±Recent Visitors

Recent Visitors to Com-Central!

±User Info-big


Welcome Anonymous

Nickname
Password

Membership:
Latest: HighestAce
New Today: 0
New Yesterday: 0
Overall: 6648

People Online:
Members: 0
Visitors: 239
Total: 239
Who Is Where:
 Visitors:
01: Photo Gallery
02: Community Forums
03: Community Forums
04: Community Forums
05: Community Forums
06: Photo Gallery
07: Home
08: Downloads
09: Community Forums
10: Community Forums
11: Home
12: Home
13: Community Forums
14: Community Forums
15: Community Forums
16: Home
17: Home
18: Member Screenshots
19: Community Forums
20: Photo Gallery
21: Photo Gallery
22: Community Forums
23: Home
24: Community Forums
25: Home
26: Community Forums
27: Community Forums
28: Your Account
29: Downloads
30: CPGlang
31: CPGlang
32: Home
33: Member Screenshots
34: Community Forums
35: Home
36: Community Forums
37: Community Forums
38: Community Forums
39: Photo Gallery
40: Home
41: Photo Gallery
42: Downloads
43: Community Forums
44: Downloads
45: Photo Gallery
46: Community Forums
47: Statistics
48: CPGlang
49: Community Forums
50: Community Forums
51: Downloads
52: Community Forums
53: CPGlang
54: Community Forums
55: Photo Gallery
56: Community Forums
57: Statistics
58: Statistics
59: Statistics
60: Statistics
61: Community Forums
62: Community Forums
63: Home
64: Downloads
65: Community Forums
66: Community Forums
67: Community Forums
68: Community Forums
69: Community Forums
70: Community Forums
71: Community Forums
72: Community Forums
73: Community Forums
74: Community Forums
75: Community Forums
76: Community Forums
77: Community Forums
78: Community Forums
79: Community Forums
80: Community Forums
81: Home
82: Home
83: Home
84: Community Forums
85: Home
86: Community Forums
87: Community Forums
88: Community Forums
89: Community Forums
90: Downloads
91: Home
92: Home
93: Community Forums
94: Community Forums
95: Community Forums
96: Photo Gallery
97: Your Account
98: Downloads
99: Home
100: Community Forums
101: Photo Gallery
102: News
103: Home
104: Community Forums
105: Community Forums
106: Community Forums
107: Community Forums
108: Community Forums
109: Downloads
110: Community Forums
111: Photo Gallery
112: Community Forums
113: Downloads
114: Community Forums
115: Home
116: CPGlang
117: Community Forums
118: Your Account
119: Home
120: Community Forums
121: Community Forums
122: Community Forums
123: Photo Gallery
124: Community Forums
125: Community Forums
126: Community Forums
127: Community Forums
128: Community Forums
129: Tell a Friend
130: Statistics
131: Community Forums
132: Home
133: Community Forums
134: Community Forums
135: Community Forums
136: Community Forums
137: Community Forums
138: Community Forums
139: Community Forums
140: Community Forums
141: Community Forums
142: CPGlang
143: Home
144: Downloads
145: Community Forums
146: Downloads
147: Member Screenshots
148: Community Forums
149: Photo Gallery
150: Photo Gallery
151: Downloads
152: Photo Gallery
153: Your Account
154: Photo Gallery
155: Photo Gallery
156: Community Forums
157: Home
158: Community Forums
159: Member Screenshots
160: Home
161: Photo Gallery
162: Home
163: Community Forums
164: Home
165: Statistics
166: Photo Gallery
167: CPGlang
168: Community Forums
169: CPGlang
170: Community Forums
171: Community Forums
172: Photo Gallery
173: Photo Gallery
174: Statistics
175: Community Forums
176: Photo Gallery
177: Photo Gallery
178: Photo Gallery
179: Community Forums
180: Community Forums
181: Home
182: Photo Gallery
183: Community Forums
184: Home
185: Home
186: Home
187: Community Forums
188: Community Forums
189: Your Account
190: Community Forums
191: CPGlang
192: Community Forums
193: Home
194: Community Forums
195: Home
196: Community Forums
197: Member Screenshots
198: Community Forums
199: Community Forums
200: Community Forums
201: Community Forums
202: Downloads
203: Home
204: Community Forums
205: CPGlang
206: Community Forums
207: Downloads
208: Home
209: Community Forums
210: Community Forums
211: Photo Gallery
212: Community Forums
213: Community Forums
214: Home
215: Downloads
216: Statistics
217: Home
218: Home
219: Home
220: Photo Gallery
221: Community Forums
222: Home
223: CPGlang
224: Community Forums
225: Community Forums
226: Statistics
227: Community Forums
228: Your Account
229: Community Forums
230: Member Screenshots
231: Member Screenshots
232: Photo Gallery
233: Your Account
234: Home
235: Home
236: Photo Gallery
237: CPGlang
238: Home
239: Member Screenshots

Staff Online:

No staff members are online!
Old Centurions in a field?
The AFV ASSOCIATION was formed in 1964 to support the thoughts and research of all those interested in Armored Fighting Vehicles and related topics, such as AFV drawings. The emphasis has always been on sharing information and communicating with other members of similar interests; e.g. German armor, Japanese AFVs, or whatever.
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page     Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board

View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
Larso
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Apr 09, 2007
Posts: 9

PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 8:50 am
Post subject: Old Centurions in a field?

I've had a look about but I can't find anything on this.

I'm wondering whether any of the Australian armies centurions are still sitting about in a field. I recall reading about them in the newspaper years ago (there was a picture too), with I think the mention that some had been sold off to farmers as tractors (without their guns). But then at the end of last year I saw a doco on the ABC I think, about a Vietnam crew that were reunited quite recently and as part of their 'catch-up' they went to this same field and found their old tank still there. The point of the story was that the one crewman had been terribly wounded in action in that tank and after evacuation and recuperation came home and went about his life - never speaking to his former crewmates until the story.

Anyway, this show ('Australian Story'? - there was also a car racing sub-plot to it as well - I think one of them was injured in a crash?), seemed quite recent and I was wondering whether anyone knows anymore about this field and whether it still has any Centurions?

_________________
Formerly of 2/14th Light Horse
Back to top
View user's profile
Dennis_Smith
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Mar 17, 2006
Posts: 192

PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 11:10 pm
Post subject: Re: Old Centurions in a field?

Hey Larso,

Here's a link to the story:

www.abc.net.au/austory...411828.htm


Last edited by Dennis_Smith on Tue May 08, 2007 10:04 am; edited 1 time in total
Back to top
View user's profile
Larso
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Apr 09, 2007
Posts: 9

PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 2:20 am
Post subject: Re: Old Centurions in a field?

Thanks Dennis!

This is a quote from the transcript of that story -

BILL BARLOW, VIETNAM VETERAN: All our old Centurion tanks were up there at a place the other side of Albury out on this farm. And, actually, the tank that we were in when we got hit by this RPG, it was up there too. And so it was just great going up there and seeing this tank and where it had been hit and, yeah, there was a lot of nostalgia attached to it all. But the main thing is just meeting up with all the old crew members again and just becoming friends once again.

I'm going to try to find the article that I read in the paper - hopefully it'll be on the newstext site.

John

_________________
Formerly of 2/14th Light Horse
Back to top
View user's profile
Larso
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Apr 09, 2007
Posts: 9

PostPosted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 1:01 am
Post subject: Re: Old Centurions in a field?

Well I had no luck with the old newspaper articles but I did find the following relevant web pages (providing I've done the cut & paste thing properly) -


Fri, May 06, 2005 The Border Mail By Howard Jones

MOST of the 132ha sold to Abacus has not been needed for the military since about 1986.
The former Pearces farm south of Pearce St was compulsorily acquired in 1940 and became part of the Central Ordnance Depot, later 311 Supply Battalion.
Large sheds accessed by standard and broad-gauge railway lines were laid out on the site.
About 100 redundant Centurion tanks were stored on the land until sold in 1989.

Larso: This is a very interesting site which contains advice about buying and restoring Centurions : www.raeme.net/spt.php?...nts&item=1

He concludes with –
OK! What should you pay for a Centurion.
• Excellent Condition$45,000-$50,000
• A Good Runner$30,000.
• A Fair Runner (blowing smoke)$16,000 to $20,000.
• A Gate Guard$8,000.

These are the opinions of a chap that cannot afford a gate guard. Good luck. I do know where most of the Australian Centurions are, 124 out of 143. I also know the condition of most of them and have driven a heap. If I can be of any help to anyone in any way please contact me.
Regards Col

(Larso: I’ve written to him to enquire if any of those Centurions are still there and available. Below is an article by the man himself.)

About Col Filtness
My name is Col Filtness and I am an old Centurion driver from the early 50's. I decided to drive to Puckapunyal to view the Tank Museum, as I only live 20 minutes away in Kilmore. The trop was great and I was surprised to see so many Cents around the place. On the way home I started to wonder where my old tank was 169007. As time went by, (about 24 hours) I decided to start looking for it. I hoped to find between 12 and 20 Centurions, in fact I found 120 odd from a possible 143. This I found astounding. Then to find some running still and in some cases better than when they were in service, was also surprising.
I was surprised to discover a few and thought I should write it all down in a notebook with serial numbers and locations. From this it grew to taking photos, which meant in a lot of cases, revisiting many I had found. From there it progressed to maybe writing a book as I was finding so much of interest to me that I thought others may like to share it. This soon came to an abrupt halt as the quality I wanted made the book worth about $400 a copy. No one would be interested in anything I had to say for that price.
So I decided to go the computer C. D. way. This meant I could do the lot myself, and most people today have a computer so it would appeal to a wide range of people. The cost of paper and ink plus binding went out the door to be replaced by some CD's, some printer ink and a few CD labels. Lots cheaper. I could also burn them myself. From here it just snowballed. People started to assist me, a couple of friends traveled with me over thousands of miles to look at and photograph tanks taking about ½ hour and then driving home again. But I could not have done the miles without their company and help.
I found it hard to imagine the people I was meeting. Nothing was to much trouble, no one would take any money for expenses, and I mean people supplied me with their tank for a drive would not take anything for fuel, I have been offered accommodation and meals from people that I have never met, one chap gave me the keys to his farming property, as he had to return to Sydney after two days, with the instructions that when I wanted to leave, just lock up and switch off the gas. And if I was ever up in the Snowy Mountains, I knew where the key was and I was welcome to just call in and stay, if there was no one around I knew where the key was! Not bad for a bloke I met via email and had never met till two days before.
The search used the email a lot and people started to email me with information of where they had seen or thought there were Centurions. I found that places that were out of bounds to me were suddenly becoming available. People connected with the Army and the Museums were bending over to assist me and its with out a doubt that they all helped the CD not only be finished but to be as good as it is. At this point I will point out that to me it was a labor of love, and I enjoyed every minute of the search. But after reading and viewing the CD about one thousand times, I did start to wonder just what sort of impact it would have on the people that were paying good money for it. The results were well beyond my highest expectations.
When I was still in the book form I was asking people to supply stories, photos and information, with the rider that I would not sell the story to make money for myself. By the time I was into the CD stage I knew it would have to be offered for sale as there was no way I could cover the costs myself, which up to this time it had been considerable. I was then stumped as my original idea said I would not make money from it. Some people suggested I just sell it to cover my costs, but I had no idea what the costs were and was afraid to sit down and try and work it out, so that was a no go.
Now when I first started on the story I found that no one would let me climb onto or into their Centurions. You cannot imagine, in your wildest dreams, how badly I wanted to sit in that seat again. But the insurance worry was the stopper and I could not complain. I t was at this time I rang the Vietnam Veterans Museum at San Remo, asking if I could photograph and enter their Centurion. Permission was granted and so my association with the museum and many Veterans started. I then decided to offer the CD to the Museum so they could sell it and raise some money for the new museum they are building. This gave me an out let of sale as well, and as I was not handling the cash I felt I was keeping my word to the people who in the early stages gave me assistance. So I burnt some Master Disks and presented them to the Museum complete with a computer, and set it up so they could have it running for anyone that wanted to see it.
The search of course led me to the Vietnam War and I started to meet many Vets who shared their stories and photos with me, which opened up a whole new area. As I had visited Vietnam I was aware o f some of the feelings, the heat, the people, the country and the villages, so the stories were very special to me as were the photos, and I started to get some understanding of what the Vets endured, enjoyed and hated about their tours. For someone that was too young for Korea and too old for Vietnam, it was a privilege to meet and talk to and be accepted by these people.
I am now working on a website, where I hope to put a lot of the information and photos for all to see. Just have to workout how to do it.
Col Filtness

Larso: One at least is still going strong -

Ever wondered what it would be like to be in the turret and command a massive 55 ton Centurion Battle Tank? Here’s your chance to experience the Rolls Royce engine roaring into life before your skilled driver has the tank thunder over undulating terrain while you enjoy the action.
Firstly you will explore the interior of the tank and see how the four man crew used to operate. Only two passengers travel at a time with the driver/instructor. You’ll climb up into the turret then the massive machine sets off. The V12 petrol engine is the same type that powers the Spitfire and Mustang fighters. You will travel over a special course, up and down hills and over undulating terrain.
Venue:
Mornington Peninsula, Victoria.
Valid For:
1 person
Guidelines:
You must be able to climb into the turret.
Numbers:
There are only 2 passengers in the tank at any one time.
Weather:
This experience may be cancelled in heavy, continuous rain conditions and will be rescheduled at a later date.
Session Length:
The session will last approx 20 min, which includes a vehicle familiarisation and history.
Extra Info:
Please booked around 3 to 4 weeks in advance of preferred date.
This experience voucher is valid for six months from date of purchase.

Price: $125

_________________
Formerly of 2/14th Light Horse
Back to top
View user's profile
Shadow_Banshee
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Feb 03, 2005
Posts: 575

PostPosted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 4:22 pm
Post subject: Re: Old Centurions in a field?

members.tripod.com/bat...ank_page_1

_________________
Lay me place and bake me Pie
I'm starving for me Gravy
Back to top
View user's profile
Larso
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Apr 09, 2007
Posts: 9

PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 6:39 am
Post subject: Re: Old Centurions in a field?

Mr Fitness has written back to me and there are still a few Centurions still there -

Hi John, Just about all are now gone. I believe there are about 7 left and the going price last time I spoke with the owner was $50000 each.
There is one for sale at Cowra for $35000 with a lot of spare parts. This is owned by an ex RAEME mechanic and is in very good order and runs well. Has a tooth missing off the rhs final drive but hje has a complete reconditioned final drive in his shed for it. The guy, Bruce Holt is a nice fellow and his price is the best available at the moment and I feel it will also best in the future. There have not been many available in the last 12 months and a sale at Dandenong museum blew the price right over the top. Hope this is some help to you. You may wish to see my site on Centurions, if so the address is below and I also have 4 CD's for sale. Regards Col

Col Filtness www.centurion-mbt.com

_________________
Formerly of 2/14th Light Horse
Back to top
View user's profile
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page    Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board
Page 1 of 1
All times are GMT - 6 Hours



Jump to:  


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You cannot download files in this forum