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USA (NOW V3.0!), Canada, France and Belgium AFV Registers
The AFV ASSOCIATION was formed in 1964 to support the thoughts and research of all those interested in Armored Fighting Vehicles and related topics, such as AFV drawings. The emphasis has always been on sharing information and communicating with other members of similar interests; e.g. German armor, Japanese AFVs, or whatever.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 12:51 pm
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Michel, you're welcome..

Neil, I checked your USA register and compared the vehicles list for the Auburn WW2 museum with a photo gallery published on Flickr, and it seems that you forgot some vehicles. Here is the gallery :

Auburn museum gallery

Vehicles that you forgot are :
-Unic p107 armoured Half-Track
http://www.odkrywca-online.pl/slajd.php?gn=victory&f=unicp107-2b.jpg

-Lorraine 37L (short chassis, 2 bogies)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/tlucal/3085991630/in/set-72157603746206028/

RSO Pak :
http://www.flickr.com/photos/tlucal/3085994954/in/set-72157603746206028/

British Universal carrier w/ German markings :
http://www.flickr.com/photos/tlucal/3085157025/in/set-72157603746206028/

German armoured Half-Track.. I don't know which type (maybe an sWs??)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/tlucal/3086013492/in/set-72157603746206028/

One of the 3 remaining Opel Maultier Rocket launcher still surviving :
http://www.flickr.com/photos/tlucal/3085174097/in/set-72157603746206028/

This one, I don't know what it is... but it's a tank
http://www.flickr.com/photos/tlucal/3086013586/in/set-72157603746206028/

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 1:45 pm
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Michel, you're welcome..

Neil, I checked your USA register and compared the vehicles list for the Auburn WW2 museum with a photo gallery published on Flickr, and it seems that you forgot some vehicles. Here is the gallery :


This one, I don't know what it is... but it's a tank
http://www.flickr.com/photos/tlucal/3086013586/in/set-72157603746206028/

P-O


That tank is a Chieftain !!

My question is, are all the other vehicles mentioned the genuine article?

I really love that RSO w/ PAK40.

I gotta get up to Auburn, someday.

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 2:10 pm
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Most of the vehicles came from a museum in France, so I think all are at least partially genuine - although I have heard many have some mocked up components or upper hulls...

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 10:22 pm
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It comes from a museum in Belgium indeed (the city of Arlon is not in France, maybe it will be one day..) Wink

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 2:56 pm
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Neil
An unlisted M60A3 appeard on waymarking.com, it's located Okeechobee, Florida. See www.waymarking.com/waymarks/WM5ENF

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 1:49 am
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Thanks - looks like that was added to waymarking.com just a few days ago. And based on Google Street Maps it appears to be an actual recent addition as well!

maps.google.com/maps?f...1525561387

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 31, 2008 8:12 pm
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Wonder where She came from?

Hopefully another rescued from being a range target instead of a transfer from another location. Add her to my list. Thanks Michel.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 10:13 pm
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http://planetarmor.com/forums/showthread.php?s=f7cbb7f42262a2679ac4acc9366ad6f2&t=4942&page=3

The guys talk about a SdKfz 254 (Saurer RK-7) which is currently in a private collection in the US :

"Funny thing was that, postwar, one of these was used to make a 'tank' whereby a Czech family escaped to the West. The vehicle made a tour of the US to help sell bonds and on the D-day anniversary of 2005, it resided in the collection of Jim Gilmore of Pennsylvania."

"The only problem with that is that the Czech man changed the superstructure to look more "Russian" There are pictures of it in its transfigured form in the front cover of, I beleive, MMiR Issue 40. There is another one that resided at Aberdeen, but was recently sent to Munster."

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 12:32 am
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here is a thirty year old picture of the Aberdeen one

sorry for the poor quality but it's a digital photo of the original slide

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 8:06 am
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Piney,

according to Rudi Ehninger, "The vehicle there was captured in Lybia in 1943 and sent to Aberdeen for evaluation. It is a wheel cum track machine!

End of the 80s this example were handed over to the WTS-Collection together with the SdKfz 231. While the 231 was perfectly restored, the SdKfz 254 still waits for restoration. It is in storage and wasn't presented to the public since then."

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Neil

Any idea what happened to this Panther (or the one in the background??)



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 10:54 pm
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Don,
I'll have to take a look at my photos. Any chance this one was marked with "FMCV" and a number?

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 13, 2009 12:14 am
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What you see is all there was. I assume those are both Panthers, just wondering if its gone to the recycling 'dweeb'.

Interesting though
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 10:56 am
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Neil

Another "new" M60 at the Texas armory in Rosenberg, Texas
Pictures; groups.yahoo.com/group...6/pic/list
According the one who posted them its witout the engine and is on loan from Camp Mabry in Austin, Texas

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 8:16 pm
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Neil

Something old, but I can't find it in the register
M3A3 Stuart at the VFW in Minerva, OH
groups.yahoo.com/group...ssage/2621

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