±Recent Visitors

Recent Visitors to Com-Central!

±User Info-big


Welcome Anonymous

Nickname
Password

Membership:
Latest: cgsimpson
New Today: 0
New Yesterday: 0
Overall: 6645

People Online:
Members: 0
Visitors: 457
Total: 457
Who Is Where:
 Visitors:
01: Home
02: CPGlang
03: Community Forums
04: Photo Gallery
05: CPGlang
06: Home
07: CPGlang
08: Home
09: CPGlang
10: CPGlang
11: Home
12: Community Forums
13: CPGlang
14: Home
15: CPGlang
16: Photo Gallery
17: Community Forums
18: CPGlang
19: Community Forums
20: CPGlang
21: Home
22: Photo Gallery
23: Home
24: Home
25: Photo Gallery
26: Downloads
27: CPGlang
28: CPGlang
29: Photo Gallery
30: Home
31: Member Screenshots
32: CPGlang
33: CPGlang
34: Home
35: Home
36: Community Forums
37: CPGlang
38: Photo Gallery
39: CPGlang
40: Home
41: Community Forums
42: Photo Gallery
43: Community Forums
44: Home
45: Home
46: Community Forums
47: Home
48: Home
49: Community Forums
50: Home
51: Community Forums
52: Home
53: Home
54: Home
55: CPGlang
56: Home
57: Home
58: Home
59: Home
60: Home
61: Your Account
62: Home
63: Home
64: CPGlang
65: Community Forums
66: CPGlang
67: Community Forums
68: Your Account
69: Photo Gallery
70: Community Forums
71: Home
72: Home
73: Community Forums
74: Home
75: Home
76: Home
77: CPGlang
78: Home
79: News
80: Home
81: Downloads
82: Your Account
83: CPGlang
84: Home
85: Home
86: CPGlang
87: Home
88: Photo Gallery
89: Downloads
90: Community Forums
91: Community Forums
92: Photo Gallery
93: Home
94: Home
95: Home
96: Photo Gallery
97: CPGlang
98: Home
99: Member Screenshots
100: Home
101: Home
102: Home
103: Member Screenshots
104: CPGlang
105: CPGlang
106: Downloads
107: Photo Gallery
108: Community Forums
109: Home
110: Downloads
111: CPGlang
112: Home
113: Home
114: Home
115: Home
116: Home
117: Photo Gallery
118: CPGlang
119: Home
120: Home
121: Home
122: Home
123: Downloads
124: CPGlang
125: CPGlang
126: Home
127: Photo Gallery
128: Community Forums
129: Home
130: Home
131: Home
132: Community Forums
133: Home
134: Home
135: CPGlang
136: Community Forums
137: Home
138: Home
139: Downloads
140: Photo Gallery
141: Home
142: Member Screenshots
143: Home
144: Member Screenshots
145: CPGlang
146: CPGlang
147: CPGlang
148: Community Forums
149: Community Forums
150: Community Forums
151: Home
152: Community Forums
153: CPGlang
154: Home
155: Member Screenshots
156: Home
157: Home
158: CPGlang
159: News
160: Home
161: CPGlang
162: Community Forums
163: Community Forums
164: Photo Gallery
165: Home
166: Photo Gallery
167: Photo Gallery
168: Home
169: Community Forums
170: Home
171: Home
172: Community Forums
173: Home
174: Home
175: Community Forums
176: Home
177: Community Forums
178: Community Forums
179: CPGlang
180: Community Forums
181: Community Forums
182: CPGlang
183: Photo Gallery
184: Photo Gallery
185: CPGlang
186: Community Forums
187: CPGlang
188: Home
189: CPGlang
190: CPGlang
191: Home
192: Photo Gallery
193: Community Forums
194: Community Forums
195: Photo Gallery
196: CPGlang
197: Home
198: Home
199: Home
200: CPGlang
201: CPGlang
202: CPGlang
203: CPGlang
204: CPGlang
205: CPGlang
206: Home
207: CPGlang
208: Community Forums
209: CPGlang
210: CPGlang
211: CPGlang
212: Home
213: Community Forums
214: Home
215: Home
216: Member Screenshots
217: Photo Gallery
218: Home
219: Community Forums
220: Downloads
221: CPGlang
222: CPGlang
223: Photo Gallery
224: CPGlang
225: Community Forums
226: Photo Gallery
227: Home
228: Community Forums
229: Downloads
230: CPGlang
231: Home
232: Photo Gallery
233: Downloads
234: CPGlang
235: Community Forums
236: Home
237: CPGlang
238: Photo Gallery
239: Home
240: Photo Gallery
241: Home
242: Photo Gallery
243: Home
244: Community Forums
245: Community Forums
246: CPGlang
247: CPGlang
248: Community Forums
249: Photo Gallery
250: Photo Gallery
251: Home
252: CPGlang
253: Community Forums
254: Community Forums
255: CPGlang
256: Community Forums
257: CPGlang
258: Home
259: Downloads
260: CPGlang
261: Community Forums
262: CPGlang
263: Home
264: Home
265: Photo Gallery
266: Home
267: Home
268: Community Forums
269: CPGlang
270: Home
271: Home
272: Community Forums
273: Photo Gallery
274: CPGlang
275: Home
276: Home
277: CPGlang
278: Photo Gallery
279: CPGlang
280: CPGlang
281: Community Forums
282: CPGlang
283: Home
284: CPGlang
285: CPGlang
286: Home
287: Community Forums
288: Home
289: Member Screenshots
290: CPGlang
291: CPGlang
292: Photo Gallery
293: Community Forums
294: Home
295: Home
296: CPGlang
297: Home
298: Community Forums
299: Community Forums
300: Photo Gallery
301: Photo Gallery
302: CPGlang
303: Photo Gallery
304: CPGlang
305: Home
306: Home
307: Community Forums
308: Home
309: CPGlang
310: Community Forums
311: Photo Gallery
312: CPGlang
313: Photo Gallery
314: Photo Gallery
315: CPGlang
316: Home
317: Community Forums
318: Photo Gallery
319: Home
320: Photo Gallery
321: Downloads
322: Home
323: Photo Gallery
324: Community Forums
325: Home
326: Community Forums
327: Photo Gallery
328: CPGlang
329: Community Forums
330: Community Forums
331: Home
332: Home
333: CPGlang
334: Home
335: Community Forums
336: Community Forums
337: Home
338: Member Screenshots
339: Home
340: CPGlang
341: Downloads
342: Home
343: Community Forums
344: Home
345: Home
346: CPGlang
347: Community Forums
348: Photo Gallery
349: Home
350: Photo Gallery
351: Photo Gallery
352: Home
353: Community Forums
354: Home
355: Community Forums
356: Home
357: Community Forums
358: Home
359: Community Forums
360: Photo Gallery
361: Home
362: Home
363: Photo Gallery
364: Community Forums
365: CPGlang
366: CPGlang
367: Photo Gallery
368: Community Forums
369: CPGlang
370: CPGlang
371: Home
372: CPGlang
373: Home
374: Member Screenshots
375: Home
376: Home
377: Home
378: Community Forums
379: Home
380: CPGlang
381: Community Forums
382: Home
383: Home
384: Home
385: Community Forums
386: Home
387: Community Forums
388: CPGlang
389: CPGlang
390: Photo Gallery
391: Home
392: Home
393: CPGlang
394: Member Screenshots
395: Community Forums
396: Home
397: Photo Gallery
398: Home
399: Home
400: CPGlang
401: Home
402: Home
403: Photo Gallery
404: Your Account
405: Home
406: Member Screenshots
407: Home
408: Community Forums
409: Community Forums
410: Home
411: Member Screenshots
412: Home
413: Community Forums
414: Home
415: Community Forums
416: Home
417: Home
418: Home
419: Home
420: Home
421: Community Forums
422: CPGlang
423: Community Forums
424: CPGlang
425: Home
426: Community Forums
427: Community Forums
428: Home
429: Community Forums
430: Home
431: Community Forums
432: Community Forums
433: CPGlang
434: CPGlang
435: CPGlang
436: Photo Gallery
437: Downloads
438: Downloads
439: CPGlang
440: CPGlang
441: CPGlang
442: Downloads
443: CPGlang
444: CPGlang
445: Community Forums
446: Home
447: Statistics
448: Community Forums
449: Home
450: Home
451: Home
452: Your Account
453: Community Forums
454: Community Forums
455: News
456: CPGlang
457: Home

Staff Online:

No staff members are online!
One of a kinds/only survivors, etc... - Help needed
The AFV ASSOCIATION was formed in 1964 to support the thoughts and research of all those interested in Armored Fighting Vehicles and related topics, such as AFV drawings. The emphasis has always been on sharing information and communicating with other members of similar interests; e.g. German armor, Japanese AFVs, or whatever.
Go to page 1, 2, 3  Next
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page     Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board

View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
Neil_Baumgardner
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 3942
Location: Arlington, VA
PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 4:16 pm
Post subject: One of a kinds/only survivors, etc... - Help needed

Hello all, I was reviewing the AFV Register for all the "one of a kinds" (or even "one of a few") and "only survivors" in the US. So I thought I'd throw this out for discussion & insights, before I check my sources...

M2 Medium (Patton & APG): How many M2 mediums were built? Just these two?
M2 Light (Patton, APG, Hattiesburg MS, & Quantic): Just these four survivors?
M4 CWS-POA-H5 Sherman Flamethower (29 Palms, Jacksonville NC & Leonard Wood): Just three survivors?
M7 Medium (APG): How many were built - just this one?
M1918 Ford (Patton & APG): How many were built?
M1920 GMC (APG): Only one built?
M1922 Medium A (APG): Only one built?
M1922E Mk X GMC (APG): Only one built?
T54E1 Medium Tank (APG): Only one built?
T2 Medium Tank (APG): Only one built?
T4 Medium Tank (APG): Only one built?
T23 Medium Tank (APG & TACOM): Just three survivors right?
T26E4 Super Pershing (Wheaton): Only surviving long-barrel Pershing right?
T49 Walker Bulldog (AP Hill): Only one built?
T88 (APG): Built on M18 Hellcat chassis, only pilot built?
T93 SPG (APG): How many were built?
T162 GMC (Sill): Only one built?
GM XM1 (Littlefield's): How many were built, is this the only one?
XM723 (Benning): Only one built?
XM800T & W: How many were built of each?
XM808 (TACOM): Only one built?
Close Combat Vehicle - Light (Littlefield's): Only one built?
MTTB FMC Test Bed (Littlefield's): Only one built

Neil
Back to top
View user's profile
bsmart
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 23, 2006
Posts: 2523
Location: Central Maryland
PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 4:47 pm
Post subject: Re: One of a kinds/only survivors, etc... - Help needed

Neil - You've been on enough of my tours to realize you missed my favorite The M6 Heavy! I'm pretty sure the one at Aberdeen is the only one left

And M2 light at Aberdeen? It's not ringing any bells with me or is that the Mae West?
I also don't see the Cunningham on the list.
Is the Christie the T4 Medium

And if we are doing 'one of a kind' Sherman varients - What about the Calliope M4A1 is Aberdeen's the only Calliope left? How many DD Shermans are around

And then there are the T-95s There is one in Weirton, where else

What about the Vigilante (I don't know the T or XM number offhand) the 37mm Gatling SP at Aberdeen

There is also the Mk VIII International that is at Aberdeen (I'm told, I haven't seen it in years :-))

_________________
Bob Smart ([email protected])
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail
Neil_Baumgardner
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 3942
Location: Arlington, VA
PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 4:57 pm
Post subject: Re: One of a kinds/only survivors, etc... - Help needed

- bsmart
Neil - You've been on enough of my tours to realize you missed my favorite The M6 Heavy! I'm pretty sure the one at Aberdeen is the only one left


Yep, already know that one...


And M2 light at Aberdeen? It's not ringing any bells with me or is that the Mae West?


Yeah, the rusty hull behind the refurb facility. I should probably say 3.5 survivors...


I also don't see the Cunningham on the list.


T1E2 light, already got it - only surviving T1 light.


Is the Christie the T4 Medium


Nope, Christie is a T3. The T4 was the bigger tank (behind the fence now) that Rock Island built with a Christie suspension.


And if we are doing 'one of a kind' Sherman varients - What about the Calliope M4A1 is Aberdeen's the only Calliope left? How many DD Shermans are around


Calliope, hmm...

Oh yeah... DDs... That one's fun...

Sounds like questions for G104...


And then there are the T-95s There is one in Weirton, where else


Several actually - Anniston, Knox, McCoy, Wierton - but probably still worth a mention...


What about the Vigilante (I don't know the T or XM number offhand) the 37mm Gatling SP at Aberdeen


Oh yeah - the T249. Good catch, that one somehow didnt make it on the register!


There is also the Mk VIII International that is at Aberdeen (I'm told, I haven't seen it in years :-))


Yep, one of three in the world - along with Meade & Bovington. I have wondered what happened to all the ones that were sent to Canada...

Neil
Back to top
View user's profile
armyjunk2
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Sep 22, 2006
Posts: 1416

PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 6:03 pm
Post subject: Re: One of a kinds/only survivors, etc... - Help needed

M1918 6t, number accepted up to Jan 31 1919....291 according to Crowell's America's Munitions
Hope that helps
Back to top
View user's profile
Dontos
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 3436
Location: Vine Grove, KY
PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 11:19 pm
Post subject: Re: One of a kinds/only survivors, etc... - Help needed

Besides the Obvious, T28 Super Heavy, here are a few possible candidates:















Don

_________________
"Gonna hold my breath until Armor returns home..."
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Visit poster's website AIM Address Yahoo Messenger Photo Gallery
Dontos
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 3436
Location: Vine Grove, KY
PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 11:20 pm
Post subject: Re: One of a kinds/only survivors, etc... - Help needed

Had to throw this in..... Mr. Green



Don

_________________
"Gonna hold my breath until Armor returns home..."
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Visit poster's website AIM Address Yahoo Messenger Photo Gallery
bsmart
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 23, 2006
Posts: 2523
Location: Central Maryland
PostPosted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 1:42 am
Post subject: Re: One of a kinds/only survivors, etc... - Help needed

- Dontos
Besides the Obvious, T28 Super Heavy, here are a few possible candidates:

(Pictures removed to shorten message)

Don


I thought Neil was only looking for American 'one of a kinds' right now. If we start including captured stuff Aberdeens list gets a lot longer and we'll start with Leopold and move down from there Mr. Green And that doesn't include things that came from our allies.

But I thought of some more for you Neil

T-92 Light
RDF tank (don't know what it's designator is)
XM-8

What about the M-22 Locust? How many of them are left?

What was that SPG at the Hampton VA hospital? Was it an XM-108 or something else? Which brings up the M-108 How many of them are left? I think I remember the chassis being converted to something else. How many were saved? Aberdeen has one in storage.

What about the M-12 SPG at Aberdeen? were any others saved? Or it's replacement the M-40?

I'm sure I'll come up with more later

_________________
Bob Smart ([email protected])
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail
Dontos
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 3436
Location: Vine Grove, KY
PostPosted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 2:06 am
Post subject: Re: One of a kinds/only survivors, etc... - Help needed

- bsmart
- Dontos
Besides the Obvious, T28 Super Heavy, here are a few possible candidates:

(Pictures removed to shorten message)

Don


I thought Neil was only looking for American 'one of a kinds' right now. If we start including captured stuff Aberdeens list gets a lot longer and we'll start with Leopold and move down from there Mr. Green And that doesn't include things that came from our allies.

But I thought of some more for you Neil

T-92 Light
RDF tank (don't know what it's designator is)
XM-8

What about the M-22 Locust? How many of them are left?

What was that SPG at the Hampton VA hospital? Was it an XM-108 or something else? Which brings up the M-108 How many of them are left? I think I remember the chassis being converted to something else. How many were saved? Aberdeen has one in storage.

What about the M-12 SPG at Aberdeen? were any others saved? Or it's replacement the M-40?

I'm sure I'll come up with more later


Okay Bob....you got me. Most were US...sorta Rolling Eyes

The GM XM1 in Portola Valley is the sole survivor that I know of. Not really sure how many of each were produced. I would guess around 3-5 GM's (might be wrong,....anyone??)

How about that 'Twister' thing?....

Along with the XM808T & W, XM803, M-1 TTB, and not to be out done, we do have that 'MICV' thing also....( A little worse for wear, but still present)

Now I gotta locate some photos...
Don
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Visit poster's website AIM Address Yahoo Messenger Photo Gallery
Neil_Baumgardner
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 3942
Location: Arlington, VA
PostPosted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 3:21 am
Post subject: Re: One of a kinds/only survivors, etc... - Help needed

- Dontos
Besides the Obvious, T28 Super Heavy, here are a few possible candidates:




Sd.Kfz. 234-4, only one in the world?





According to Hunnicutt, four of each type (W & T) were built. The following are known, two of the Ts appear to be missing.

XM800T (Danbury, Knox)
XM800W (Anniston, APG, Eglin AFB, Knox)





Really all that rare?





Yep...





Only Sd.Kfz. 223?





Challenger VC47 - I'll have to look up the details on that one again.





Only one built, got it...

Neil
Back to top
View user's profile
Neil_Baumgardner
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 3942
Location: Arlington, VA
PostPosted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 3:24 am
Post subject: Re: One of a kinds/only survivors, etc... - Help needed

- Dontos
Had to throw this in..... Mr. Green





You decided what to do with those yet Don? Wink

Neil
Back to top
View user's profile
Dontos
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 3436
Location: Vine Grove, KY
PostPosted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 3:32 am
Post subject: Re: One of a kinds/only survivors, etc... - Help needed

- Neil_Baumgardner
- Dontos
Had to throw this in..... Mr. Green





You decided what to do with those yet Don? Wink

Neil


Yeah, I have a plan, but it got put on a back burner for awhile. They are safely stored and await my future plans. (Stay tuned)

BTW: We Do have the M1919.... Perhaps another candidate?

Don
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Visit poster's website AIM Address Yahoo Messenger Photo Gallery
Neil_Baumgardner
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 3942
Location: Arlington, VA
PostPosted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 3:32 am
Post subject: Re: One of a kinds/only survivors, etc... - Help needed

- bsmart
- Dontos
Besides the Obvious, T28 Super Heavy, here are a few possible candidates:

(Pictures removed to shorten message)

Don


I thought Neil was only looking for American 'one of a kinds' right now.



Nope, any in the US.


If we start including captured stuff Aberdeens list gets a lot longer and we'll start with Leopold and move down from there Mr. Green And that doesn't include things that came from our allies.


Yep...


T-92 Light


According to the Museum Guide CD, its SN 3 of two built Wink


RDF tank (don't know what it's designator is)


I'll need to check how many were built...


XM-8


I'll need to check that one too, but I think there's a bunch of them actually (just not on display).


What about the M-22 Locust? How many of them are left?


Good one...


What was that SPG at the Hampton VA hospital? Was it an XM-108 or something else? Which brings up the M-108 How many of them are left? I think I remember the chassis being converted to something else. How many were saved? Aberdeen has one in storage.


Another good one...


What about the M-12 SPG at Aberdeen? were any others saved? Or it's replacement the M-40?


Seven surviving M40s by my count... I think my totally arbitrary bar is 5...

M12 is definately a good one though... That cant be the only survivor right? Any overseas?

Neil
Back to top
View user's profile
Neil_Baumgardner
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 3942
Location: Arlington, VA
PostPosted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 3:37 am
Post subject: Re: One of a kinds/only survivors, etc... - Help needed

- Dontos


BTW: We Do have the M1919.... Perhaps another candidate?

Don


You mean M1918? The Ford 3-tonner? One of two survivors (out of 15 built according to Hunnicutt).

Neil
Back to top
View user's profile
Neil_Baumgardner
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 3942
Location: Arlington, VA
PostPosted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 3:49 am
Post subject: Re: One of a kinds/only survivors, etc... - Help needed

- bsmart


What about the M-22 Locust? How many of them are left?



By my count there's about 10 out there. It helps that some were demilled and sold as agricultural tractors (in the US) postwar. At least one in a reenactor unit was "restored" (fake repro turret) that from a former tractor.

Anyway, by my again arbitrary standard, thats a bit too many to be quite rare...

Similarly, eight XM247 Sergeant Yorks is a bit too many for a note on each one...

Neil
Back to top
View user's profile
Dontos
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 3436
Location: Vine Grove, KY
PostPosted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 4:12 am
Post subject: Re: One of a kinds/only survivors, etc... - Help needed

- Neil_Baumgardner
- Dontos


BTW: We Do have the M1919.... Perhaps another candidate?

Don


You mean M1918? The Ford 3-tonner? One of two survivors (out of 15 built according to Hunnicutt).

Neil


This...


Don

_________________
"Gonna hold my breath until Armor returns home..."
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Visit poster's website AIM Address Yahoo Messenger Photo Gallery
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page    Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board
Page 1 of 3
All times are GMT - 6 Hours
Go to page 1, 2, 3  Next



Jump to:  


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You cannot download files in this forum