±Recent Visitors

Recent Visitors to Com-Central!

±User Info-big


Welcome Anonymous

Nickname
Password

Membership:
Latest: HighestAce
New Today: 0
New Yesterday: 0
Overall: 6648

People Online:
Members: 0
Visitors: 757
Total: 757
Who Is Where:
 Visitors:
01: Photo Gallery
02: Home
03: Home
04: Home
05: Home
06: Home
07: Home
08: Home
09: Home
10: Home
11: Home
12: Home
13: Home
14: Home
15: Home
16: Home
17: Home
18: Home
19: Home
20: Home
21: Home
22: Home
23: Home
24: Home
25: Home
26: Home
27: Home
28: Home
29: Home
30: Home
31: Home
32: Home
33: Home
34: Home
35: Home
36: Home
37: Home
38: Home
39: Home
40: Home
41: Home
42: Home
43: Home
44: Home
45: Home
46: Home
47: Home
48: Home
49: Home
50: Home
51: Home
52: Home
53: Home
54: Home
55: Home
56: Home
57: Home
58: Home
59: Home
60: Home
61: Home
62: Home
63: Home
64: Home
65: Home
66: Home
67: Home
68: Home
69: Home
70: Home
71: Home
72: Photo Gallery
73: Home
74: Home
75: Home
76: Home
77: Home
78: Home
79: Home
80: Home
81: Home
82: Community Forums
83: Home
84: Home
85: Home
86: Home
87: Home
88: Home
89: Home
90: Home
91: Home
92: Home
93: Home
94: Home
95: Home
96: Home
97: Home
98: Home
99: Home
100: Home
101: Home
102: Home
103: Home
104: Home
105: Home
106: Home
107: Home
108: Home
109: Home
110: Home
111: Home
112: Home
113: Home
114: Home
115: Home
116: Home
117: Home
118: Home
119: Home
120: Home
121: Home
122: Home
123: Home
124: Home
125: Home
126: Home
127: Home
128: Home
129: Home
130: Home
131: Home
132: Home
133: Home
134: Home
135: Home
136: Home
137: Home
138: Community Forums
139: Community Forums
140: Community Forums
141: Community Forums
142: Downloads
143: Community Forums
144: Community Forums
145: Community Forums
146: Community Forums
147: Community Forums
148: Community Forums
149: Community Forums
150: Community Forums
151: Community Forums
152: Member Screenshots
153: Community Forums
154: Photo Gallery
155: Member Screenshots
156: Community Forums
157: Downloads
158: Community Forums
159: Community Forums
160: Home
161: Home
162: Community Forums
163: Community Forums
164: Home
165: Downloads
166: Home
167: Downloads
168: Member Screenshots
169: Member Screenshots
170: Community Forums
171: Community Forums
172: Home
173: Community Forums
174: Home
175: Home
176: Home
177: Photo Gallery
178: Community Forums
179: Community Forums
180: Community Forums
181: Photo Gallery
182: Statistics
183: Home
184: Photo Gallery
185: Home
186: Photo Gallery
187: Member Screenshots
188: Home
189: Downloads
190: Community Forums
191: Community Forums
192: Photo Gallery
193: Statistics
194: Home
195: Home
196: Home
197: Community Forums
198: Home
199: Community Forums
200: News
201: Your Account
202: Member Screenshots
203: Home
204: Community Forums
205: Your Account
206: Community Forums
207: News Archive
208: Community Forums
209: Community Forums
210: Home
211: Photo Gallery
212: Photo Gallery
213: Community Forums
214: Community Forums
215: News Archive
216: Photo Gallery
217: Community Forums
218: Community Forums
219: Home
220: Community Forums
221: Home
222: Community Forums
223: Community Forums
224: Downloads
225: Community Forums
226: Community Forums
227: Community Forums
228: News
229: Member Screenshots
230: Photo Gallery
231: Home
232: Home
233: Photo Gallery
234: Photo Gallery
235: Community Forums
236: Photo Gallery
237: Home
238: Community Forums
239: Community Forums
240: Your Account
241: Home
242: Community Forums
243: Home
244: Photo Gallery
245: Community Forums
246: News
247: News Archive
248: Home
249: Your Account
250: Community Forums
251: Photo Gallery
252: Home
253: Member Screenshots
254: Community Forums
255: Photo Gallery
256: Home
257: Community Forums
258: Home
259: Photo Gallery
260: Downloads
261: Community Forums
262: Community Forums
263: Statistics
264: Community Forums
265: Home
266: Community Forums
267: Community Forums
268: Community Forums
269: Community Forums
270: Community Forums
271: Home
272: Downloads
273: Community Forums
274: Home
275: Photo Gallery
276: Home
277: Photo Gallery
278: Community Forums
279: Community Forums
280: Community Forums
281: Home
282: Home
283: Home
284: Home
285: Home
286: Home
287: Home
288: Home
289: Home
290: Community Forums
291: Home
292: Home
293: Home
294: Home
295: Home
296: Downloads
297: Home
298: Home
299: Home
300: Home
301: Home
302: Home
303: Home
304: Home
305: Home
306: Home
307: Home
308: Home
309: Home
310: Home
311: Home
312: Home
313: Home
314: Home
315: Community Forums
316: Home
317: Home
318: Home
319: Home
320: Community Forums
321: Home
322: Home
323: Home
324: Home
325: Home
326: Home
327: Home
328: Home
329: Home
330: Home
331: Home
332: Home
333: Home
334: Home
335: Home
336: Home
337: Home
338: Home
339: Home
340: Home
341: Home
342: Home
343: Home
344: Home
345: Home
346: Home
347: Home
348: Home
349: Home
350: Community Forums
351: Home
352: Home
353: Photo Gallery
354: Home
355: Community Forums
356: Home
357: Community Forums
358: Home
359: Home
360: Photo Gallery
361: Home
362: Community Forums
363: Home
364: Home
365: Downloads
366: Community Forums
367: Member Screenshots
368: Home
369: Home
370: Home
371: Home
372: Downloads
373: Home
374: Home
375: Home
376: Home
377: Home
378: Home
379: Home
380: Home
381: Home
382: Community Forums
383: Home
384: Home
385: Home
386: Home
387: Home
388: Home
389: Home
390: Home
391: Home
392: Community Forums
393: Home
394: Home
395: Home
396: Home
397: Home
398: Home
399: Home
400: Home
401: Home
402: Home
403: Home
404: Community Forums
405: Home
406: Home
407: Home
408: Home
409: Home
410: Home
411: Home
412: Home
413: Home
414: Home
415: Member Screenshots
416: Home
417: Photo Gallery
418: Community Forums
419: Home
420: Member Screenshots
421: Home
422: Community Forums
423: Community Forums
424: Community Forums
425: Photo Gallery
426: Community Forums
427: Photo Gallery
428: Community Forums
429: Downloads
430: Community Forums
431: Member Screenshots
432: Downloads
433: Member Screenshots
434: Community Forums
435: News Archive
436: Community Forums
437: Home
438: Community Forums
439: Member Screenshots
440: Community Forums
441: Community Forums
442: Community Forums
443: Home
444: Community Forums
445: Community Forums
446: Home
447: Community Forums
448: Community Forums
449: Home
450: News Archive
451: Community Forums
452: Home
453: Home
454: Community Forums
455: Home
456: Statistics
457: Community Forums
458: Member Screenshots
459: Community Forums
460: Member Screenshots
461: Community Forums
462: Downloads
463: Community Forums
464: Photo Gallery
465: Home
466: Home
467: Home
468: Home
469: Home
470: News Archive
471: Home
472: Member Screenshots
473: Community Forums
474: Home
475: Home
476: Community Forums
477: Home
478: Home
479: Home
480: Home
481: Home
482: Home
483: Home
484: Home
485: Home
486: Member Screenshots
487: Home
488: Home
489: Home
490: Home
491: Home
492: Home
493: Home
494: Home
495: Home
496: Home
497: Community Forums
498: Home
499: Home
500: Home
501: Community Forums
502: Member Screenshots
503: Member Screenshots
504: Community Forums
505: Home
506: Photo Gallery
507: Home
508: Photo Gallery
509: Home
510: Community Forums
511: Home
512: Community Forums
513: Home
514: Community Forums
515: Downloads
516: Community Forums
517: Community Forums
518: Home
519: Home
520: Home
521: Home
522: Community Forums
523: Home
524: Community Forums
525: Community Forums
526: Community Forums
527: Community Forums
528: Community Forums
529: Community Forums
530: Home
531: Home
532: Home
533: Community Forums
534: Community Forums
535: Home
536: Home
537: Community Forums
538: Community Forums
539: Community Forums
540: Community Forums
541: Home
542: Home
543: Home
544: Home
545: Community Forums
546: Home
547: Community Forums
548: News Archive
549: Community Forums
550: Community Forums
551: Home
552: Community Forums
553: Downloads
554: Home
555: Home
556: Member Screenshots
557: Community Forums
558: Community Forums
559: Home
560: Community Forums
561: Community Forums
562: Member Screenshots
563: Community Forums
564: Community Forums
565: Community Forums
566: News Archive
567: Community Forums
568: Home
569: Home
570: Community Forums
571: Community Forums
572: Photo Gallery
573: Home
574: Home
575: News Archive
576: Home
577: Home
578: Home
579: Community Forums
580: Downloads
581: Contact
582: Home
583: Home
584: Community Forums
585: Community Forums
586: Home
587: Home
588: Home
589: Member Screenshots
590: Community Forums
591: Home
592: Home
593: Community Forums
594: Home
595: Home
596: Member Screenshots
597: Home
598: Member Screenshots
599: Photo Gallery
600: Community Forums
601: Community Forums
602: Home
603: Community Forums
604: Home
605: Home
606: Home
607: Community Forums
608: Member Screenshots
609: Community Forums
610: Home
611: Member Screenshots
612: Community Forums
613: Member Screenshots
614: Community Forums
615: Community Forums
616: Member Screenshots
617: Community Forums
618: Home
619: Home
620: Community Forums
621: Member Screenshots
622: Home
623: Home
624: News
625: News Archive
626: Downloads
627: Community Forums
628: Community Forums
629: Community Forums
630: Photo Gallery
631: Community Forums
632: Member Screenshots
633: Home
634: Community Forums
635: Community Forums
636: Home
637: Photo Gallery
638: News Archive
639: Member Screenshots
640: Photo Gallery
641: News Archive
642: Community Forums
643: Home
644: Community Forums
645: Community Forums
646: Community Forums
647: Photo Gallery
648: Photo Gallery
649: Photo Gallery
650: Community Forums
651: Community Forums
652: Community Forums
653: Community Forums
654: Downloads
655: Community Forums
656: Community Forums
657: Home
658: Home
659: Community Forums
660: Home
661: Community Forums
662: Your Account
663: News Archive
664: Home
665: Home
666: Community Forums
667: Community Forums
668: Community Forums
669: Community Forums
670: Community Forums
671: Community Forums
672: Home
673: Home
674: Community Forums
675: Community Forums
676: Community Forums
677: Community Forums
678: Home
679: Community Forums
680: Home
681: Member Screenshots
682: Community Forums
683: Community Forums
684: Member Screenshots
685: Downloads
686: Home
687: Home
688: Downloads
689: Home
690: Member Screenshots
691: Photo Gallery
692: Home
693: Community Forums
694: Community Forums
695: Home
696: Community Forums
697: Community Forums
698: Photo Gallery
699: Home
700: Home
701: Community Forums
702: Community Forums
703: Statistics
704: Member Screenshots
705: Photo Gallery
706: News
707: Community Forums
708: Community Forums
709: Member Screenshots
710: Home
711: Community Forums
712: Community Forums
713: Community Forums
714: Photo Gallery
715: Downloads
716: Member Screenshots
717: Downloads
718: Community Forums
719: News
720: Home
721: Member Screenshots
722: Member Screenshots
723: Home
724: Home
725: Photo Gallery
726: Downloads
727: Photo Gallery
728: Photo Gallery
729: Home
730: Home
731: Community Forums
732: Community Forums
733: Community Forums
734: News Archive
735: Community Forums
736: Home
737: Downloads
738: Community Forums
739: Community Forums
740: Home
741: Photo Gallery
742: Photo Gallery
743: Home
744: Community Forums
745: Member Screenshots
746: Home
747: Home
748: News Archive
749: Member Screenshots
750: Community Forums
751: Home
752: News Archive
753: Home
754: Home
755: Downloads
756: Photo Gallery
757: Community Forums

Staff Online:

No staff members are online!
VN ace gets splashed..... :: Archived
A general meeting place for all pilots!
Go to page 1, 2  Next
Post new topic    Revive this topic    Printer Friendly Page     Forum Index ›  Officer's Club

Topic Archived View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
JG300-Ascout
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 05, 2005
Posts: 6257
Location: Cyberspace
PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 2:06 pm
Post subject: VN ace gets splashed.....

Randy Cunningham (congressmen for my district) pleads guilty to a host of conspiracy and fraud charges, acknowledges accepting bribes for official duties.

Someone at work said they thought he'd always been a "straight shooter"....well, not always, it seems.

I don't think he'll be getting the Martha Stewart deal, neither.

Good riddance.

_________________
"All facts go to clearly prove that Shades is a thrice-cursed traitor & mentally deranged person steeped in inveterate enmity toward mankind"
Back to top
View user's profile Photo Gallery
JG300-Stoopy
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 05, 2005
Posts: 5840
Location: Group W bench
PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 2:28 pm
Post subject: Re: VN ace gets splashed.....

WHAT?!?!??!!!!!!!

You have GOT to be kidding me!!!!!! Seriously?????

I have his book. Read it several times. I admired this guy as a great pilot and scholar of dogfighting history. Truly. I mean he spent his time reading suposedly outdated books like "Dicta Boelke" and proved the old rules are still as viable as ever.

I really didn't even know he was involved in politics......I find this just, well, just unbelievably sad and pathetic. I just can't quite process this information.

I can see his face right now from some of his interviews. Not only was he the only other ace of the Vietnam war, he was the only NAVAL aviator ace, and one of his dogfights (the most dramatic one I believe) ended with half a wing of his F-4 being blown off by a SAM, and both he and his RIO Willie Driscoll (have that name memorized too) decided to ride it out so they could get out of enemy territory, with the plane on fire, and in a constant uncontrollable roll, while Cunningham applied synchronized forward and back elevator to keep the plane on a straight trajectory to the coast for like 20 miles or more.....whereupon they barely managed to eject in time before their flaming Phantom blew up, and they hit the water just off the beach. Not sure but I think the NVA even had a boat on the way towards them when they got picked up.

This is the guy invovled in politics and graft now huh?

What a frikkin' day I swear!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!......

Wonder what Sen. McCain has to say about this.

_________________
"Once your reputation is ruined, you can live quite freely."
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website Photo Gallery
JG300-Ascout
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 05, 2005
Posts: 6257
Location: Cyberspace
PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 2:38 pm
Post subject: Re: VN ace gets splashed.....

He'd been under investigation for months, FBI raided his home (the current one...not the one he sold to a defense contractor for about a million and a half dollars that resold for HALF that!)

He was deep in bed with a primary defense contracter, provided tangible favors for his congressional influence, and accepted bribes (and said as much, in a tearful guilty plea today).

It's hard to imagine how such an accomplished vet and pilot could become so totally corrupted...which he definitely was, by his own admission. He's trying to duck jail time, but I don't see how that's gonna' be possible given that he was an elected official and pled to several federal felony charges.

_________________
"All facts go to clearly prove that Shades is a thrice-cursed traitor & mentally deranged person steeped in inveterate enmity toward mankind"
Back to top
View user's profile Photo Gallery
Guest






PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 2:47 pm
Post subject: Re: VN ace gets splashed.....

I remember now, hearing about a story regarding a house sold by a gov't official under questionable circumstances, but didn't put the name to it before. Hmmm.

Wonder what defense contractor it was? Half-joking here but I wonder if it was McDonnell-Douglas (they even still around as such?). I mean, it's not hard to imagine some kind of odd misplaced loyalty to the company that built a plane that saved his @ss and made his career.

Speaking of which he ducked out of jail time in the Hanoi Hilton by sheer luck and skill anyway, so watever jail time he has coming isn't as bad as what some of his fellow pilots, like the aforementioned Sen McCain, had to go through. It may not be the Martha Stewart deal but I doubt it'll be hard time making little rocks out of big rocks either. It'll be some Tennis Prison out there somewhere probably....

Absolutely too damn bad he didn't appreciate what he had to begin with.
Back to top
Guest






PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 2:49 pm
Post subject: Re: VN ace gets splashed.....

- JG300-Ascout
He'd been under investigation for months, FBI raided his home (the current one...not the one he sold to a defense contractor for about a million and a half dollars that resold for HALF that!)

He was deep in bed with a primary defense contracter, provided tangible favors for his congressional influence, and accepted bribes (and said as much, in a tearful guilty plea today).

It's hard to imagine how such an accomplished vet and pilot could become so totally corrupted...which he definitely was, by his own admission. He's trying to duck jail time, but I don't see how that's gonna' be possible given that he was an elected official and pled to several federal felony charges.


Well It smarts when it's a Vet, but politicians are politicians first and it's all about who's greased palm is on.................................well since this isn't Kitty's bar.....................you know.
Back to top
JG300-fr8ycat
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Mar 13, 2005
Posts: 1528
Location: Los Angeles
PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 2:51 pm
Post subject: Re: VN ace gets splashed.....

OOPPSSS, that's me. The second Guest, LOL
Back to top
View user's profile MSN Messenger Photo Gallery
JG300-Ascout
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 05, 2005
Posts: 6257
Location: Cyberspace
PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 2:55 pm
Post subject: Re: VN ace gets splashed.....

- Anonymous
I remember now, hearing about a story regarding a house sold by a gov't official under questionable circumstances, but didn't put the name to it before. Hmmm.

Wonder what defense contractor it was? Half-joking here but I wonder if it was McDonnell-Douglas (they even still around as such?). I mean, it's not hard to imagine some kind of odd misplaced loyalty to the company that built a plane that saved his @ss and made his career.

Speaking of which he ducked out of jail time in the Hanoi Hilton by sheer luck and skill anyway, so watever jail time he has coming isn't as bad as what some of his fellow pilots, like the aforementioned Sen McCain, had to go through. It may not be the Martha Stewart deal but I doubt it'll be hard time making little rocks out of big rocks either. It'll be some Tennis Prison out there somewhere probably....

Absolutely too damn bad he didn't appreciate what he had to begin with.


Here's the story:
www.foxnews.com/story/...85,00.html

The main contractor (there was more than one) was MZM. Just go on Foxnews, or CNN. or MSN for the story. It muddled along on simmer until this summer when the San Diego paper did an in-depth story on it. He was neck deep in graft of the most transparent kind. Lived on a yacht in Chesapeke Bay virtually rent free, accepted bribes, lied big time on taxes, got favored loans, and sold a house DIRECT to a contractor for twice it's actual value. This has been a much followed story locally.

Oh, he of course resigned his U.S. HOR seat concurrent with his guilty plea.

Cunningham Pleads Guilty in House Sale Probe
Monday, November 28, 2005

PHOTOS VIDEO

Click image to enlarge
STORIES
•Cunningham Gets to Set Up Legal Defense Fund•Feds May Seize California Lawmaker's Home•Cunningham Falls to Typical Enticements•Cunningham Won't Seek Re-Election•Court: Convict's Firm Aided Rep. Cunningham•Cunningham Web Site Down•FBI Searches Calif. Congressman's Home•Grand Jury Wants Papers on Cunningham Real Estate Deal•Calif. Pol: Home Sale Was 'Poor Judgment'•Feds Probe Calif. Pol Over Real Estate Deal
SAN DIEGO � Rep. Randy "Duke" Cunningham resigned from Congress Monday after pleading guilty in a San Diego federal court to accepting bribes and violating tax laws in the sale of his home two years ago to a defense contractor.

Cunningham entered pleas in U.S. District Court to charges of conspiracy to commit mail fraud and wire fraud and tax evasion for underreporting his income in 2004. He answered, "Yes, Your Honor" when asked by U.S. District Judge Larry Burns if he had accepted cash in exchange for his performance of official duties.

Click here to read Rep. Cunningham's plea (pdf)

In a tearful apology, the 63-year-old Republican lawmaker said because he was "not strong enough," he disgraced his family and his congressional seat.

"I will forfeit my freedom, my reputation, all my worldly possessions and most importantly the trust of my friends and family," Cunningham said in a brief statement in which he announced that he will continue to cooperate with the government's ongoing investigation.

"In my life, I have known great joy and great sorrow and now I know great shame. I can't undo what I've done but I can atone. And now ... I enter the twilight of my life. I intend to use the remaining time that God grants me to make amends and I will," he said.



After the hearing, Cunningham was taken away for fingerprinting. He will be released on his own recognizance until a Feb. 27 sentencing hearing. He could receive a maximum sentence of 10 years in prison. The disgraced congressman also agreed to forfeit to the government his Rancho Santa Fe home, more than $1.8 million in cash and antiques and rugs.

House Ethics rules say that any lawmaker convicted of a felony no longer should vote or participate in committee work. Under Republican caucus rules, Cunningham also would lose his chairmanship of the House Intelligence subcommittee on terrorism and human intelligence.

In announcing the plea, prosecutors in San Diego said over four years, Cunningham accepted bribes worth $2.4 million in return for special treatment and government defense contracts worth tens of millions of dollars.

It is "clear from the facts that this was a crime of magnificent and extraordinary audacity," said U.S. Attorney Carol Lam.

The case started earlier this year when Cunningham and his wife, Nancy, were accused of using the proceeds from the $1,675,000 sale of his home in Del Mar home to buy a $2.55 million mansion in ritzy Rancho Santa Fe. Cunningham then had the capital gains tax on the property paid by his conspirators.

Though no others were named, in prior reporting, defense contractor Mitchell Wade was said to have bought the Del Mar, and then sold it nearly a year later for a loss of $700,000.

Lam said Cunningham also was given money for a yacht, a party for his daughter's graduation, rugs, antiques, furniture and a Rolls Royce as well as travel expenses for his wife and a payment of more than $1 million to pay the mortgage in the Rancho Sante Fe home.

At the same time Cunningham was getting the cash, he reported $121,079 in income on his 2004 IRS return. He claimed he was due a refund $8,504. The real amount earned and was more than $1.2 million, say prosecutors and Cunningham owed $385,077 in taxes.

Cunningham, an eight-term congressman, announced in July that he wouldn't seek re-election next year. The former Vietnam War flying ace is known on Capitol Hill for his interest in defense issues and his occasional temperamental outbursts.

He drew little notice outside his San Diego-area district before the San Diego Union-Tribune reported last June that he'd sold the home to Wade.

In addition to buying Cunningham's home at an inflated price, Wade let him live rent-free on his yacht, the Duke Stir, at the Capital Yacht Club. His firm, MZM Inc., donated generously to Cunningham's campaigns. Prosecutors did not specify if those allegations were part of Cunningham's guilty pleas.

Around the same time, MZM was winning valuable defense contracts. Cunningham sits on the House Appropriations subcommittee that controls defense dollars. In 2004 the little-known company based in Washington, D.C., tripled its revenue and nearly quadrupled its staff, according to information posted on the company Web site before Wade stepped down as president and the company was sold to a private equity firm.

An associate of Wade, Brent Wilkes, president of a Poway company called ADCS Inc., also gave Cunningham campaign cash and favors. Wilkes reportedly flew Cunningham in a corporate jet to go hunting in Idaho and golfing in Hawaii, and a charitable foundation Wilkes started spent $36,000 hosting a black tie "Tribute to Heroes" gala in 2002 that feted Cunningham with a trophy naming him a hero.

ADCS, which specializes into turning paper records into digital files, has received tens of millions in Defense Department contracts since the late 1990s. In some years, lawmakers on Cunningham's spending panel added the money themselves, even scolding the Pentagon for not requesting it in the first place.

Unlike Wade and Wilkes, the third man federal investigators focused on, Thomas Kontogiannis, apparently wasn't in the defense business. Like them he had a mutually beneficial relationship with Cunningham.

Cunningham wrote to prosecutors in 2000 on behalf of Kontogiannis, a New York developer then under investigation in a bribery and kickback scheme involving school computer contracts. Two years later, Cunningham made $400,000 selling his 65-foot flat-bottom riverboat to Kontogiannis.

Also, a company run by Kontogiannis' nephew and daughter helped Cunningham finance a condominium in Alexandria, Va., and his house in Rancho Santa Fe.

Kontogiannis ultimately pleaded guilty to fraud charges. He told the San Diego Union-Tribune that Cunningham gave him advice on attorneys to contact to explore getting a presidential pardon.

_________________
"All facts go to clearly prove that Shades is a thrice-cursed traitor & mentally deranged person steeped in inveterate enmity toward mankind"


Last edited by JG300-Ascout on Mon Nov 28, 2005 2:59 pm; edited 2 times in total
Back to top
View user's profile Photo Gallery
JG300-Stoopy
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 05, 2005
Posts: 5840
Location: Group W bench
PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 2:58 pm
Post subject: Re: VN ace gets splashed.....

OOps, that was me (who else!).

And you mean the man actually cried???

Sorry but being ashamed is one thing....remorse can be shown with some backbone and the determination that you'll make proper restitution and accept the appropriate, expected discipline for your misdeeds, without throwing tears. Nothing wrong with crying, I mean, for a tremendous loss beyond your control, but over confessing an intentional act of misconduct? Sorry, I think it's just out of place, he neds to friggin' buck up and have some strength over how he'll handle himself from now on. Crying just seems to suggest....I don't know.....further lack of integrity somehow, you know?

This just became even more dissapointing.

I know this is a Vet and it's not as much my place to say some of this as it is yours and others.....but this just sounds completely out of character from someone with his background.

_________________
"Once your reputation is ruined, you can live quite freely."
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website Photo Gallery
JG300-Stoopy
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 05, 2005
Posts: 5840
Location: Group W bench
PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 3:05 pm
Post subject: Re: VN ace gets splashed.....

- Anonymous
.... but politicians are politicians first and it's all about who's greased palm is on.................................well since this isn't Kitty's bar.....................you know.


Well, like P.J. O'Rourke said......politicians are just people who can't work real jobs like everyone else.

After reading his allocution I guess he did stand up straight at the end (or tried to) and address his coming atonement, so I take back what I said about the crying I guess.

Its still just a shock. Go frikkin' figure!

_________________
"Once your reputation is ruined, you can live quite freely."
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website Photo Gallery
JG300-Stoopy
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 05, 2005
Posts: 5840
Location: Group W bench
PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 3:11 pm
Post subject: Re: VN ace gets splashed.....

He will be released on his own recognizance until a Feb. 27 sentencing hearing. He could receive a maximum sentence of 10 years in prison.


See? I told ya! Let's release someone capable of leaving the country at Mach 2+ on their own recognizance for three months. Yeah he'll come back and make good on the 1.8 Mil.....no 'flight risk' there...

Tennis Prison for sure for this guy.

_________________
"Once your reputation is ruined, you can live quite freely."
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website Photo Gallery
JG300-Ascout
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 05, 2005
Posts: 6257
Location: Cyberspace
PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 3:46 pm
Post subject: Re: VN ace gets splashed.....

- JG300-Stoopy
He will be released on his own recognizance until a Feb. 27 sentencing hearing. He could receive a maximum sentence of 10 years in prison.


See? I told ya! Let's release someone capable of leaving the country at Mach 2+ on their own recognizance for three months. Yeah he'll come back and make good on the 1.8 Mil.....no 'flight risk' there...

Tennis Prison for sure for this guy.



"...it was about then that ol' Boss Hawg caught up with one o' them Duke boys and throwed him in the hoosegow."

_________________
"All facts go to clearly prove that Shades is a thrice-cursed traitor & mentally deranged person steeped in inveterate enmity toward mankind"
Back to top
View user's profile Photo Gallery
JG300-Stoopy
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 05, 2005
Posts: 5840
Location: Group W bench
PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 4:07 pm
Post subject: Re: VN ace gets splashed.....

- JG300-Ascout

"...it was about then that ol' Boss Hawg caught up with one o' them Duke boys and throwed him in the hoosegow."


Yeah, and you better keep an eye on things over there at Miramar or one of those F-18's is probably gonna be takin' off and jumpin' the border like the General Lee... Wink

_________________
"Once your reputation is ruined, you can live quite freely."
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website Photo Gallery
JG300-Ascout
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 05, 2005
Posts: 6257
Location: Cyberspace
PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 4:08 pm
Post subject: Re: VN ace gets splashed.....

- JG300-Stoopy
- JG300-Ascout

"...it was about then that ol' Boss Hawg caught up with one o' them Duke boys and throwed him in the hoosegow."


Yeah, and you better keep an eye on things over there at Miramar or one of those F-18's is probably gonna be takin' off and jumpin' the border like the General Lee... Wink


Just gotta' listen for the horn playing "Dixie"!

_________________
"All facts go to clearly prove that Shades is a thrice-cursed traitor & mentally deranged person steeped in inveterate enmity toward mankind"
Back to top
View user's profile Photo Gallery
JG300-Stoopy
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 05, 2005
Posts: 5840
Location: Group W bench
PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 4:13 pm
Post subject: Re: VN ace gets splashed.....

Allright, now I can't get the images of Daisy out of my mind....I hope you're happy! I know I sure am......

_________________
"Once your reputation is ruined, you can live quite freely."
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website Photo Gallery
JG300-Ascout
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 05, 2005
Posts: 6257
Location: Cyberspace
PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 4:30 pm
Post subject: Re: VN ace gets splashed.....

- JG300-Stoopy
Allright, now I can't get the images of Daisy out of my mind....I hope you're happy! I know I sure am......


Just "Google" for pictures of Catherine Bach today....you'll soon get over it.

_________________
"All facts go to clearly prove that Shades is a thrice-cursed traitor & mentally deranged person steeped in inveterate enmity toward mankind"
Back to top
View user's profile Photo Gallery
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic    Revive this topic    Printer Friendly Page    Forum Index ›  Officer's Club
Page 1 of 2
All times are GMT - 6 Hours
Go to page 1, 2  Next

Archive Revive
Username:
This is an archived topic - your reply will not be appended here.
Instead, a new topic will be generated in the active forum.
The new topic will provide a reference link to this archived topic.