±Recent Visitors

Recent Visitors to Com-Central!

±User Info-big


Welcome Anonymous

Nickname
Password

Membership:
Latest: HighestAce
New Today: 0
New Yesterday: 0
Overall: 6648

People Online:
Members: 0
Visitors: 476
Total: 476
Who Is Where:
 Visitors:
01: Home
02: Home
03: Home
04: Home
05: Home
06: Home
07: Home
08: Home
09: Home
10: Home
11: Home
12: Home
13: Home
14: Home
15: Home
16: Home
17: Home
18: Home
19: Home
20: Home
21: Home
22: News
23: Home
24: Home
25: Home
26: Home
27: Home
28: Home
29: Home
30: Home
31: Home
32: Home
33: Home
34: Home
35: Home
36: Home
37: Home
38: Community Forums
39: Community Forums
40: Community Forums
41: Community Forums
42: Community Forums
43: Community Forums
44: Member Screenshots
45: Community Forums
46: Home
47: News Archive
48: Community Forums
49: Home
50: Community Forums
51: Community Forums
52: Community Forums
53: Community Forums
54: Community Forums
55: Photo Gallery
56: Home
57: Community Forums
58: Home
59: Community Forums
60: Community Forums
61: Home
62: Home
63: Your Account
64: Community Forums
65: Photo Gallery
66: Community Forums
67: Community Forums
68: Community Forums
69: Your Account
70: Downloads
71: Downloads
72: Home
73: Home
74: Home
75: Home
76: Photo Gallery
77: Community Forums
78: Community Forums
79: Home
80: Community Forums
81: Community Forums
82: Home
83: Community Forums
84: Community Forums
85: Home
86: Downloads
87: Your Account
88: News
89: News
90: Downloads
91: Community Forums
92: Community Forums
93: Member Screenshots
94: Photo Gallery
95: Home
96: Home
97: Community Forums
98: Photo Gallery
99: News
100: Home
101: Community Forums
102: Community Forums
103: Home
104: Community Forums
105: Community Forums
106: Community Forums
107: Community Forums
108: Community Forums
109: Your Account
110: Your Account
111: Community Forums
112: Community Forums
113: Community Forums
114: Photo Gallery
115: Community Forums
116: Community Forums
117: News
118: Community Forums
119: Community Forums
120: Community Forums
121: Community Forums
122: Home
123: Community Forums
124: Member Screenshots
125: Community Forums
126: News
127: Home
128: Home
129: Home
130: News Archive
131: Home
132: News Archive
133: Photo Gallery
134: Community Forums
135: Community Forums
136: Your Account
137: Community Forums
138: Home
139: Community Forums
140: Home
141: Photo Gallery
142: Home
143: Home
144: Community Forums
145: Home
146: Community Forums
147: Home
148: Photo Gallery
149: Home
150: Home
151: Community Forums
152: Home
153: Downloads
154: Home
155: Home
156: News
157: Member Screenshots
158: Your Account
159: Home
160: News Archive
161: Community Forums
162: Home
163: News
164: Home
165: Home
166: Community Forums
167: Community Forums
168: Community Forums
169: Community Forums
170: Home
171: Community Forums
172: Community Forums
173: Home
174: Photo Gallery
175: Community Forums
176: Member Screenshots
177: Community Forums
178: Community Forums
179: Member Screenshots
180: Community Forums
181: Home
182: Community Forums
183: Community Forums
184: Home
185: Your Account
186: Community Forums
187: Member Screenshots
188: Community Forums
189: Community Forums
190: Home
191: Statistics
192: Photo Gallery
193: News Archive
194: Member Screenshots
195: Community Forums
196: Community Forums
197: Member Screenshots
198: Member Screenshots
199: Member Screenshots
200: Community Forums
201: Community Forums
202: Community Forums
203: News
204: Home
205: Member Screenshots
206: Community Forums
207: Member Screenshots
208: Downloads
209: Home
210: Home
211: Home
212: Community Forums
213: Community Forums
214: Downloads
215: Your Account
216: Community Forums
217: Home
218: News Archive
219: Member Screenshots
220: Home
221: Search
222: News Archive
223: Home
224: Community Forums
225: Home
226: Home
227: News
228: Your Account
229: Community Forums
230: Home
231: Community Forums
232: Community Forums
233: Community Forums
234: Community Forums
235: Home
236: Community Forums
237: Member Screenshots
238: Community Forums
239: Community Forums
240: Photo Gallery
241: Member Screenshots
242: Community Forums
243: Home
244: Community Forums
245: Home
246: Community Forums
247: Your Account
248: Home
249: Member Screenshots
250: Home
251: Community Forums
252: Community Forums
253: Community Forums
254: Home
255: Member Screenshots
256: Member Screenshots
257: Home
258: Community Forums
259: Photo Gallery
260: Downloads
261: Home
262: Home
263: Community Forums
264: Home
265: Community Forums
266: Photo Gallery
267: Home
268: Community Forums
269: Home
270: Home
271: Photo Gallery
272: Community Forums
273: Member Screenshots
274: Community Forums
275: Home
276: Home
277: Community Forums
278: Home
279: Your Account
280: Home
281: Community Forums
282: Photo Gallery
283: Community Forums
284: Community Forums
285: Community Forums
286: Community Forums
287: Home
288: Downloads
289: Home
290: Community Forums
291: Home
292: Community Forums
293: Photo Gallery
294: Community Forums
295: Home
296: Your Account
297: Community Forums
298: Community Forums
299: Community Forums
300: Community Forums
301: Community Forums
302: Member Screenshots
303: Search
304: Home
305: Community Forums
306: Home
307: Home
308: Downloads
309: Photo Gallery
310: Home
311: Home
312: Home
313: Member Screenshots
314: Community Forums
315: News Archive
316: Your Account
317: Home
318: Photo Gallery
319: Downloads
320: Community Forums
321: Photo Gallery
322: Home
323: Photo Gallery
324: Home
325: Community Forums
326: Home
327: Community Forums
328: Home
329: Community Forums
330: Community Forums
331: Community Forums
332: Home
333: Downloads
334: Home
335: Home
336: News Archive
337: Photo Gallery
338: Home
339: Home
340: Home
341: Photo Gallery
342: Community Forums
343: Home
344: Downloads
345: Community Forums
346: Home
347: Home
348: Your Account
349: Home
350: Home
351: Home
352: Your Account
353: Community Forums
354: Home
355: Community Forums
356: Community Forums
357: Home
358: Member Screenshots
359: Home
360: Community Forums
361: Home
362: Community Forums
363: Home
364: Community Forums
365: Community Forums
366: Home
367: Community Forums
368: Community Forums
369: Community Forums
370: Home
371: Community Forums
372: Community Forums
373: Photo Gallery
374: Your Account
375: Community Forums
376: News Archive
377: Member Screenshots
378: Community Forums
379: Home
380: Home
381: Home
382: Community Forums
383: Community Forums
384: Community Forums
385: Home
386: Community Forums
387: Community Forums
388: Community Forums
389: Home
390: Community Forums
391: Community Forums
392: Home
393: Downloads
394: Home
395: Home
396: Community Forums
397: Home
398: Community Forums
399: News
400: Home
401: Your Account
402: Community Forums
403: Community Forums
404: Community Forums
405: Downloads
406: Community Forums
407: Downloads
408: Photo Gallery
409: Home
410: Home
411: News Archive
412: Home
413: Community Forums
414: Member Screenshots
415: Community Forums
416: Community Forums
417: Community Forums
418: Community Forums
419: Home
420: Community Forums
421: Home
422: Home
423: Home
424: Home
425: Photo Gallery
426: News Archive
427: Home
428: Your Account
429: Community Forums
430: Photo Gallery
431: Home
432: Community Forums
433: Community Forums
434: Community Forums
435: Community Forums
436: Your Account
437: Community Forums
438: Home
439: Home
440: Home
441: Your Account
442: Home
443: Home
444: Home
445: Community Forums
446: Home
447: Member Screenshots
448: Community Forums
449: Community Forums
450: Your Account
451: Home
452: News Archive
453: Home
454: Community Forums
455: Home
456: Downloads
457: Home
458: Home
459: Home
460: Home
461: Member Screenshots
462: Community Forums
463: Search
464: Home
465: Home
466: Home
467: Photo Gallery
468: Community Forums
469: Home
470: Home
471: Home
472: Community Forums
473: Home
474: Community Forums
475: Home
476: Home

Staff Online:

No staff members are online!
The browser WAR continues, who's leading the pack? :: Archived
This is a forum for Software related items such as OS', Virus notices, cool or free programs, etc. Gaming software should go in the gaming folder pertaining to the current info.
Go to page 1, 2  Next
Post new topic    Revive this topic    Printer Friendly Page     Forum Index ›  Software

Topic Archived View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
Shadow_Bshwackr
Janitor

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 21, 2005
Posts: 7019
Location: Central Illinois, USA
PostPosted: Fri Dec 02, 2005 4:37 pm
Post subject: The browser WAR continues, who's leading the pack?

Just thought I would post this for all to read...:wink:

CNET editors' review
for Firefox 1.5
Reviewed by: Robert Vamosi
Edited by: Allen Fear
Review date: 11/29/05

They said it couldn't be done, but during the first few months of 2005, the Mozilla Organization's Firefox browser carved a sizable dent in Microsoft Internet Explorer's domination over the desktop Internet browser market, and this new release should bring even more converts. Now courting roughly 10 percent of the browser market with versions that run on Windows, Mac, and Linux platforms, Firefox 1.5 continues to make usability and features a cornerstone of its success. Unlike Internet Explorer 6, Firefox 1.5 offers built-in search, tabbed browsing, and an RSS reader. The new features we see in Firefox 1.5 easily best the bells and whistles we've seen within the upcoming release of Internet Explorer 7 for Windows XP.

After downloading Firefox 1.5, you'll find that the changes to the interface are subtle. We liked the way you can reorder tabs by simply dragging and dropping them in the order you'd prefer. We also like the search box feature; new to this release is the inclusion of Answers.com in the search bar by default (of course, you can always add other search engines on your own). Want to look up something on the Web? Simply highlight a word or text within a page, then drag and drop it into the search box for an instant search. Most of the changes are beneath the hood, such as improvements to pop-up blocking and better support for Mac OS X. Also new is binary patching, which updates only the sections of code that have changed from version to version, thus automatic updates to the latest version of Firefox are not only possible, but relatively painless (even for dial-up users).

There are also a number of security enhancements within Firefox 1.5. Whenever you access a Secure Socket Layer (SSL)-protected Web site, the Firefox address bar turns yellow and displays the padlock icon after the address (a handy feature for detecting potential online phishing scams). Version 1.5 also offers a one-click Clear Personal Data option, which deletes your browser's history, cache, and cookies after, say, an online banking session. Firefox does not support ActiveX, which is both good and bad. It's good because you'll be safe from an increasing number of ActiveX malware attacks, but it's bad because some Web sites might not render properly. Firefox does support other popular and emerging Web standards, including SVG, Canvas, CSS3 Columns, and JavaScript 1.6.

Unfortunately, if you're attached to your current set of Firefox extensions, plug-ins that provide Firefox with additional use, you'll need to update almost all of them. Some extensions written for the current Firefox simply do not work within Firefox 1.5, although Mozilla says it's working to tweak these into shape. Also, as Firefox continues to grow as the default alternative to Internet Explorer, look for more coding flaws to be reported. Of the flaws announced so far, Firefox has had far fewer critical flaws than Internet Explorer, and in general, Mozilla has been quick to patch them, while Microsoft has waited up to three months at times.

The first thing we noticed after installing Firefox 1.5 was its speed--even complex pages, with plenty of Flash and Shockwave content, loaded much faster than the first version of Firefox. New caching technology means hitting the Back button will return previously viewed pages almost instantly. Support options for Firefox 1.5 include extensive online documentation and FAQs, a very active online community forum, newsgroups, online chat, and telephone support hosted by a third party, InfoSpan for $39.95 per incident. We found Mozilla's up-front disclosure of options and costs refreshing; Microsoft's support options for Internet Explorer, for example, are not clear, and costs for telephone support are not disclosed until after you've initiated your call.


Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website Photo Gallery
Shades
Forum Tree-Rat

Offline Offline
Joined: Mar 07, 2005
Posts: 6475
Location: 3rd Branch up, 'Ye Olde Oak', Green Wood.
PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2005 8:13 pm
Post subject: Re: The browser WAR continues, who's leading the pack?

Missed this originally.
Those percentages are slightly inaccurate.
I'm not a fan of the Fox but it's actually got almost twice that reported figure with an average 18-19% of the market so far this year (before the upgrade). Just in Jan of this year it had over 16% of the market and it's highpoint in May saw it with 21%
2005 averages up to the end of October (reported):
IE6 has around 66-67%
IE5 has around 6-7%
The old Mozilla has around 3%
Netscape Navigator is under 1% of the market these days and the rest account for the change.

_________________
Skwerl's place.

Com-Central's cutest, fluffiest, twitchiest, tail.
CPU > Intel i9-9900k (o/c 4.9GHz); COOLING > BeQuiet! Dark Rock Pro 4;
MOBO > ASUS PRIME Z390-A; RAM > 2x32GB Corsair LPX 2666MHz;
GPU > Gigabyte GEFORCE GTX650Ti PCI-e 3.0 2Gb GDDR5;
AUDIO > Creative X-Fi Xtreme Music (plus - Universal Audio UAD2 Quad Custom accelerator);
HDD > 3x1TB+ M.2. SSDs; LCD > DELL - S2419HGF (1920x1080);
PSU > 650W be quiet Straight Power 11 - 80+ Gold;
CASE > BeQuiet! SILENT BASE 601; OS > Windows 11 Home Advanced (64-bit).
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website ICQ Number
Shadow_Bshwackr
Janitor

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 21, 2005
Posts: 7019
Location: Central Illinois, USA
PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2005 8:23 pm
Post subject: Re: The browser WAR continues, who's leading the pack?

Those are better numbers than I expected Wink

I've been using FireFox since the name was Firebird...:D Once you get on to using the features on FF, you'll whine about using IE. There are a few reasons to keep IE on your agenda, but overall, it's FireFox all the way for me.
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website Photo Gallery
Shades
Forum Tree-Rat

Offline Offline
Joined: Mar 07, 2005
Posts: 6475
Location: 3rd Branch up, 'Ye Olde Oak', Green Wood.
PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2005 8:29 pm
Post subject: Re: The browser WAR continues, who's leading the pack?

I have tried it, just didn't like it.
I've uninstalled it since.
I seem to one of the 'unfashionable few' at the moment.
lol

[edit: here's a link to my source for the browser 'popularity' figures]

_________________
Skwerl's place.

Com-Central's cutest, fluffiest, twitchiest, tail.
CPU > Intel i9-9900k (o/c 4.9GHz); COOLING > BeQuiet! Dark Rock Pro 4;
MOBO > ASUS PRIME Z390-A; RAM > 2x32GB Corsair LPX 2666MHz;
GPU > Gigabyte GEFORCE GTX650Ti PCI-e 3.0 2Gb GDDR5;
AUDIO > Creative X-Fi Xtreme Music (plus - Universal Audio UAD2 Quad Custom accelerator);
HDD > 3x1TB+ M.2. SSDs; LCD > DELL - S2419HGF (1920x1080);
PSU > 650W be quiet Straight Power 11 - 80+ Gold;
CASE > BeQuiet! SILENT BASE 601; OS > Windows 11 Home Advanced (64-bit).
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website ICQ Number
Hangman
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Nov 19, 2004
Posts: 449

PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2005 10:57 pm
Post subject: Re: The browser WAR continues, who's leading the pack?

you're not the only one that didn't care for it Shades, tried it myself sometime back. It didn't work well with a few of my favorite porn sites, had to give it up & keep viewing with IE. Smile
Back to top
View user's profile Photo Gallery
Shades
Forum Tree-Rat

Offline Offline
Joined: Mar 07, 2005
Posts: 6475
Location: 3rd Branch up, 'Ye Olde Oak', Green Wood.
PostPosted: Thu Dec 08, 2005 11:28 am
Post subject: Re: The browser WAR continues, who's leading the pack?

Yeh, that's exactly what I fou....
Ermmmm.......
Never mind....



Wink

_________________
Skwerl's place.

Com-Central's cutest, fluffiest, twitchiest, tail.
CPU > Intel i9-9900k (o/c 4.9GHz); COOLING > BeQuiet! Dark Rock Pro 4;
MOBO > ASUS PRIME Z390-A; RAM > 2x32GB Corsair LPX 2666MHz;
GPU > Gigabyte GEFORCE GTX650Ti PCI-e 3.0 2Gb GDDR5;
AUDIO > Creative X-Fi Xtreme Music (plus - Universal Audio UAD2 Quad Custom accelerator);
HDD > 3x1TB+ M.2. SSDs; LCD > DELL - S2419HGF (1920x1080);
PSU > 650W be quiet Straight Power 11 - 80+ Gold;
CASE > BeQuiet! SILENT BASE 601; OS > Windows 11 Home Advanced (64-bit).
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website ICQ Number
Shadow_Bshwackr
Janitor

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 21, 2005
Posts: 7019
Location: Central Illinois, USA
PostPosted: Thu Dec 08, 2005 12:09 pm
Post subject: Re: The browser WAR continues, who's leading the pack?

LOL Hangy and Shades.....

I have to ask, what it is that you like/dislike about each browser? I know all of us have different preferences, so should we list the pro's and con's or preferences of each? Wink
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website Photo Gallery
XcalibeR
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Mar 11, 2005
Posts: 358

PostPosted: Thu Dec 08, 2005 1:50 pm
Post subject: Re: The browser WAR continues, who's leading the pack?

Personally, I like the customizability of Firefox. There are so many addons, they're easy to install, and you can put anything anywhere. Buttons and bars are easy to move around. It's a just a lot easier to navigate and use than IE.

_________________


[TSF]Lt. Col. XcalibeR{5thF}
PG_Raptor
Back to top
View user's profile Photo Gallery
Hangman
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Nov 19, 2004
Posts: 449

PostPosted: Thu Dec 08, 2005 9:12 pm
Post subject: Re: The browser WAR continues, who's leading the pack?

For me there were some issue with Java (I think) enabled sites...couldn't get some of the bells & whistles to work right...it probably woould have if I'd spent more time tuning it but I have the patience of a virgin in a whore house...if I can't get it with some simple tweaking it ain't worth gettin Smile
Back to top
View user's profile Photo Gallery
Shades
Forum Tree-Rat

Offline Offline
Joined: Mar 07, 2005
Posts: 6475
Location: 3rd Branch up, 'Ye Olde Oak', Green Wood.
PostPosted: Fri Dec 09, 2005 8:22 am
Post subject: Re: The browser WAR continues, who's leading the pack?

Some site layouts (and even colours) don't display the same. I'm as guilty as everyone else and only build mine with IE in mind, but then I'm not doing 'em professionally and I still like IE.
While 3/4 of users are still using IE, so will I.
Also, I just don't see the advantages the fox's fans like.
As yet I see no reason to change and I jest plain refuse to do it because the fox is supposedly 'more secure'. As a Londoner, that'd be the same as going to Birmingham instead of London because of July 7th.

By the way, WE ARE STILL NOT AFRAID. Smile

_________________
Skwerl's place.

Com-Central's cutest, fluffiest, twitchiest, tail.
CPU > Intel i9-9900k (o/c 4.9GHz); COOLING > BeQuiet! Dark Rock Pro 4;
MOBO > ASUS PRIME Z390-A; RAM > 2x32GB Corsair LPX 2666MHz;
GPU > Gigabyte GEFORCE GTX650Ti PCI-e 3.0 2Gb GDDR5;
AUDIO > Creative X-Fi Xtreme Music (plus - Universal Audio UAD2 Quad Custom accelerator);
HDD > 3x1TB+ M.2. SSDs; LCD > DELL - S2419HGF (1920x1080);
PSU > 650W be quiet Straight Power 11 - 80+ Gold;
CASE > BeQuiet! SILENT BASE 601; OS > Windows 11 Home Advanced (64-bit).
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website ICQ Number
Shadow_Bshwackr
Janitor

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 21, 2005
Posts: 7019
Location: Central Illinois, USA
PostPosted: Fri Dec 09, 2005 4:02 pm
Post subject: Re: The browser WAR continues, who's leading the pack?

I agree with the different browser displays, we go through those issues with CC. Lucky for us, they're not all that bad and are usually fixable. Wink

The advantages for FF as I see them are:

Tabbed browsing. I do a lot of research and at times have a lot of pages open. Tabbed browsing helps me keep them in 'groups'. Tabbed has become so popular that IE came out with their version, although, it's not as good as FF IMO.

SpellCheck: This will let you spell check any text box open in your browser such as this one. In sites like CC, most boards don't offer any kind of Spell Check and this is necessary IMO.

Web Developer: Another great add-on for CC, but as the name implies, only good for Web Developers....or is it? Functions such as Right Click menu and Menu bar displays lets you gather all sorts of information. While it really is more valuable to the Webmaster, it's sources such as Display Image paths, Display image sizes, could be useful to people who need that info to post pics on a forum for example.

BBCode: Available as a right click menu extension, this does some great things if you use or go to places that has Bulletin Boards like CC has here. Need that quick URL to post as a "word" instead of that LONG URL? This has that feature. Very nice and very professional and exportable into XHTML format too. More features such as Paste Quote, Make Image URL are a couple more things I use on a daily basis.

FoxClocks: This will display in a configurable menu, times from around the world. I love this addon as I have friends all over the world and this helps me understand the time difference. For instance, at this posting it's 11:00 CST (my time) but I have Amsterdam 6:00PM (18:00), London 5:00 (17:00), and New York 12:00 noon on my display.

FireFTP: An FTP client. Quick and easy, you can grab or upload a file quickly from any site in your saves.

These are but a small handful of the hundreds of files available for FF. IE offers what??? Wink

Just me 2 cents...:D
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website Photo Gallery
Hangman
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Nov 19, 2004
Posts: 449

PostPosted: Fri Dec 09, 2005 8:06 pm
Post subject: Re: The browser WAR continues, who's leading the pack?

I've been playing with the new Netscape browser some lately and I like it alot..it has the tabbed browsing that firefox has and alot of other things..so far I ahven't run across any site that has not displayed right...I do like that tab browsing, usually I'll have 3 or 4 IE windows open at one time so that really is a good feature...maybe the new IE will have it?
Back to top
View user's profile Photo Gallery
Shadow_Bshwackr
Janitor

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 21, 2005
Posts: 7019
Location: Central Illinois, USA
PostPosted: Fri Dec 09, 2005 8:13 pm
Post subject: Re: The browser WAR continues, who's leading the pack?

The new IE does have it, but it's not as user friendly as FF. Of course, it could be I'm used to FF and not a 'new way' I suppose..lol

I haven't tried the new Netscape yet... Wink
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website Photo Gallery
XcalibeR
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Mar 11, 2005
Posts: 358

PostPosted: Sat Dec 10, 2005 5:09 am
Post subject: Re: The browser WAR continues, who's leading the pack?

Has anyone tried the Opera? Their new launch was supposed to be really good.

_________________


[TSF]Lt. Col. XcalibeR{5thF}
PG_Raptor
Back to top
View user's profile Photo Gallery
RCAF_MadDog
Janitor

Offline Offline
Joined: Nov 13, 2004
Posts: 849

PostPosted: Sat Dec 10, 2005 6:41 am
Post subject: Re: The browser WAR continues, who's leading the pack?

Im using Firefox 1.0.7 and I also have installed Firefox 1.5 and im in no hurry to switch from Firefox. I very seldom ever use IE anymore and i dont use Outlook at all anymore I use Thunderbird instead.

For now Firefox does everything I need to do and if it dont do it neither do I lol Im not planning on going up to the new windows or the new IE for that matter.

For now i'm quite happy with Firefox and will stay there until it becomes unsafe or something better comes along.
Back to top
View user's profile Photo Gallery
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic    Revive this topic    Printer Friendly Page    Forum Index ›  Software
Page 1 of 2
All times are GMT - 6 Hours
Go to page 1, 2  Next

Archive Revive
Username:
This is an archived topic - your reply will not be appended here.
Instead, a new topic will be generated in the active forum.
The new topic will provide a reference link to this archived topic.