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"Images of Kursk" (and one seriously brewed-up Elefant)
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Interesting photos, sixteen pages worth, lotsa' armor.

Page twelve features one brewed-up Elefant. Pattern of damage is striking.

www.aeronautics.ru/arc...age_01.htm
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Thanks Doug

I thinking the Elefant's ammo cooked off after behing hit by something else, If that's the result of the initial hit I'd love to know what did it, maybe a large mine?

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It's result of deck roof hit by B-4 203-mm howitzer Wink
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Thanks Taranov Wink

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The link's not working for me.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 7:04 am
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Not everything posted there relates to Kursk . . . There are a lot snow and overcoats shown for a battle taking part in July and August . . .

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Working now, nice pics!

- Taranov
It's result of deck roof hit by B-4 203-mm howitzer ;)


Perhaps, but all the hatches being open - and apparently blown off in some cases, like the rear one - and the roof looking largely undamaged inclines me toward the internal explosion suggestion.

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Only two Ferdinands have real huge damage of hull/deck.
First have direct hit of FAB-100 bomb from Pe-2 dive bomber

Second - on photo from topic start, direct hit to deck roof from B-4 howitzer.
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I guess we're talking about different pictures - I thought the reference was to this one:


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Full destroyed deck - it's result of bomb hit from Pe-2
Overturned deck - result of B-4 howitzer hit. And it's not speculations - it's official Red Army report.

Ferdinand have very strong superstructure. Typical result of internal impact - opened roof hatches and removed evacuation/gun removing hatch on the rear side of deck.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 6:50 am
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This Panther doesn't look too good either....



Some seriously big holes and cracks in the side.



It is just a shadow or is there a big, irregular hole on the left hull roof, just behind the turret ring?

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