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Interesting photo of a Sherman Firefly
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 6:49 pm
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Note near gun mantlet



Appears to be an AT projectile that struck and luckily for crew inside , projectile bounced off armour.

From the information I have this particular Firefly served with South African forces in Italy during WWII.

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....Bet that rang the crews 'bell'....

"BING!!" ....DRIVER BACK UP!!!!.....

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 12:53 am
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....Bet that rang the crews 'bell'....

"BING!!" ....DRIVER BACK UP!!!!.....

Don


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 1:44 am
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Or, in the words of the German gunner:

"Missed it by that much....."
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 7:43 am
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Hi Dirk! Hi Folks!

Any idea where that S.A. Firefly is at? Shocked

Thanks for the photo!
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 10:04 am
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The Germans did some testing on noise levels inside a tank when hit. When hit by machinegun fire, it was 115-121 dB range, with 2cm fire in the 126-131 range. IIRC the threshold of pain is about 130 dB, a bursted eardrum happens at about 180 db, so assuming that noise increases with caliber in a linear fashion, a 75mm "ding" on the turret could be be rather unpleasant Smile

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 10:23 am
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Close is only in Horse Shoes and Hand Grenades, but that was a near miss!
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 10:31 am
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- Roy_A_Lingle

Any idea where that S.A. Firefly is at?


This Sherman is located in South Africa. In my spare time I am trying to view and photograph all examples of WWII Armour in South Africa.

Heck , even travelled about 600 kilometers to view and photograph a single 76mm Sherman . Yes I know , I should get another hobby Mr. Green

But it is kinda cool to view these machines - from the engineering and historical perspectives.

Another close-up shot.

OK this looks yucky because I had to electronically add the flash. Time to upgrade the 1652 digital camera Laughing



As far as I know I have viewed and photographed all 4 examples of the Sherman Firefly preserved in South Africa.

Thanks for a great forum

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The Germans did some testing on noise levels inside a tank when hit. When hit by machinegun fire, it was 115-121 dB range, with 2cm fire in the 126-131 range. IIRC the threshold of pain is about 130 dB, a bursted eardrum happens at about 180 db, so assuming that noise increases with caliber in a linear fashion, a 75mm "ding" on the turret could be be rather unpleasant Smile

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Claus

An important note to that would be the wearing of vehicle protective helmets with 'ear phones'. There is a remarkable amount of hearing protection afforded to the crew by wearing the helmets.

It is still a 'deafening' profession. (The proof being my own hearing loss and constant 'ringing' in my ears after 21 years in and around tanks!)

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Close is only in Horse Shoes and Hand Grenades, but that was a near miss!


The phrase I use is "Close only counts in horseshoes, hand grenades and thermonuclear weapons - but there the definition of close changes"

I call hits like that 'ice cream scoops' because that is what they look like to me. Several vehicles at Aberdeen have them including the JagdTiger. It has several on the frnt armor. The Nashorn at Aberdeen has one on the gun barrel where the incoming round clipped the barrel on the way in then appears to have taken out the cross brace of the travel support before entering the vehicle on the front deck/glacias

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 3:00 pm
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It is still a 'deafening' profession. (The proof being my own hearing loss and constant 'ringing' in my ears after 21 years in and around tanks!)

Don


Huh? Say again, please.

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hi folks
Fore the lovers of firefly's here's a link from one in running conditionrestoring a sherman firefly

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 4:35 pm
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Hi Bob

came across this website with a photo of the APG jagdtiger I hadn't seen before. take a look

www.panzerphotos.dk/jagdtiger.html

Jeff Lewis
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 8:20 pm
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very nice photos dirk, humh?-- anything else interesting or out of the ordinary on the vehicle?

what do they say, pictures can say a thousand words...
i am glad the crew lived to tell about it. wonder what the german side of the story is? for the germans, probably their first shot, engaged at 2000m plus, at dusk, little drizzle, heavy clouds, strong crosswind, target just barely visible...

thanks!
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 9:58 pm
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Close is only in Horse Shoes and Hand Grenades, but that was a near miss!


The phrase I use is "Close only counts in horseshoes, hand grenades and thermonuclear weapons - but there the definition of close changes"


Okay, I was close! Laughing Looks like the shot came from the rear of the turret.
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