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PostPosted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 12:27 am
Post subject: Re: Surviving Panzers website (now incl. British tanks)

- the_shadock
hello,

trying to update the Italian medium and heavy tanks PDF file with the new tank hull from Alice Castello, there is something I don't understand :

This one is the one now at Forte Bramafam
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This one seems to be still at Alice Castello :
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However, these two photos seem to be reversed, because the MG bow is on the wrong side.

Now, there is another hull (seems to be different from the two other ones). Were there 3 different M15/42 hulls at Alice Castello?
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Pierre-Olivier - at one point I thought there might be 3 hulls, but I have found no evidence of it. I believe that photo is off this tank, the one with the small mantlet opening (and it is reversed which is what I meant when I wrote 'Picture is mirror image'):

preservedtanks.com/Pro...queID=1557

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 7:34 pm
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T26 (7TP) restoration, Poland.

odkrywca.pl/projekt-7t...64345.html
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 8:01 pm
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RSO

Leningrad area?
odkrywca.pl/raupenschl...52817.html


German Mining Museum, Bochum
same source


Same vehicle?


From same thread as above.


Norway, same Polish website!


Ditto!


Several photos of RSO bits, same vehicle's remains (same Polish website)


No prizes for website this is from!
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 8:46 pm
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ZSU 57/2 in Poland.
commons.wikimedia.org/...Warsaw.JPG
One of the one's that's moved?
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 8:36 am
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T26 (7TP) restoration, Poland.

odkrywca.pl/projekt-7t...64345.html


From my knowledge only the tracks are from T26
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 8:42 am
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ZSU 57/2 in Poland.
commons.wikimedia.org/...Warsaw.JPG
One of the one's that's moved?


This ZSU-57-2 wasn't moved.

It is still in Polish Army Museum, Warsaw (Poland)

The ZSU-57-2 from Cytadel in Warsaw (ex-Land Forces Museum in Warsaw) will be moved
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 9:10 pm
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More RSO

Austria?


Unknown location.


(Originally from eag.unicweb.ee/m01.html )


Unknown location


Unknown location




www.odkrywca.pl/raupen...tml#443517

It is, of course, possible that some of these are already included in the .pdf in a restored state (Especially the last one?)
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 12:01 am
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It is, of course, possible that some of these are already included in the .pdf in a restored state (Especially the last one?) Pzkpfw-ePosts: 279
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Pzkpfw-e

Yes you are right with that remark
And the ones from Norway you mentioned are not there anymore
I am still searchin were they are now ,so I won't take em in the list as it also could be that these are
allready in the list under another name because the pics are older
Some others you found are not RSO but Russian Tractors
As with the cabines I will do something with that in a next update
As for now there was an update today for the RSO list
the.shadock.free.fr/Su...er_Ost.pdf

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 10:48 am
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Thanks Walter.
I guess that the red one listed as being in a mining museum is a Russian, different wheel spacing, now I look at it more closely.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 04, 2011 11:00 pm
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ikamien.pl/artykuly/1650/
FAMO?

"Once he delivered the cannon and ammunition for the Wehrmacht, and later one of the residents Mi?dzywodzie used it in the forest for wood transport. Tractor "Famo boxer", produced in the interwar period by the Germans in Wroclaw, the German soldiers serving in Swinoujscie - Szczecin Courier informs.

- Tractor handle one of the Kriegsmarine coastal battery on the right bank of Swinoujscie on the island of Wolin. Shortly after the war went straight from the battery to one of the hosts of Mi?dzywodzie and there for many years been used on the farm - Peter betrays REF history enthusiast and tenant Fort Gerhard in Swinoujscie.

For body parts preserved fragments of yellow-sand color, which the Germans painted vehicles of the Wehrmacht. The tractor is also equipped with a number of unusual hooks and hooks that were used for attaching guns, ammunition wagons and platforms from destructive military equipment. A small tracked machine weighing less than three tons - thanks to modern chassis - gave great advice on a sandy and steep coastal dunes, forests and meadows - inform the courier of Szczecin.

A fan of history learned by chance that this vehicle is under Mi?dzywodzie and bought it from the host. Now the car has to pass a comprehensive renovation"
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 4:50 pm
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From the same album.
www.flickr.com/photos/...188302838/
It can't be a recent photo, can it??????
www.flickr.com/photos/...188316424/
"T2" (M2?) in Antarctica.
www.flickr.com/photos/...188226502/
RSO engine & gear box
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 06, 2011 11:09 am
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For fellow Pzkpfw-e
The red car in the picture is not the RSO. It is a Russian multi-purpose tractor TDT 55A, or forestry tractor LKhT-55. Similar tractors were manufactured in the Soviet Union since the fifties of last century.




Reference in Russian
www.r-les.ru/spravochn...t_55a.html
ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/...E%D1%80%29
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 06, 2011 9:18 pm
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picasaweb.google.com/C...IALBELICO#
May have a few new ones here?
"Friends, good morning! Yesterday, 29/10/2010, Friday, was celebrated at the School of Army Ordnance, now known as the School of Logistics NCO, the Day of the Board of Ordnance, with great solemnity, which included representatives of all the troops Army logistics area of Rio de Janeiro. General Officers attended the Active and Reserve unit commanders, officials, guests and family in a beautiful ceremony, which once again had a representation of the car CVMARJ, who paraded in front of large motorized device, and then were exposed in central courtyard of the school, one of the highlights of the show. School shooting and we visiting historic cars, some on static display (Sherman, Lee, M 3, X1 and X 1 A 1 A 2), other parade (M 41, Fiat Ansaldo) and others in mautenção (Renault, Mullus, EE 12 , JPX, M 4). GO AHEAD! Sergio Capella. RP-CVMARJ."
picasaweb.google.com/C...9333789746
FT 17
This one's got a 37mm cannon, same one as .pdf, but with a change of gun?
picasaweb.google.com/C...6020920914
L3/35, looks like it's a runner. Again, same one as in .pdf, but with a new symbol painted on glacis plate?
picasaweb.google.com/C...4975715202
M2, or just an M3 Stuart?

picasaweb.google.com/C...1993589074
Deerhound turret?
picasaweb.google.com/C...DTENAMARO#

picasaweb.google.com/C...8032525234
??????????
picasaweb.google.com/C...SCONOZECA#

picasaweb.google.com/C...DADOS2010#
An array of Brazilians, including those Stuarts!
picasaweb.google.com/C...2358164370
Sherman Dozer.
picasaweb.google.com/C...8665997810
HST of some sort.
picasaweb.google.com/C...3660287538
Started life as a Sherman.
picasaweb.google.com/C...PQRMNT1RM#

picasaweb.google.com/F...7072251026
One for the plane fans, a big "Jug" & a little "Grasshopper"

These galleries are worth a browse.
picasaweb.google.com/F....2009.1Sem
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2011 12:41 am
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there are some interesting things there

at one of the picture's was something that looks like a M3 with a knuckle boom crane

picasaweb.google.com/C...6985611538

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2011 1:15 pm
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Interesting ARV based on Sherman

picasaweb.google.com/C...2358164370
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