±Recent Visitors

Recent Visitors to Com-Central!

±User Info-big


Welcome Anonymous

Nickname
Password

Membership:
Latest: HighestAce
New Today: 0
New Yesterday: 0
Overall: 6648

People Online:
Members: 0
Visitors: 478
Total: 478
Who Is Where:
 Visitors:
01: Community Forums
02: Downloads
03: Community Forums
04: News
05: Community Forums
06: Photo Gallery
07: Photo Gallery
08: Community Forums
09: Photo Gallery
10: Photo Gallery
11: Photo Gallery
12: Downloads
13: Home
14: Photo Gallery
15: Community Forums
16: Photo Gallery
17: Home
18: Home
19: Community Forums
20: Photo Gallery
21: Photo Gallery
22: Community Forums
23: Community Forums
24: Photo Gallery
25: Member Screenshots
26: Photo Gallery
27: Community Forums
28: News Archive
29: Community Forums
30: Community Forums
31: Community Forums
32: Home
33: Photo Gallery
34: Member Screenshots
35: Community Forums
36: Community Forums
37: Photo Gallery
38: Community Forums
39: Statistics
40: Home
41: Community Forums
42: Member Screenshots
43: Member Screenshots
44: Home
45: Downloads
46: Home
47: Home
48: Community Forums
49: Member Screenshots
50: Home
51: Your Account
52: CPGlang
53: Home
54: Community Forums
55: Member Screenshots
56: Community Forums
57: Community Forums
58: Home
59: Community Forums
60: Community Forums
61: Community Forums
62: Home
63: Downloads
64: Community Forums
65: Community Forums
66: CPGlang
67: Community Forums
68: Community Forums
69: Home
70: Community Forums
71: Photo Gallery
72: Community Forums
73: Community Forums
74: Community Forums
75: Community Forums
76: Community Forums
77: CPGlang
78: Home
79: Community Forums
80: Community Forums
81: News Archive
82: Downloads
83: Community Forums
84: Community Forums
85: Home
86: Downloads
87: Community Forums
88: Photo Gallery
89: Community Forums
90: Photo Gallery
91: CPGlang
92: Community Forums
93: Photo Gallery
94: Photo Gallery
95: Community Forums
96: Community Forums
97: Community Forums
98: Community Forums
99: Community Forums
100: Home
101: Community Forums
102: Member Screenshots
103: Home
104: Photo Gallery
105: Photo Gallery
106: Community Forums
107: CPGlang
108: Member Screenshots
109: Community Forums
110: Community Forums
111: Community Forums
112: Community Forums
113: CPGlang
114: Member Screenshots
115: Community Forums
116: Home
117: Community Forums
118: Community Forums
119: Community Forums
120: Community Forums
121: Photo Gallery
122: Member Screenshots
123: Member Screenshots
124: Photo Gallery
125: Community Forums
126: Community Forums
127: Home
128: Community Forums
129: Photo Gallery
130: Community Forums
131: Community Forums
132: Community Forums
133: Community Forums
134: Community Forums
135: Community Forums
136: Community Forums
137: Community Forums
138: Community Forums
139: Community Forums
140: CPGlang
141: Member Screenshots
142: Community Forums
143: Member Screenshots
144: Member Screenshots
145: CPGlang
146: Photo Gallery
147: Photo Gallery
148: News Archive
149: Community Forums
150: Statistics
151: Community Forums
152: Member Screenshots
153: Photo Gallery
154: Community Forums
155: Home
156: Community Forums
157: Community Forums
158: Community Forums
159: Community Forums
160: Community Forums
161: Community Forums
162: Community Forums
163: Community Forums
164: Community Forums
165: Home
166: Photo Gallery
167: Member Screenshots
168: Community Forums
169: Community Forums
170: Home
171: Member Screenshots
172: Community Forums
173: Community Forums
174: Member Screenshots
175: Community Forums
176: Community Forums
177: Community Forums
178: Community Forums
179: Member Screenshots
180: Photo Gallery
181: Photo Gallery
182: Community Forums
183: Community Forums
184: Photo Gallery
185: Community Forums
186: Community Forums
187: Community Forums
188: Home
189: Photo Gallery
190: CPGlang
191: Your Account
192: CPGlang
193: Photo Gallery
194: Home
195: Home
196: Community Forums
197: Community Forums
198: Community Forums
199: Community Forums
200: Community Forums
201: Community Forums
202: CPGlang
203: Community Forums
204: Member Screenshots
205: Community Forums
206: Home
207: Community Forums
208: Community Forums
209: Member Screenshots
210: Community Forums
211: Home
212: Home
213: Community Forums
214: Home
215: Home
216: Community Forums
217: Community Forums
218: Community Forums
219: Community Forums
220: Home
221: Your Account
222: Community Forums
223: Community Forums
224: Community Forums
225: Community Forums
226: Community Forums
227: Community Forums
228: Community Forums
229: Downloads
230: Community Forums
231: Statistics
232: Home
233: Community Forums
234: Community Forums
235: Community Forums
236: Home
237: Community Forums
238: Community Forums
239: Member Screenshots
240: Photo Gallery
241: Community Forums
242: Community Forums
243: Community Forums
244: Member Screenshots
245: Community Forums
246: Community Forums
247: Community Forums
248: Community Forums
249: Home
250: Photo Gallery
251: Member Screenshots
252: Community Forums
253: Community Forums
254: Community Forums
255: Community Forums
256: Photo Gallery
257: Member Screenshots
258: Downloads
259: Supporters
260: Community Forums
261: Home
262: Community Forums
263: Community Forums
264: Member Screenshots
265: Community Forums
266: Community Forums
267: Community Forums
268: Community Forums
269: News Archive
270: Member Screenshots
271: Photo Gallery
272: Photo Gallery
273: News Archive
274: Photo Gallery
275: Member Screenshots
276: Community Forums
277: Community Forums
278: Community Forums
279: Community Forums
280: Photo Gallery
281: Community Forums
282: Community Forums
283: CPGlang
284: Community Forums
285: Member Screenshots
286: Community Forums
287: Home
288: Member Screenshots
289: News
290: Photo Gallery
291: Community Forums
292: Member Screenshots
293: Community Forums
294: Community Forums
295: Community Forums
296: Downloads
297: CPGlang
298: Photo Gallery
299: Community Forums
300: Community Forums
301: Community Forums
302: Community Forums
303: Community Forums
304: Photo Gallery
305: Community Forums
306: Community Forums
307: Community Forums
308: Community Forums
309: Home
310: Home
311: Community Forums
312: Community Forums
313: Community Forums
314: Community Forums
315: Community Forums
316: Member Screenshots
317: Community Forums
318: Statistics
319: Member Screenshots
320: Community Forums
321: Photo Gallery
322: Photo Gallery
323: Community Forums
324: Community Forums
325: Community Forums
326: Home
327: Community Forums
328: Community Forums
329: Community Forums
330: Community Forums
331: Home
332: Home
333: Home
334: Community Forums
335: Community Forums
336: Community Forums
337: Community Forums
338: Community Forums
339: Community Forums
340: Community Forums
341: Home
342: Member Screenshots
343: Community Forums
344: Community Forums
345: Community Forums
346: Statistics
347: Community Forums
348: Member Screenshots
349: Photo Gallery
350: Community Forums
351: Community Forums
352: Community Forums
353: Community Forums
354: Community Forums
355: Community Forums
356: Community Forums
357: Photo Gallery
358: Member Screenshots
359: Community Forums
360: Community Forums
361: Community Forums
362: Member Screenshots
363: Home
364: Downloads
365: CPGlang
366: Community Forums
367: Community Forums
368: Community Forums
369: Member Screenshots
370: Community Forums
371: Community Forums
372: Community Forums
373: Member Screenshots
374: Community Forums
375: Community Forums
376: Photo Gallery
377: Home
378: Home
379: Home
380: Community Forums
381: Photo Gallery
382: Community Forums
383: Community Forums
384: Community Forums
385: Home
386: Home
387: Community Forums
388: Community Forums
389: Home
390: Your Account
391: Community Forums
392: Community Forums
393: Photo Gallery
394: Community Forums
395: Home
396: Home
397: Home
398: Downloads
399: Community Forums
400: Photo Gallery
401: Home
402: Community Forums
403: Community Forums
404: CPGlang
405: Home
406: Community Forums
407: Community Forums
408: Home
409: Photo Gallery
410: Home
411: Photo Gallery
412: Community Forums
413: CPGlang
414: Home
415: Home
416: Photo Gallery
417: Community Forums
418: Community Forums
419: Member Screenshots
420: Community Forums
421: Home
422: Home
423: Community Forums
424: Community Forums
425: Community Forums
426: Community Forums
427: Community Forums
428: Community Forums
429: Photo Gallery
430: Photo Gallery
431: Community Forums
432: Community Forums
433: CPGlang
434: Community Forums
435: Community Forums
436: Photo Gallery
437: Community Forums
438: Member Screenshots
439: Photo Gallery
440: Community Forums
441: Photo Gallery
442: Community Forums
443: Community Forums
444: Community Forums
445: Community Forums
446: Community Forums
447: Community Forums
448: Photo Gallery
449: Community Forums
450: Member Screenshots
451: Community Forums
452: Photo Gallery
453: Community Forums
454: Home
455: Home
456: Member Screenshots
457: Community Forums
458: Member Screenshots
459: Home
460: Community Forums
461: Community Forums
462: Community Forums
463: Community Forums
464: Photo Gallery
465: Community Forums
466: Home
467: Community Forums
468: Community Forums
469: Community Forums
470: Home
471: Community Forums
472: Community Forums
473: Community Forums
474: Community Forums
475: Home
476: Member Screenshots
477: Community Forums
478: Community Forums

Staff Online:

No staff members are online!
Preserved Tanks in the Netherlands
The AFV ASSOCIATION was formed in 1964 to support the thoughts and research of all those interested in Armored Fighting Vehicles and related topics, such as AFV drawings. The emphasis has always been on sharing information and communicating with other members of similar interests; e.g. German armor, Japanese AFVs, or whatever.
Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, ... 11, 12, 13  Next
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page     Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board

View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
TrevorLarkum
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Sep 16, 2007
Posts: 1596
Location: Northampton, England
PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 1:57 pm
Post subject: Re: Preserved Tanks in the Netherlands

Those vehicles were all in a hall near the museum entrance. Now on to those in the main Marshall Collection hall.


Unique ID 1703: Overloon Challenger




Unique ID 1704: Overloon Archer


_________________
Trevor

Dr Trevor Larkum
Preserved Tanks: PreservedTanks.com
Armour Archive: ArmourArchive.co.uk
EVs
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website
TrevorLarkum
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Sep 16, 2007
Posts: 1596
Location: Northampton, England
PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 9:35 pm
Post subject: Re: Preserved Tanks in the Netherlands

Unique ID 1705: Overloon Sexton





I did some research today and found out that the Challenger, Archer and Sexton came from a museum at Delfzijl so I have started to write it up:

Location ID 11370: Delfzijl Museum

If anyone has any additional information about this museum, and particularly photographs, I'd love to hear from you.

I also learnt about the fate of the crew of Jackal so I've added that information:

Unique ID 1702: Overloon Churchill "Jackal"

_________________
Trevor

Dr Trevor Larkum
Preserved Tanks: PreservedTanks.com
Armour Archive: ArmourArchive.co.uk
EVs
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website
Pzkpfw-e
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jul 21, 2010
Posts: 1202

PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 8:15 am
Post subject: Re: Preserved Tanks in the Netherlands

Delfzijl museum had a Spitfire on its roof.
rnlafmodelingsite.come...e-Mk-9-H-8

This thread appears to show several items of armour (& other bits, there must be dozens of Pak43 "Barn Doors" on display in Europe!) that are displayed in Holland

www.buzzybeeforum.nl/v...w=previous
Back to top
View user's profile
Michel_Krauss
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Oct 30, 2009
Posts: 953
Location: Zuid-Holland, The Netherlands
PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 9:51 am
Post subject: Re: Preserved Tanks in the Netherlands

I will try to get you some information about this museum, however because it's some time ago (no digital camera's or internet at the time) it could be difficult


Concerning the buzzybee forum, most topics are only open to registrated members (like me Mr. Green ) .


Michel

_________________
I'm Not Crazy, I'm Just Not You
Back to top
View user's profile
TrevorLarkum
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Sep 16, 2007
Posts: 1596
Location: Northampton, England
PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 11:29 am
Post subject: Re: Preserved Tanks in the Netherlands

On to the vehicles in the Marshall Collection:


Unique ID 1706: Overloon G13



_________________
Trevor

Dr Trevor Larkum
Preserved Tanks: PreservedTanks.com
Armour Archive: ArmourArchive.co.uk
EVs
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website
TrevorLarkum
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Sep 16, 2007
Posts: 1596
Location: Northampton, England
PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 12:13 pm
Post subject: Re: Preserved Tanks in the Netherlands

- Pzkpfw-e
Delfzijl museum had a Spitfire on its roof.
rnlafmodelingsite.come...e-Mk-9-H-8


I'm not sure that that is the same museum - however, you encouraged me to delve a bit further and I have found a photograph that definitely is the right place as it has a Challenger tank in the background. I have added this photograph to the website and sent a link to the webmaster to check it's ok to use it, and to ask for further information on the museum (including whether it's the same one with the Spitfire).


- Michel_Krauss
I will try to get you some information about this museum, however because it's some time ago (no digital camera's or internet at the time) it could be difficult


Understood - anything you can find would appreciated, but I have enough now to complete the write-up, and I'll get back to doing the Marshall vehicles.


Location: 11370: Oorlogsmuseum Delfzijl




I have also added the photo to the Challenger's profile page.


[Latest Statistics for PTIN:
Locations: 6 -> 7
Tanks: 11 -> 15
Location Photos: 0 -> 1
Tank Photos: 145 -> 217]

_________________
Trevor

Dr Trevor Larkum
Preserved Tanks: PreservedTanks.com
Armour Archive: ArmourArchive.co.uk
EVs
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website
TrevorLarkum
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Sep 16, 2007
Posts: 1596
Location: Northampton, England
PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 4:24 pm
Post subject: Re: Preserved Tanks in the Netherlands

German vehicles:


Unique ID 1707: Overloon Leopard




Unique ID 1708: Overloon Gepard


_________________
Trevor

Dr Trevor Larkum
Preserved Tanks: PreservedTanks.com
Armour Archive: ArmourArchive.co.uk
EVs
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website
Michel_Krauss
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Oct 30, 2009
Posts: 953
Location: Zuid-Holland, The Netherlands
PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 5:39 pm
Post subject: Re: Preserved Tanks in the Netherlands

Did some research about hte musuem at Delfzijl

- TrevorLarkum
- Pzkpfw-e
Delfzijl museum had a Spitfire on its roof.
rnlafmodelingsite.come...e-Mk-9-H-8


I'm not sure that that is the same museum - however, you encouraged me to delve a bit further and I have found a photograph that definitely is the right place as it has a Challenger tank in the background. I have added this photograph to the website and sent a link to the webmaster to check it's ok to use it, and to ask for further information on the museum (including whether it's the same one with the Spitfire).


It is the same museum.
Original the Spitfire was placed at ground level in front of the museum, like in the picture.
However it was used by kids to play on it and in time parts dis-appeared, so they decided to move the Spitfire to the roof of the building to keep it safe.


- TrevorLarkum
- Michel_Krauss
I will try to get you some information about this museum, however because it's some time ago (no digital camera's or internet at the time) it could be difficult


Understood - anything you can find would appreciated, but I have enough now to complete the write-up, and I'll get back to doing the Marshall vehicles.


I could not find any more information about the museum.
Tried the old newspaper archive, moving tanks would be something to write about, however nothing to be found.

The only info found that at the same location is a new museum about sealife that uses several WW2 German bunkers that where part of the Atlantic wall in that region.

Apparently the climate conditions inside bunkers are very good for such a museum Confused

Michel

_________________
I'm Not Crazy, I'm Just Not You
Back to top
View user's profile
Michel_Krauss
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Oct 30, 2009
Posts: 953
Location: Zuid-Holland, The Netherlands
PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 5:52 pm
Post subject: Re: Preserved Tanks in the Netherlands

- TrevorLarkum


There are two red marked erea's at the glacis plate, both of them holding stamped markings.
The one at the left hand side can't be identified, however the one at the right hand side has the stamped marking "NL12340"
Picture of it available

Michel

Edit: I also have some picture's of the Saurer diesel engine of the G13 Jagdpanzer

_________________
I'm Not Crazy, I'm Just Not You
Back to top
View user's profile
L.Delsing
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Feb 10, 2006
Posts: 960

PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 7:22 pm
Post subject: Re: Preserved Tanks in the Netherlands

Yep, that is the ''fahrgestellnummer''/serial number of the hull. the markings (12E) are from A-eskadron, 2e peloton, E-tank of A-coy, 2nd platoon, radiocallsign ''E'' which is the tank of the platoon sergeant.

Original the Leopard 1s were Leopard 1A1s baulos 4. The V (verbeterd - Improved) was a Dutch modification with indeed the extra armour what the A1A1 also had but the ''V'' had some specific Dutch ''improvements''. The V is also called ''Verprutst'' (Messed up) by some old Leopard 1 commanders instead of ''Verbeterd'' (improved) Mr. Green

The Leopard 1 preserved at Oirschot (KU-93-35) is since a long time gone. First to Soesterberg to make it ready for use as hard target (draining all the oil etc) and then to Vlieland as range target. When the army part on the range closed the remains of KU-93-35 were sold for scrap metal. This was an original tank from 11 Tkbat.

It was replaced by a Leopard 1V from a mobilization complex, serial 12367, r/n KU-93-65. At the moment it is still in front of the main building of 11th tank batallion but it is unknown if it remains here when 11th tkbat disband.

Regards,
Lesley
Back to top
View user's profile
Pzkpfw-e
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jul 21, 2010
Posts: 1202

PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 10:21 pm
Post subject: Re: Preserved Tanks in the Netherlands

- TrevorLarkum
- Pzkpfw-e
Delfzijl museum had a Spitfire on its roof.
rnlafmodelingsite.come...e-Mk-9-H-8


I'm not sure that that is the same museum - however, you encouraged me to delve a bit further and I have found a photograph that definitely is the right place as it has a Challenger tank in the background. I have added this photograph to the website and sent a link to the webmaster to check it's ok to use it, and to ask for further information on the museum (including whether it's the same one with the Spitfire).

Yep, same Spitfire sitting behind the Challenger. Clipped-wings, LF MkIX.
Back to top
View user's profile
TrevorLarkum
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Sep 16, 2007
Posts: 1596
Location: Northampton, England
PostPosted: Fri Jun 03, 2011 10:51 am
Post subject: Re: Preserved Tanks in the Netherlands

A brace of Shermans:


UID 1711: Overloon M4A4 on transporter





UID 1709: Overloon M4A2 (105) HVSS "Indefatigable Gerard"

[img]http://preservedtanks.com/Albums/American/1371-M4A2%20%28105%29%20HVSS%20Sherman/IMG-5837_M4A2-HVSS_Overloon_AArchive_c.jpg[/img]



UID 1710: Overloon M4A3 (105) HVSS "Harssens"/"Marbrig"

[img]http://preservedtanks.com/Albums/American/1372-M4A3%20%28105%29%20HVSS%20Sherman/IMG-5804_M4A3-HVSS_Overloon_AArchive_c.jpg[/img]

_________________
Trevor

Dr Trevor Larkum
Preserved Tanks: PreservedTanks.com
Armour Archive: ArmourArchive.co.uk
EVs
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website
TrevorLarkum
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Sep 16, 2007
Posts: 1596
Location: Northampton, England
PostPosted: Fri Jun 03, 2011 11:23 am
Post subject: Re: Preserved Tanks in the Netherlands

- Michel_Krauss
Did some research about hte musuem at Delfzijl

It is the same museum.
Original the Spitfire was placed at ground level in front of the museum, like in the picture.
However it was used by kids to play on it and in time parts dis-appeared, so they decided to move the Spitfire to the roof of the building to keep it safe.

I could not find any more information about the museum.
Tried the old newspaper archive, moving tanks would be something to write about, however nothing to be found.

The only info found that at the same location is a new museum about sealife that uses several WW2 German bunkers that where part of the Atlantic wall in that region.

Apparently the climate conditions inside bunkers are very good for such a museum :?




- Pzkpfw-e
Yep, same Spitfire sitting behind the Challenger. Clipped-wings, LF MkIX.



Thanks guys - I've updated the entry (text, links, location and photo caption), let me know if there's anything else to add:

Location 11370: Oorlogsmuseum Delfzijl

_________________
Trevor

Dr Trevor Larkum
Preserved Tanks: PreservedTanks.com
Armour Archive: ArmourArchive.co.uk
EVs
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website
Pzkpfw-e
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jul 21, 2010
Posts: 1202

PostPosted: Fri Jun 03, 2011 12:16 pm
Post subject: Re: Preserved Tanks in the Netherlands

Older shot of G13
www.flickr.com/photos/...3712350011
Back to top
View user's profile
Pzkpfw-e
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jul 21, 2010
Posts: 1202

PostPosted: Fri Jun 03, 2011 12:26 pm
Post subject: Re: Preserved Tanks in the Netherlands

Overloon's Panther, as "found".
www.panther1944.de/com...=6&p=37541
The last commentator may be worth contacting, as he has photos from 1964.
Back to top
View user's profile
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page    Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board
Page 2 of 13
All times are GMT - 6 Hours
Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, ... 11, 12, 13  Next



Jump to:  


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You cannot download files in this forum