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Anyone got an idea on this????



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Hi Dontos! Hi Folks!

Interesting!

I read a number of the posts over at Michael Yon site.

I question the call that is a toy. Look at that scope. If it was toy, why spend that much money for a nice rifle scope? While it looks like a toy to me, I don't think it is.

Some have called it a recoilless rifle. Doesn't look like it has a breach block assemble on the rear end of it.

Some have called it a potato launcher. While someone like me might have some fun building and using a potato launcher, why would someone who has RPG rockets waste their time building a launcher for potatos?

Some have called it an anti-aircraft weapon. Based on that RPG warhead laying next to it and having seen full size Redeyes, Stingers, and SA7s, I don't think it is big enough to be an anti-aircraft missle launcher.

If that thing was a manufactured weapon, why haven't we seen more of them?

My call:

Someone has/had a supply of RPG rockets and DIDN'T have a launcher for them. Being that someone was a bit handy with tools, he/they made a launcher from some lumber, some pipes, and a few screws.

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Maybe a 75mm sniper rifle? Wink

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Hi Dontos! Hi Folks!

Interesting!

I read a number of the posts over at Michael Yon site.

I question the call that is a toy. Look at that scope. If it was toy, why spend that much money for a nice rifle scope? While it looks like a toy to me, I don't think it is.

Some have called it a recoilless rifle. Doesn't look like it has a breach block assemble on the rear end of it.

Some have called it a potato launcher. While someone like me might have some fun building and using a potato launcher, why would someone who has RPG rockets waste their time building a launcher for potatos?

Some have called it an anti-aircraft weapon. Based on that RPG warhead laying next to it and having seen full size Redeyes, Stingers, and SA7s, I don't think it is big enough to be an anti-aircraft missle launcher.

If that thing was a manufactured weapon, why haven't we seen more of them?

My call:

Someone has/had a supply of RPG rockets and DIDN'T have a launcher for them. Being that someone was a bit handy with tools, he/they made a launcher from some lumber, some pipes, and a few screws.

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At first I thought toy, then looking at the scope figured it was some movie prop/paintball weapon or something made for the serious recreational market. But after looking at the site and seeing it is with real RPG weapons I wonder if it is a modern production weapon. I don't think I agree with the 'cobbled together from lumper, pipes and screws'. From what little I've seen of improvised weapons this one appears to be finished to too high a standard. It would be interesting to see other pictures to help determine if it is a 'one off' or a production item

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When I brighten it up and enlarge it on my screen, I notice a carry handle and some other appendage on the "round" at bottom. What's up with that?

I don't think it's a toy, but a crafted downsized launcher for stealthy carry or transport. Looks risky to use, too, but these are insurgents. Not much clearance for gases for the guy firing the thing, if it is, in fact, real.

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Hi everyone,
It could be a prop designed to get a kid shot by coalition forces. Unfortunately there are Imams and other influential people that have been giving very realistic toy weapons (AK, MP-5, M4 etc.) to kids in the mahalla's that actually fire pellets. (My friend came very close to killing one). Until you get within 4 to 5 feet you'd swear they were real. You don't need to guess what they are hoping for. All it takes is a young troop that's nervous and a kid to point it at him. Even something that strange looking could get you shot.

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Hi everyone,
It could be a prop designed to get a kid shot by coalition forces. Unfortunately there are Imams and other influential people that have been giving very realistic toy weapons (AK, MP-5, M4 etc.) to kids in the mahalla's that actually fire pellets. (My friend came very close to killing one). Until you get within 4 to 5 feet you'd swear they were real. You don't need to guess what they are hoping for. All it takes is a young troop that's nervous and a kid to point it at him. Even something that strange looking could get you shot.

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That's such an appalling alien concept that it obviously didn't even occur to me. I'm familiar with encountering younger soldiers, but with real weapons that fire real projectiles. The kind of blatant disregard for the lives of children that would expend them with no chance of their fighting back, just for the sheer PR value of their death still doesn't come easily to the forefront of this old soldiers mind.

Thanks for the reminder....I think. Sad
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Looking down the thread where this picture came from one person had an idea that is making some sense to me

This person postulates that since this was found with real RPGs it may be a training aid where the trainee can sight the 'target' through the scope while the trainer views through the tube (boresight) to check out the trainee's aim.

As far as the prop designed to create an 'incident' I remember when toy guns here in the States began getting the orange muzzle caps because of incidents where police officers reacted when they had toys pointed at them.

I also remember the reports during the Iran/Iraq war of the use of young teenagers (and possibly younger children) being used by both sides to test areas for mines and other impediments before attacks. No matter how much I hear stories of 'they don't value life the way we do' I really hope there is a special place in Hell for people use such tactics

Sorry for the soapbox (I take that back I'm not sorry at all)

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Sorry guys,
Didn't mean to hit a nerve,

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Sorry guys,
Didn't mean to hit a nerve,

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No apology necessary, Joe. Dose of reality time, and you're the man on the scene. We're looking for answers and your postulation is as good as any we have at the moment.

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Sorry guys,
Didn't mean to hit a nerve,

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No apology necessary, Joe. Dose of reality time, and you're the man on the scene. We're looking for answers and your postulation is as good as any we have at the moment.

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Dittos.

But the fact it has a real scope on it makes me question the 'kid's toy' idea. A simple tube for a sight (maybe with thread cross hairs) would be good enough for that.

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I saw this image about two months ago - its a toy from one of those action figure sets as is the RPG in the same image..

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Wow, talk about not seeing the forest for the trees. Now that I look at it, the dirt particles etc in the background look off - too large... There's a lesson about identification in here somewhere...

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This should end this thread...

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Wasn't that the same "guy" taken "hostage" at one point?
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