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RAF92_BattleHawk
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Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 9:16 pm Post subject: Gripe or Grip?
My brother and I have a constant arguement. He thinks the the JAS Gripen is said Grip-en. I say Gripe-n. Ya know Grip and Gripe... Anyone wanna help us stop this once and for all? _________________ 'Aut Pugna aut Morere'

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Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 9:49 pm Post subject: Re: Gripe or Grip?
With it only having a single P it should be pronounced Gripe-n IMHO

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Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 11:20 pm Post subject: Re: Gripe or Grip?
well Actually the word "Gripen" in Swedish means Griffin. Thus the pronunciation includes the letter "P" for English speakers. so i would say its grip as i never heard of the pronunciation of grife-n....... _________________ Lay me place and bake me Pie I'm starving for me Gravy

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Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 11:52 pm Post subject: Re: Gripe or Grip?
also this i found "gripen can mean two things, depending on tone. On one hand it means 'touched' (in a figurative way of speaking), and on the other it means 'the griphon'. but i will check with Shadow_Cyklop hes a swed, i'll get him to say it on his webcam tmrw n get back to you... _________________ Lay me place and bake me Pie I'm starving for me Gravy

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Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2006 11:22 am Post subject: Re: Gripe or Grip?
ok results are it sounds like greepen! with i sounding like extended e in english _________________ Lay me place and bake me Pie I'm starving for me Gravy

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Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2006 11:27 am
Post subject: Re: Gripe or Grip?

Neva!
it's a Gri[PP]en.

And a 'scone' is a sko[h]nn (or, possibly, sko[w]ne)

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Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2006 12:25 pm
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Original blueprints for the aircraft had an umlaut over the i, an accent grave over the e, and a tilde-weirdthing over the p to soften it to a "v" sound (much like the soft "ph" in Griffen as above, but the intent was to lend a "v" sound). GrÃƒÂ¯ÃƒÅ¾ÃƒÂ¨n.

The result (and intent shown in the blueprints) is to arrive at a pronunciation which appeals to the multinational customer base via a phrase resurrected and made popular from recent Austin Powers movies: "Groovin'"

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