±Recent Visitors

Recent Visitors to Com-Central!

±User Info-big


Welcome Anonymous

Nickname
Password

Membership:
Latest: cgsimpson
New Today: 0
New Yesterday: 0
Overall: 6645

People Online:
Members: 0
Visitors: 699
Total: 699
Who Is Where:
 Visitors:
01: Downloads
02: Community Forums
03: Community Forums
04: Home
05: Community Forums
06: Community Forums
07: Community Forums
08: Community Forums
09: Community Forums
10: Community Forums
11: Community Forums
12: Community Forums
13: Community Forums
14: Photo Gallery
15: Community Forums
16: Community Forums
17: Your Account
18: Community Forums
19: Community Forums
20: Downloads
21: Community Forums
22: Community Forums
23: Home
24: Community Forums
25: Community Forums
26: Community Forums
27: Community Forums
28: Community Forums
29: CPGlang
30: Community Forums
31: Community Forums
32: Photo Gallery
33: Home
34: Community Forums
35: Home
36: Community Forums
37: Community Forums
38: Community Forums
39: Community Forums
40: Community Forums
41: Community Forums
42: Community Forums
43: Community Forums
44: Home
45: Community Forums
46: Community Forums
47: Community Forums
48: Home
49: Community Forums
50: Community Forums
51: Community Forums
52: Community Forums
53: Community Forums
54: CPGlang
55: Member Screenshots
56: Downloads
57: Home
58: Photo Gallery
59: Home
60: Community Forums
61: Home
62: Home
63: Photo Gallery
64: Community Forums
65: Community Forums
66: Community Forums
67: Community Forums
68: Community Forums
69: Photo Gallery
70: Photo Gallery
71: Community Forums
72: Community Forums
73: Member Screenshots
74: Community Forums
75: Downloads
76: Community Forums
77: Community Forums
78: Member Screenshots
79: Community Forums
80: Community Forums
81: Community Forums
82: Community Forums
83: Community Forums
84: Photo Gallery
85: Photo Gallery
86: Photo Gallery
87: Community Forums
88: Community Forums
89: Downloads
90: Community Forums
91: News Archive
92: Home
93: Photo Gallery
94: Photo Gallery
95: Home
96: Community Forums
97: Photo Gallery
98: Photo Gallery
99: Community Forums
100: Your Account
101: Community Forums
102: Community Forums
103: Community Forums
104: Downloads
105: Community Forums
106: Community Forums
107: Your Account
108: Community Forums
109: Photo Gallery
110: Community Forums
111: Member Screenshots
112: Community Forums
113: Community Forums
114: Community Forums
115: Photo Gallery
116: Home
117: Photo Gallery
118: Community Forums
119: Contact
120: Community Forums
121: Photo Gallery
122: Community Forums
123: Community Forums
124: Community Forums
125: Community Forums
126: Your Account
127: Home
128: Community Forums
129: Community Forums
130: Community Forums
131: Photo Gallery
132: Community Forums
133: Community Forums
134: Community Forums
135: Community Forums
136: Home
137: Member Screenshots
138: Community Forums
139: Statistics
140: Community Forums
141: Community Forums
142: Community Forums
143: Home
144: Community Forums
145: CPGlang
146: Community Forums
147: Community Forums
148: Member Screenshots
149: Community Forums
150: Community Forums
151: Home
152: Community Forums
153: Community Forums
154: Community Forums
155: Member Screenshots
156: Community Forums
157: Community Forums
158: Community Forums
159: Downloads
160: Community Forums
161: Community Forums
162: Community Forums
163: Community Forums
164: Community Forums
165: Your Account
166: Community Forums
167: Photo Gallery
168: Home
169: Home
170: Member Screenshots
171: Community Forums
172: Photo Gallery
173: Member Screenshots
174: Community Forums
175: Photo Gallery
176: Community Forums
177: Downloads
178: Community Forums
179: CPGlang
180: Community Forums
181: Home
182: Community Forums
183: Home
184: Community Forums
185: Home
186: Community Forums
187: Home
188: Photo Gallery
189: Home
190: Community Forums
191: Community Forums
192: Your Account
193: Member Screenshots
194: Community Forums
195: Photo Gallery
196: Community Forums
197: Community Forums
198: Community Forums
199: Community Forums
200: Community Forums
201: Community Forums
202: Community Forums
203: CPGlang
204: Community Forums
205: Downloads
206: CPGlang
207: Downloads
208: CPGlang
209: Community Forums
210: Community Forums
211: Community Forums
212: Photo Gallery
213: Community Forums
214: Community Forums
215: Community Forums
216: Downloads
217: Photo Gallery
218: Home
219: Photo Gallery
220: Your Account
221: Home
222: Photo Gallery
223: Home
224: Downloads
225: Community Forums
226: Community Forums
227: Community Forums
228: Home
229: Home
230: Community Forums
231: CPGlang
232: Community Forums
233: Community Forums
234: Community Forums
235: Community Forums
236: Community Forums
237: Community Forums
238: Home
239: Member Screenshots
240: Community Forums
241: Community Forums
242: Community Forums
243: Home
244: Community Forums
245: Community Forums
246: Community Forums
247: Community Forums
248: Community Forums
249: Community Forums
250: Community Forums
251: Community Forums
252: CPGlang
253: Community Forums
254: Photo Gallery
255: Community Forums
256: Community Forums
257: Community Forums
258: Community Forums
259: News Archive
260: Community Forums
261: Photo Gallery
262: Photo Gallery
263: Home
264: Community Forums
265: News
266: Community Forums
267: Photo Gallery
268: Community Forums
269: Photo Gallery
270: Community Forums
271: Member Screenshots
272: Photo Gallery
273: Community Forums
274: Community Forums
275: Community Forums
276: Community Forums
277: Community Forums
278: Home
279: Photo Gallery
280: Community Forums
281: Community Forums
282: Community Forums
283: Community Forums
284: Community Forums
285: Community Forums
286: Community Forums
287: Photo Gallery
288: Community Forums
289: Photo Gallery
290: Your Account
291: Home
292: Community Forums
293: Community Forums
294: Community Forums
295: Community Forums
296: Photo Gallery
297: Community Forums
298: Community Forums
299: Home
300: Community Forums
301: Community Forums
302: Community Forums
303: Community Forums
304: Home
305: Community Forums
306: Community Forums
307: Downloads
308: Community Forums
309: Community Forums
310: Community Forums
311: Home
312: CPGlang
313: Community Forums
314: Community Forums
315: Home
316: Community Forums
317: Community Forums
318: Photo Gallery
319: Community Forums
320: Home
321: Home
322: Photo Gallery
323: Community Forums
324: Community Forums
325: Community Forums
326: Community Forums
327: Home
328: Home
329: Photo Gallery
330: Your Account
331: Community Forums
332: Your Account
333: Downloads
334: Community Forums
335: Photo Gallery
336: Community Forums
337: Community Forums
338: Community Forums
339: Community Forums
340: Home
341: Community Forums
342: Community Forums
343: Community Forums
344: Photo Gallery
345: Downloads
346: Photo Gallery
347: Community Forums
348: Home
349: Downloads
350: Downloads
351: Community Forums
352: Community Forums
353: Home
354: Community Forums
355: Community Forums
356: Community Forums
357: Photo Gallery
358: Community Forums
359: Community Forums
360: Community Forums
361: Home
362: Your Account
363: Home
364: Community Forums
365: Home
366: Home
367: Community Forums
368: Photo Gallery
369: Community Forums
370: CPGlang
371: Community Forums
372: Your Account
373: Community Forums
374: Community Forums
375: Community Forums
376: Community Forums
377: CPGlang
378: Community Forums
379: Photo Gallery
380: Community Forums
381: Home
382: Home
383: Community Forums
384: Community Forums
385: Community Forums
386: Home
387: Photo Gallery
388: Community Forums
389: Your Account
390: Community Forums
391: Community Forums
392: Community Forums
393: Community Forums
394: Community Forums
395: Photo Gallery
396: Community Forums
397: Photo Gallery
398: Community Forums
399: Community Forums
400: Home
401: Community Forums
402: Member Screenshots
403: Community Forums
404: Community Forums
405: Statistics
406: Community Forums
407: Home
408: Community Forums
409: Community Forums
410: Community Forums
411: Community Forums
412: Community Forums
413: Community Forums
414: Photo Gallery
415: Home
416: Community Forums
417: Community Forums
418: Home
419: Community Forums
420: Community Forums
421: Community Forums
422: Home
423: Home
424: Community Forums
425: Community Forums
426: Community Forums
427: Community Forums
428: Community Forums
429: Photo Gallery
430: Community Forums
431: Home
432: Photo Gallery
433: Home
434: Home
435: Home
436: Home
437: Community Forums
438: Community Forums
439: Home
440: Community Forums
441: Community Forums
442: Community Forums
443: Home
444: Photo Gallery
445: Member Screenshots
446: Downloads
447: Community Forums
448: Community Forums
449: Community Forums
450: Photo Gallery
451: Community Forums
452: Community Forums
453: Community Forums
454: News
455: Community Forums
456: Community Forums
457: Community Forums
458: Community Forums
459: Community Forums
460: Community Forums
461: Photo Gallery
462: Community Forums
463: Community Forums
464: Community Forums
465: Photo Gallery
466: Photo Gallery
467: Community Forums
468: Home
469: Downloads
470: Home
471: Member Screenshots
472: Downloads
473: Home
474: Community Forums
475: Home
476: Community Forums
477: Downloads
478: Member Screenshots
479: Community Forums
480: Community Forums
481: Community Forums
482: Community Forums
483: Home
484: Community Forums
485: Community Forums
486: Community Forums
487: Community Forums
488: Downloads
489: Photo Gallery
490: Home
491: Home
492: Photo Gallery
493: Community Forums
494: Community Forums
495: Photo Gallery
496: Community Forums
497: Community Forums
498: Photo Gallery
499: Community Forums
500: Home
501: Community Forums
502: Home
503: Community Forums
504: Community Forums
505: News Archive
506: Community Forums
507: Community Forums
508: Community Forums
509: Home
510: Community Forums
511: Home
512: Home
513: Community Forums
514: Community Forums
515: Community Forums
516: Community Forums
517: Community Forums
518: Community Forums
519: Community Forums
520: Community Forums
521: Home
522: Downloads
523: Downloads
524: Community Forums
525: Community Forums
526: Home
527: Community Forums
528: Downloads
529: Community Forums
530: Photo Gallery
531: Community Forums
532: Community Forums
533: Community Forums
534: Your Account
535: Community Forums
536: Community Forums
537: CPGlang
538: Community Forums
539: Community Forums
540: Community Forums
541: Community Forums
542: Community Forums
543: Downloads
544: Community Forums
545: Community Forums
546: Home
547: Community Forums
548: Downloads
549: Community Forums
550: Community Forums
551: Photo Gallery
552: Community Forums
553: Home
554: Home
555: Community Forums
556: Home
557: Photo Gallery
558: Community Forums
559: Community Forums
560: Photo Gallery
561: Community Forums
562: Community Forums
563: Home
564: Home
565: Community Forums
566: Community Forums
567: Community Forums
568: Home
569: Community Forums
570: Photo Gallery
571: Community Forums
572: Community Forums
573: Home
574: Community Forums
575: Community Forums
576: Community Forums
577: Community Forums
578: Community Forums
579: Photo Gallery
580: Community Forums
581: Community Forums
582: Photo Gallery
583: Community Forums
584: Photo Gallery
585: Member Screenshots
586: CPGlang
587: Community Forums
588: Your Account
589: Photo Gallery
590: Community Forums
591: Community Forums
592: Community Forums
593: Home
594: Community Forums
595: Photo Gallery
596: Your Account
597: Community Forums
598: Community Forums
599: Community Forums
600: Community Forums
601: Community Forums
602: News
603: Community Forums
604: Community Forums
605: Community Forums
606: Statistics
607: Community Forums
608: Community Forums
609: Community Forums
610: Community Forums
611: Photo Gallery
612: Community Forums
613: Community Forums
614: Community Forums
615: Downloads
616: Community Forums
617: Community Forums
618: Community Forums
619: Community Forums
620: Community Forums
621: Photo Gallery
622: Photo Gallery
623: Photo Gallery
624: Community Forums
625: Photo Gallery
626: Community Forums
627: Home
628: Community Forums
629: Community Forums
630: Community Forums
631: News
632: Community Forums
633: Community Forums
634: Community Forums
635: Community Forums
636: Home
637: Community Forums
638: Community Forums
639: Community Forums
640: Community Forums
641: Photo Gallery
642: Photo Gallery
643: Community Forums
644: News Archive
645: Community Forums
646: Photo Gallery
647: Community Forums
648: Photo Gallery
649: Photo Gallery
650: Community Forums
651: Community Forums
652: Community Forums
653: Community Forums
654: Community Forums
655: Community Forums
656: Community Forums
657: Community Forums
658: Community Forums
659: Photo Gallery
660: Photo Gallery
661: Community Forums
662: Community Forums
663: Photo Gallery
664: Photo Gallery
665: Home
666: Community Forums
667: Home
668: Downloads
669: Member Screenshots
670: Your Account
671: Photo Gallery
672: Photo Gallery
673: Community Forums
674: Community Forums
675: Community Forums
676: Community Forums
677: Community Forums
678: Community Forums
679: Photo Gallery
680: Community Forums
681: Community Forums
682: Home
683: Community Forums
684: Community Forums
685: Community Forums
686: Community Forums
687: Photo Gallery
688: Community Forums
689: Home
690: Photo Gallery
691: Home
692: CPGlang
693: Photo Gallery
694: Photo Gallery
695: Photo Gallery
696: Photo Gallery
697: Community Forums
698: Downloads
699: Home

Staff Online:

No staff members are online!
Unknown surviving Panzer IV being restored?
The AFV ASSOCIATION was formed in 1964 to support the thoughts and research of all those interested in Armored Fighting Vehicles and related topics, such as AFV drawings. The emphasis has always been on sharing information and communicating with other members of similar interests; e.g. German armor, Japanese AFVs, or whatever.
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page     Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board

View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
the_shadock
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: May 27, 2006
Posts: 2865
Location: Normandy, France
PostPosted: Sat Dec 25, 2010 10:03 am
Post subject: Unknown surviving Panzer IV being restored?





Hello,

"Sander D" came across these pictures, showing a Panzer IV being restored. That Panzer IV doesn't seem to correspond with surviving ones already known. First, I though that it was Kubinka's one, but it isn't. It is neither Saumur's Ausf. H late, nor Dresden's Ausf. H (both tanks are also being restored).

Any guess about its ownership and location?

Pierre-Olivier

_________________
soldat_ryan @ hotmail.com

Looking for photos of Sherman manufacturer's plates
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Visit poster's website MSN Messenger
Koluchiy
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: May 19, 2009
Posts: 178

PostPosted: Sat Dec 25, 2010 10:08 am
Post subject: Re: Unknown surviving Panzer IV being restored?

New-made turret'box?

_________________
RTY on other forums;

Looking for Pz.IV manuals D 653/2 Erzatsteilliste(pictures), D 653/10, D 653/25 (Handbuch fur den Panzerfahrer), D 653/50b, D 653/50c, D653/51
Looking for Maybach HL120 repair instruction...
(Copyes or scans)
Can pay money or exchange
Back to top
View user's profile
the_shadock
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: May 27, 2006
Posts: 2865
Location: Normandy, France
PostPosted: Sat Dec 25, 2010 10:16 am
Post subject: Re: Unknown surviving Panzer IV being restored?

- Koluchiy
New-made turret'box?


I guess so.

P-O

_________________
soldat_ryan @ hotmail.com

Looking for photos of Sherman manufacturer's plates
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Visit poster's website MSN Messenger
Pzkpfw-e
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jul 21, 2010
Posts: 1202

PostPosted: Sat Dec 25, 2010 9:29 pm
Post subject: Re: Unknown surviving Panzer IV being restored?

Looking at the photos, it looks like a Centurion's sprocket in the top photo and various British posters on the wall in the bottom one.
So, who in the UK has PzIV?
Steve Lamonby (Photo missing on the big list!)
Cadman Bros (Pretty well intact?)
Wheatcroft (Website's back up & running)
Back to top
View user's profile
Pzkpfw-e
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jul 21, 2010
Posts: 1202

PostPosted: Sat Dec 25, 2010 9:49 pm
Post subject: Re: Unknown surviving Panzer IV being restored?

Right guys, hot off the press.
It's at A+S in Suffolk, being restored for unnamed customer.
Apparently has an FV432 engine & gear box.
Also doing a Hetzer, www.arm-soft.com/ongoi.../index.php
Back to top
View user's profile
the_shadock
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: May 27, 2006
Posts: 2865
Location: Normandy, France
PostPosted: Sat Dec 25, 2010 10:08 pm
Post subject: Re: Unknown surviving Panzer IV being restored?

thanks Adam !!

well, apparently, it is not the Cadman's one, and Kevin Wheatcroft would make it being restored by his oww team. So, it could be Steve Lamonby's tank.

Pierre-Olivier

_________________
soldat_ryan @ hotmail.com

Looking for photos of Sherman manufacturer's plates
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Visit poster's website MSN Messenger
the_shadock
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: May 27, 2006
Posts: 2865
Location: Normandy, France
PostPosted: Sat Dec 25, 2010 10:12 pm
Post subject: Re: Unknown surviving Panzer IV being restored?

- Pzkpfw-e
Wheatcroft (Website's back up & running)


but still no update..

Pierre-Olivier

_________________
soldat_ryan @ hotmail.com

Looking for photos of Sherman manufacturer's plates
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Visit poster's website MSN Messenger
Pzkpfw-e
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jul 21, 2010
Posts: 1202

PostPosted: Sun Dec 26, 2010 4:23 pm
Post subject: Re: Unknown surviving Panzer IV being restored?

Yep, no updates, which is a pity.
On the subject of the PzIV, just because it's being restored in the UK, doesn't necessarily mean it's being restored for a UK owner.
Back to top
View user's profile
the_shadock
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: May 27, 2006
Posts: 2865
Location: Normandy, France
PostPosted: Sun Dec 26, 2010 5:46 pm
Post subject: Re: Unknown surviving Panzer IV being restored?

- Pzkpfw-e


could be the tank listed as "G-13 Tank Destroyer wreck - 12th SS-Panzerdivision reenactment unit, CA (USA)". There are some similarities between the two vehicles, see the pic below :



P-O

_________________
soldat_ryan @ hotmail.com

Looking for photos of Sherman manufacturer's plates
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Visit poster's website MSN Messenger
recceboy
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Feb 22, 2006
Posts: 172
Location: Edmonton,Alberta
PostPosted: Mon Dec 27, 2010 6:43 am
Post subject: Re: Unknown surviving Panzer IV being restored?

The Hetzer in the UK looks to be in better condition, they look the same but the UK one's floor and hull sponsion is in better condition than the US one, and with the gun mount missing from the UK one you can see it looks to be in better condition. Maybe wrong ,but they look to be different Hetzers.

Anthony
Back to top
View user's profile
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page    Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board
Page 1 of 1
All times are GMT - 6 Hours



Jump to:  


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You cannot download files in this forum