±Recent Visitors

Recent Visitors to Com-Central!

±User Info-big


Welcome Anonymous

Nickname
Password

Membership:
Latest: HighestAce
New Today: 0
New Yesterday: 0
Overall: 6648

People Online:
Members: 0
Visitors: 313
Total: 313
Who Is Where:
 Visitors:
01: Home
02: Member Screenshots
03: Home
04: Community Forums
05: News Archive
06: Community Forums
07: Downloads
08: Community Forums
09: Community Forums
10: News Archive
11: Member Screenshots
12: Home
13: Community Forums
14: Home
15: Member Screenshots
16: Home
17: Member Screenshots
18: Member Screenshots
19: Community Forums
20: Community Forums
21: Member Screenshots
22: Community Forums
23: Community Forums
24: Home
25: Community Forums
26: Home
27: Community Forums
28: Member Screenshots
29: Community Forums
30: Community Forums
31: Community Forums
32: Community Forums
33: Community Forums
34: Home
35: Home
36: Member Screenshots
37: Home
38: Home
39: Downloads
40: Downloads
41: Community Forums
42: Member Screenshots
43: Home
44: Downloads
45: Community Forums
46: Community Forums
47: News Archive
48: Community Forums
49: Community Forums
50: Community Forums
51: Home
52: Photo Gallery
53: Statistics
54: Community Forums
55: Home
56: Community Forums
57: Community Forums
58: Home
59: Community Forums
60: Member Screenshots
61: Home
62: Photo Gallery
63: Member Screenshots
64: Member Screenshots
65: Community Forums
66: News Archive
67: Community Forums
68: Community Forums
69: Community Forums
70: Home
71: Community Forums
72: Member Screenshots
73: News
74: Community Forums
75: Community Forums
76: Community Forums
77: Community Forums
78: Home
79: Home
80: Downloads
81: Downloads
82: Community Forums
83: Community Forums
84: Community Forums
85: Home
86: News
87: Community Forums
88: Community Forums
89: Downloads
90: Community Forums
91: Search
92: Home
93: Community Forums
94: Member Screenshots
95: Home
96: Home
97: Community Forums
98: Home
99: Community Forums
100: Photo Gallery
101: Home
102: Community Forums
103: Photo Gallery
104: News
105: News Archive
106: Your Account
107: Home
108: Community Forums
109: Community Forums
110: Home
111: Photo Gallery
112: Downloads
113: Downloads
114: Community Forums
115: Downloads
116: Community Forums
117: Home
118: Community Forums
119: Home
120: Downloads
121: Community Forums
122: Member Screenshots
123: Member Screenshots
124: Community Forums
125: Your Account
126: News
127: Community Forums
128: Member Screenshots
129: Community Forums
130: Community Forums
131: Member Screenshots
132: Home
133: Home
134: Community Forums
135: News
136: Community Forums
137: Community Forums
138: Home
139: Community Forums
140: Community Forums
141: Community Forums
142: Member Screenshots
143: Home
144: Community Forums
145: Home
146: Home
147: Community Forums
148: News
149: Community Forums
150: Home
151: Home
152: Community Forums
153: Community Forums
154: Home
155: Community Forums
156: Community Forums
157: Home
158: Home
159: Home
160: Community Forums
161: Home
162: Home
163: News Archive
164: Home
165: Community Forums
166: Home
167: Community Forums
168: Community Forums
169: Community Forums
170: Home
171: Community Forums
172: Home
173: Downloads
174: Member Screenshots
175: News
176: Community Forums
177: Home
178: Statistics
179: Home
180: Photo Gallery
181: Community Forums
182: Your Account
183: Community Forums
184: Home
185: Member Screenshots
186: Photo Gallery
187: Community Forums
188: Downloads
189: Member Screenshots
190: Home
191: Home
192: Community Forums
193: Home
194: News
195: Community Forums
196: Home
197: Downloads
198: Community Forums
199: Community Forums
200: Home
201: Community Forums
202: Community Forums
203: Community Forums
204: Home
205: Home
206: Community Forums
207: Member Screenshots
208: Community Forums
209: Community Forums
210: Community Forums
211: Member Screenshots
212: Home
213: Community Forums
214: Community Forums
215: Community Forums
216: Community Forums
217: Home
218: Community Forums
219: Community Forums
220: Member Screenshots
221: Community Forums
222: Community Forums
223: Community Forums
224: Home
225: Home
226: Community Forums
227: Home
228: Community Forums
229: Member Screenshots
230: Community Forums
231: Community Forums
232: Community Forums
233: Community Forums
234: Member Screenshots
235: Home
236: Community Forums
237: Community Forums
238: Home
239: Community Forums
240: Photo Gallery
241: Member Screenshots
242: Home
243: Community Forums
244: Home
245: Home
246: Home
247: Community Forums
248: Home
249: Community Forums
250: Member Screenshots
251: Community Forums
252: Home
253: Member Screenshots
254: Community Forums
255: Community Forums
256: News
257: Home
258: Community Forums
259: Downloads
260: Home
261: Home
262: Home
263: Member Screenshots
264: Home
265: Community Forums
266: Community Forums
267: Downloads
268: Home
269: Community Forums
270: Community Forums
271: Community Forums
272: Home
273: Community Forums
274: Photo Gallery
275: Community Forums
276: Home
277: Community Forums
278: Home
279: Member Screenshots
280: Photo Gallery
281: Downloads
282: Community Forums
283: Community Forums
284: Your Account
285: Community Forums
286: Community Forums
287: Photo Gallery
288: Downloads
289: Home
290: Community Forums
291: Community Forums
292: Member Screenshots
293: Community Forums
294: Community Forums
295: Community Forums
296: Community Forums
297: Community Forums
298: Member Screenshots
299: Home
300: News
301: Community Forums
302: Member Screenshots
303: Community Forums
304: Community Forums
305: Downloads
306: Community Forums
307: Community Forums
308: Home
309: Member Screenshots
310: Community Forums
311: Home
312: Community Forums
313: Member Screenshots

Staff Online:

No staff members are online!
Strange Skoda 105mm
A forum dedicated for the discussion of all kinds of artillery topics.
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page     Forum Index ›  Artillery Forum

View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
CharlieC
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Oct 24, 2012
Posts: 58

PostPosted: Fri Sep 13, 2013 11:20 am
Post subject: Strange Skoda 105mm

Some images of an unusual Skoda 105mm.

The base gun seems to be a 10cm Skoda M14/19. The wheels look like 25 Pounder wheels, the traverse platform is also 25 Pounder. The muzzle brake looks like it came off a German 10cm LeFH 18.

The markings on the breech say (in Serbo-Croation):

Military Technical Institute
Kragujevac
Fabr. Nr. 1036

Is this a "one off" creation or did the Yugoslavs convert a number of old Skoda 14/19s? Any ideas when the conversion was done?

Regards,

Charlie

_________________
landships.info
Back to top
View user's profile
Costas_TT
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Feb 15, 2012
Posts: 387

PostPosted: Fri Sep 13, 2013 11:30 pm
Post subject: Re: Strange Skoda 105mm

The whole configuration is that of the Italian Obice da 105/22 Mod. 14/61. The Yugoslav markings can be easily explained.
To quote Massimo Foti:
It's name is 105/22 mod 1961 and it has a very long and interesting story.

During the WW I the austro-hungarians used a 10 cm M14 howitzer. After the war the italians captured many of them and used as 100/17 mod 1914 up to the WW II and even later.

Immediately after WW I, Skoda kept producing artillery pieces and evolved the design into a 100/22, the vz19 you can see in Brussels. At that time the austro-hungarian empire was already gone, so it was a czechoslovakian gun.

The gun was acquired, among others, by Poland and Yugoslavia.

In 1941 the italians captured a bunch of these from the yugoslavian army, and immediately put them into service, since they shared the same ammo with the 100/17. Italians also obtained more guns from the germans (captured from Czechoslovakia, Poland and Yugoslavia).

The most amazing thing is that after WW II the italian army updated these guns. They were rechambered to 105 mm (to use standard NATO ammo), got a muzzle brake, a Hogg Device (from 25 pdr) and entered service as 105/22 mod 1961.


and a link:
www.modellismopiu.it/m...mp;forum=7

I have seen guns of this type with the upper folding part of the shield being wider than the main part below it, but I guess it can be attributed to the varied origins of the weapons converted to the Mod. 14/61 standard.

_________________
1/72 and 1/76 scale fanatic.
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website
CharlieC
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Oct 24, 2012
Posts: 58

PostPosted: Sat Sep 14, 2013 10:41 pm
Post subject: Re: Strange Skoda 105mm

Thank you - the howitzer certainly is consistent with the Obice da 105/22 Mod 14/61. I haven't seen an image of the breech ring which should have the Italian markings so the ident is provisional.

It's an impressive howitzer - recycled parts from 25 Pounders and a barrel/breech design which goes back to WW1. A cheap way to build a howitzer which outperformed the US M2A1.

Regards,

Charlie

_________________
landships.info
Back to top
View user's profile
Costas_TT
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Feb 15, 2012
Posts: 387

PostPosted: Sun Sep 15, 2013 12:51 am
Post subject: Re: Strange Skoda 105mm

You are welcome. Glad I could help.

_________________
1/72 and 1/76 scale fanatic.
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page    Forum Index ›  Artillery Forum
Page 1 of 1
All times are GMT - 6 Hours



Jump to:  


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You cannot download files in this forum