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Ssssh! its about the CIA.
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Pertinax Proprius Loricatus would be my choice- Incommodus would probably lead to some very amusing misinterprations... Laughing


You say that like it's a bad thing....
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Pertinax Proprius Loricatus would be my choice- Incommodus would probably lead to some very amusing misinterpretations... Laughing


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Problem with having the words around the triangle is that it needs a big triangle, which is rather US-centered (and a few nations influenced by the US post-war) and I want to keep it as international as possible, seeing that our community is spread all over the world- I'll mull it over some more and keep on doodling... Laughing
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Four to choose from....lets get some more input from others, though.

Loricatus=armored, wearing armor
Pertinax=obstinate, persistant
Incommodus=disagreeable, irksome
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How about we put the Latin (what's Latin for cantankerous?) on a scroll beneath the triangle or in the lower quadrant of the circle?

"Old steel-clad farts" may be a bit over the top, though I'm sure it sounds very intellectual in Latin... Laughing


Okay for us educationally challanged what is it in Latin?

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Pertinax Up one side of the Triangle, Proprius Down the other, and Incommodus across the base

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How about we put the Latin (what's Latin for cantankerous?) on a scroll beneath the triangle or in the lower quadrant of the circle?

"Old steel-clad farts" may be a bit over the top, though I'm sure it sounds very intellectual in Latin... Laughing
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Make the Triangle larger, Ditch the Flag

What about the Words "Obstinate" "Argumentative" (Something meaning detail oriented) along each side of the Triangle (Maybe even put them in Latin or another Language)


"Pertinax, Proprius, Incommodus" Laughing

...and, Yep...the flag is too "modern" and will severely limit it's marketability among certain demographics....
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Make the Triangle larger, Ditch the Flag

What about the Words "Obstinate" "Argumentative" (Something meaning detail oriented) along each side of the Triangle (Maybe even put them in Latin or another Language)

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This is about what I had in mind:



Alternatively, instead of using tanks, we could show crossed sabers, crossed rifles and a classic spokewheeled gun in recognition of the roots.

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Hmmm,

I dunno, that CIA on the T-Shirt design certainly draws attention to the wearer, since the explanatory part is rather small- I'd still rather go for a crest/badge-type of design and instead of the individual nations, we could use the UN flag? These designs usually draw less attention as well, since most people assume it's another university or something, plus most people won't make the connection from "Curmudgeons in Armor" to CIA anyways.

I also feel so limited using just one tank design, it kind of gives the false impression we are only interested in one era...

I'll kick it around some more, maybe I can even visualize something- I'll do it the old way and doodle it on paper, followed by scanning it in... Yeah, 21st century technology has a firm grip on me. Laughing

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I can also cobble up a "mythical" tank silhouette...totally generic. Should also be "old" and not modern-looking. I wanted something that we could feel comfortable in while mingling with the public on planes, buses, in crowds, etc. in various parts of the world without "political" entanglements. If you start putting national symbols of any sort on there, this could get to be a problem, depending on who, and where, you are.


Why not use the tank off the russian tankers badge - thats quite generic and would look good?



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I'll let you submit that one to Cafepress, I don't care for any surprize-laced caipirinhas, thanks very much! Wink
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I can also cobble up a "mythical" tank silhouette...totally generic. Should also be "old" and not modern-looking. I wanted something that we could feel comfortable in while mingling with the public on planes, buses, in crowds, etc. in various parts of the world without "political" entanglements. If you start putting national symbols of any sort on there, this could get to be a problem, depending on who, and where, you are.


Why not use the tank off the russian tankers badge - thats quite generic and would look good?



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The Not-A-Sherman, Mark XII, Panzerkampfwagen VIII, KV-IV, A7-4A!

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What about an FT-17 silouette as the basis. It's old, they were used everywhere, The tracks and turret stand out

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How about a Tanker who is 'ordered' to apply face paint since the Infantry Bn had all their guys in paint.


When I was posted to Bovington - the regiment that was already there (QDG IIRC) was having a parade and I was drafted in (to fill holes in the ranks I suspect) anyway at the dress rehearsal this very young 2lt in charge of our particular column came up to me and.. anyway it went like this

2lt: I say could you wear one of our cap badges for the parade rather than your lancer one?

me <long cold stare straight into his eyes>

2lt <starting to look uncomfortable and probably wondering which was the best line of retreat>

me: no -go away!

Curiously enough they didn't need me for the real parade...

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