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Ssssh! its about the CIA.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 9:33 am
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For the tanks on the badge, how about one representing the earliest tank (Little willy?) and the latest?


As a matter of fact I was thinking about it, but the rhomboids are more universally recognizable and had numerous users: GB, US, Imperial Germany, Rooshia- goes well with the international theme, dontcha think?


Ah, I see. If not the rhomboid (for some reason), might I suggest the FT-17 as an alternative?
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Oops I thought since someone had suggested the Soviet badge a couple messages earlier ....

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I actually like the tank portrayed on the Soviet hat flash earlier in this thread. (I didn't see the M-41 influence. At first I saw a Tiger II turret and a KV/JS suspension, over all a good stylised generic tank)


Ahmm, Bob, that was an ARVN beret badge and we know they loved their M41s- hence my reference to Marvin. Cool
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 7:16 am
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I think most of jens ideas are spot on. Personally I was thinking the latin would run along the sides of the triangle. I was thinking a plain three colored triangle without overlayed branch insignia. (Although the flaming bomb with it's Ordnance Corps connotations would be nice at Aberdeen :-))

I actually like the tank portrayed on the Soviet hat flash earlier in this thread. (I didn't see the M-41 influence. At first I saw a Tiger II turret and a KV/JS suspension, over all a good stylised generic tank)

I think Bronze Green would be a good background. maybe with an optional Desert Tan with Black lettering for those with a Desert Rat leaning

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Yes,

that certainly looks very nice, thank you Jeff!!

Just two or three things, if I may:

- background should really be OD instead of the bright green, bronze green would also be an option, and maybe the tanks in a dark battleship gray or silver

- instead of that Sherman you snuck in I was aiming at a T-54/55, seeing it was the export bestseller of the evil empire and would cover a lot of African, European, Near, Middle as well as Far Eastern and South American nations

- using the armor triangle was supposed to be the big nod to our American brethren, while I was looking for something more generic than the US branch insignia, hence the artillery piece... I suppose a flaming grenade would also be a nice alternative, crossed rifles and sabers were pretty universal at one time or another, so we could look for a more generic design if necessary

I like the way you arranged the motto at the bottom, the staggered design was just due to the doodling, I didn't know how the words would fit and was looking for a neutral solution, but this looks excellent.

Ahh, it's nice to see my design turned into this... *sniff*

My basic idea is that, once we agree on a design, we'll have it in some standard sizes (calling card, hat, T-shirt breast + chest) and available for download in standard formats, so that members can have them made in their own neighbourhood at a T-shirt or trophy shop of their own choosing, rather than bother with ordering a large batch and distributing it internationally- plus you can choose if you want a T-shirt, Golf shirt, baseball cap, etc.

Just imagine, we'd recognize each other instantly at all kinds of events, we alone know there's a "CIA" hidden in there and of course, we'd be babe magnets. Mr. Green

Thanks again, Jeff



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 5:23 am
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Too american....

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 4:48 am
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Hi Folks!

I think Jeff's idea looks very nice.

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Here you go Jens, hope you like it

I tweaked your design a little and replaced the fieldpiece with croosed cannon barrels to make the images on the triangle consistent. I didn't care for the looks of the latin in the staggered format so I changed it slighty, hope you don't mind.

Here is the "murican" version for Doug and all of us on this side of the pond


the cyberspace gremlins ate the international one ( only difference was armor was spelled armour) I'll redo it tomorrow and post it. It's 2:30 AM here and I'm going to bed now Shocked

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 9:37 pm
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Curmudgeons don't do "newfangled", you're disqualifying yourself from membership with posts like that! Laughing


Hey, I'm still using the time-honoured Ma Deuce, which is older than any of us... Now if I could get AP rounds for my Gatling gun, I'd use that, of course. Wink
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Curmudgeons don't do "newfangled", you're disqualifying yourself from membership with posts like that! Laughing
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This is quaint...AFV, doesn't impinge on any other groups as George wanted to avoid, etc.



My Ma Deuce and I would like to talk to your AFV and its funny notions about it being armoured... Delusions of grandeur, methinks. Mr. Green


...from how far away? Twisted Evil


Shall we say 700 yards if loaded with Cartridge, Caliber .50, Ball, Armor Piercing, M2 or 1,000 if I can get my hands on that newfangled Saboted Light Armor Penetrator (SLAP), M903? Twisted Evil
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This is quaint...AFV, doesn't impinge on any other groups as George wanted to avoid, etc.



My Ma Deuce and I would like to talk to your AFV and its funny notions about it being armoured... Delusions of grandeur, methinks. Mr. Green


...from how far away? Twisted Evil
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This is quaint...AFV, doesn't impinge on any other groups as George wanted to avoid, etc.



My Ma Deuce and I would like to talk to your AFV and its funny notions about it being armoured... Delusions of grandeur, methinks. Mr. Green
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This is quaint...AFV, doesn't impinge on any other groups as George wanted to avoid, etc.

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Pshaw, copycats- the Armored Force, 1942:



More oldies here.

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