id=334145
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Kolobrzeg

Military Museum
ul. Emilii Gierczak 5. (street)
open:
september - may
monday - close
tuesday 10:00 - 16:00 only outdoor -free enter
Wensday - Sunday 10:00 - 16:00 without
Thursday 11:00 - 17:00

june - august
monday - Sunday - 09:30 - 17:00
Wensday -09:30 -12:00
Wensday -12:00 - 18:00 only outdoor -free enter







T-34/76 - tactical number 102

T-34/85 - tactical number 1000

IS-2 - tactical number 410

ISU-122 - tactical number 009

ISU-152 tactical number 005

Su-57 (T48) - tactical number 426

Su-76 - tactical number 158

ASU-85 - tactical number 9044

BTR-40

BTR-152

BRDM-1

R-11M SCUD

other exponat

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