±Recent Visitors

Recent Visitors to Com-Central!

±User Info-big


Welcome Anonymous

Nickname
Password

Membership:
Latest: HighestAce
New Today: 0
New Yesterday: 0
Overall: 6648

People Online:
Members: 0
Visitors: 768
Total: 768
Who Is Where:
 Visitors:
01: Downloads
02: Community Forums
03: Home
04: Community Forums
05: Community Forums
06: Member Screenshots
07: Home
08: Member Screenshots
09: Community Forums
10: Downloads
11: Photo Gallery
12: Photo Gallery
13: News
14: News Archive
15: Home
16: Community Forums
17: Community Forums
18: Home
19: Community Forums
20: Downloads
21: Community Forums
22: Community Forums
23: Community Forums
24: Home
25: Community Forums
26: Community Forums
27: News Archive
28: Community Forums
29: Community Forums
30: Member Screenshots
31: Photo Gallery
32: Photo Gallery
33: Photo Gallery
34: Home
35: Home
36: Community Forums
37: Photo Gallery
38: Home
39: Community Forums
40: Community Forums
41: Community Forums
42: Community Forums
43: Member Screenshots
44: Photo Gallery
45: Photo Gallery
46: Home
47: Community Forums
48: News Archive
49: Member Screenshots
50: Statistics
51: Home
52: News Archive
53: Community Forums
54: Community Forums
55: Community Forums
56: Photo Gallery
57: Community Forums
58: Home
59: Community Forums
60: Photo Gallery
61: Community Forums
62: Photo Gallery
63: Community Forums
64: Member Screenshots
65: Photo Gallery
66: Home
67: Member Screenshots
68: Community Forums
69: Community Forums
70: Community Forums
71: Photo Gallery
72: Community Forums
73: Photo Gallery
74: Downloads
75: Community Forums
76: News Archive
77: Community Forums
78: Member Screenshots
79: Community Forums
80: Community Forums
81: Community Forums
82: Community Forums
83: Community Forums
84: Community Forums
85: Member Screenshots
86: Community Forums
87: Community Forums
88: Photo Gallery
89: Home
90: Community Forums
91: Home
92: Member Screenshots
93: Community Forums
94: Member Screenshots
95: Community Forums
96: Home
97: Photo Gallery
98: Community Forums
99: Community Forums
100: Home
101: Home
102: Community Forums
103: Photo Gallery
104: Photo Gallery
105: Community Forums
106: Home
107: Community Forums
108: Community Forums
109: Community Forums
110: Community Forums
111: Contact
112: Community Forums
113: Community Forums
114: Downloads
115: Community Forums
116: Photo Gallery
117: Community Forums
118: Member Screenshots
119: Community Forums
120: Community Forums
121: Community Forums
122: Downloads
123: Community Forums
124: Statistics
125: Community Forums
126: Member Screenshots
127: Home
128: News
129: Community Forums
130: Home
131: Home
132: Community Forums
133: Downloads
134: Photo Gallery
135: Home
136: Community Forums
137: Photo Gallery
138: News Archive
139: Community Forums
140: Community Forums
141: Community Forums
142: Downloads
143: Home
144: Member Screenshots
145: Member Screenshots
146: Member Screenshots
147: Community Forums
148: Community Forums
149: Member Screenshots
150: Downloads
151: Community Forums
152: Member Screenshots
153: Member Screenshots
154: News Archive
155: Photo Gallery
156: Community Forums
157: Home
158: Member Screenshots
159: Downloads
160: Community Forums
161: Community Forums
162: Photo Gallery
163: Community Forums
164: News Archive
165: Member Screenshots
166: Community Forums
167: Community Forums
168: Community Forums
169: Community Forums
170: Downloads
171: News Archive
172: News Archive
173: Community Forums
174: Community Forums
175: Community Forums
176: Community Forums
177: Photo Gallery
178: Community Forums
179: Community Forums
180: Photo Gallery
181: Community Forums
182: Statistics
183: Downloads
184: Home
185: Community Forums
186: Photo Gallery
187: Community Forums
188: Photo Gallery
189: News Archive
190: News Archive
191: Community Forums
192: Home
193: Member Screenshots
194: News Archive
195: Photo Gallery
196: Home
197: Photo Gallery
198: Home
199: Community Forums
200: Community Forums
201: Community Forums
202: Downloads
203: Community Forums
204: Community Forums
205: Member Screenshots
206: Search
207: Community Forums
208: News Archive
209: Community Forums
210: Community Forums
211: Community Forums
212: Community Forums
213: Community Forums
214: Community Forums
215: Community Forums
216: Community Forums
217: Home
218: Home
219: Community Forums
220: Downloads
221: Member Screenshots
222: Statistics
223: Home
224: Community Forums
225: Community Forums
226: Community Forums
227: Community Forums
228: Community Forums
229: Downloads
230: Member Screenshots
231: News Archive
232: Community Forums
233: Community Forums
234: Photo Gallery
235: Downloads
236: Community Forums
237: Community Forums
238: Community Forums
239: Community Forums
240: Community Forums
241: Community Forums
242: News Archive
243: News Archive
244: Community Forums
245: Photo Gallery
246: Community Forums
247: Community Forums
248: Home
249: Community Forums
250: News
251: Community Forums
252: Photo Gallery
253: Community Forums
254: Member Screenshots
255: Home
256: Community Forums
257: Downloads
258: Community Forums
259: News
260: Member Screenshots
261: Community Forums
262: Community Forums
263: Community Forums
264: Community Forums
265: Member Screenshots
266: Member Screenshots
267: Photo Gallery
268: Community Forums
269: Community Forums
270: Community Forums
271: Member Screenshots
272: Community Forums
273: Member Screenshots
274: Community Forums
275: Photo Gallery
276: News
277: Community Forums
278: Community Forums
279: Community Forums
280: Community Forums
281: Community Forums
282: Community Forums
283: Community Forums
284: Member Screenshots
285: Community Forums
286: Downloads
287: Home
288: Member Screenshots
289: Community Forums
290: Community Forums
291: News Archive
292: Community Forums
293: Home
294: Community Forums
295: Community Forums
296: Photo Gallery
297: Tell a Friend
298: Member Screenshots
299: Community Forums
300: Downloads
301: Member Screenshots
302: News
303: Your Account
304: Community Forums
305: Member Screenshots
306: Downloads
307: Home
308: Home
309: Community Forums
310: Downloads
311: Community Forums
312: Community Forums
313: Downloads
314: Home
315: Home
316: Photo Gallery
317: Community Forums
318: Community Forums
319: News Archive
320: Photo Gallery
321: Photo Gallery
322: Your Account
323: Community Forums
324: Member Screenshots
325: Home
326: News Archive
327: Downloads
328: Community Forums
329: Community Forums
330: Community Forums
331: Member Screenshots
332: Community Forums
333: Home
334: Downloads
335: Home
336: Community Forums
337: Photo Gallery
338: Downloads
339: Community Forums
340: Community Forums
341: Photo Gallery
342: Community Forums
343: Home
344: Community Forums
345: News
346: Member Screenshots
347: Home
348: Community Forums
349: Community Forums
350: Home
351: Community Forums
352: News Archive
353: Community Forums
354: Photo Gallery
355: Photo Gallery
356: News Archive
357: Community Forums
358: Community Forums
359: Home
360: Downloads
361: Home
362: Community Forums
363: Community Forums
364: Photo Gallery
365: Downloads
366: Home
367: Photo Gallery
368: Home
369: Home
370: Home
371: Home
372: Home
373: Community Forums
374: Community Forums
375: Downloads
376: Photo Gallery
377: Community Forums
378: Community Forums
379: Community Forums
380: Downloads
381: Photo Gallery
382: Home
383: Member Screenshots
384: Home
385: Community Forums
386: Community Forums
387: Community Forums
388: Community Forums
389: Community Forums
390: Downloads
391: Community Forums
392: Member Screenshots
393: Photo Gallery
394: Community Forums
395: Community Forums
396: Member Screenshots
397: Downloads
398: Your Account
399: Home
400: News Archive
401: Home
402: Community Forums
403: Home
404: News Archive
405: Community Forums
406: Community Forums
407: Statistics
408: Community Forums
409: Photo Gallery
410: Community Forums
411: Photo Gallery
412: Photo Gallery
413: Home
414: News
415: Home
416: Community Forums
417: News Archive
418: Community Forums
419: Community Forums
420: Community Forums
421: Community Forums
422: Home
423: Downloads
424: Statistics
425: Community Forums
426: Photo Gallery
427: Community Forums
428: Community Forums
429: Community Forums
430: News
431: Community Forums
432: News Archive
433: Community Forums
434: News Archive
435: Community Forums
436: Community Forums
437: Photo Gallery
438: Community Forums
439: Home
440: Photo Gallery
441: Community Forums
442: Community Forums
443: Community Forums
444: Community Forums
445: Community Forums
446: Downloads
447: Community Forums
448: Community Forums
449: Community Forums
450: Community Forums
451: Community Forums
452: Community Forums
453: Home
454: Community Forums
455: Home
456: Home
457: Home
458: Photo Gallery
459: Photo Gallery
460: Home
461: Home
462: Community Forums
463: Home
464: Home
465: Home
466: Community Forums
467: Home
468: Photo Gallery
469: Community Forums
470: Home
471: Home
472: Community Forums
473: Photo Gallery
474: Photo Gallery
475: Community Forums
476: Photo Gallery
477: Community Forums
478: Community Forums
479: Community Forums
480: Home
481: Community Forums
482: Member Screenshots
483: Community Forums
484: News
485: Community Forums
486: News Archive
487: Community Forums
488: Community Forums
489: Community Forums
490: Community Forums
491: Community Forums
492: Downloads
493: Photo Gallery
494: Downloads
495: Home
496: Photo Gallery
497: Downloads
498: Community Forums
499: Downloads
500: Home
501: Community Forums
502: Community Forums
503: Downloads
504: Home
505: Community Forums
506: Community Forums
507: Photo Gallery
508: Community Forums
509: Photo Gallery
510: Community Forums
511: Photo Gallery
512: Community Forums
513: Community Forums
514: Community Forums
515: Community Forums
516: Community Forums
517: Supporters
518: Home
519: Member Screenshots
520: Member Screenshots
521: Member Screenshots
522: Community Forums
523: Home
524: Member Screenshots
525: Home
526: Community Forums
527: Community Forums
528: Community Forums
529: News Archive
530: Home
531: Home
532: Photo Gallery
533: Community Forums
534: Community Forums
535: Photo Gallery
536: Community Forums
537: News
538: Home
539: Community Forums
540: Community Forums
541: Community Forums
542: Community Forums
543: Downloads
544: Member Screenshots
545: Community Forums
546: Community Forums
547: Community Forums
548: Member Screenshots
549: News Archive
550: Community Forums
551: Community Forums
552: Community Forums
553: Community Forums
554: Member Screenshots
555: Member Screenshots
556: Member Screenshots
557: Statistics
558: Community Forums
559: Home
560: Photo Gallery
561: Community Forums
562: Community Forums
563: Community Forums
564: Community Forums
565: Photo Gallery
566: Community Forums
567: Photo Gallery
568: Community Forums
569: Community Forums
570: Community Forums
571: Community Forums
572: Community Forums
573: Community Forums
574: Home
575: Home
576: News Archive
577: Community Forums
578: Home
579: Community Forums
580: Community Forums
581: Community Forums
582: News Archive
583: Home
584: Community Forums
585: Home
586: Member Screenshots
587: Member Screenshots
588: Community Forums
589: Community Forums
590: Community Forums
591: Community Forums
592: Community Forums
593: News Archive
594: Community Forums
595: Community Forums
596: Photo Gallery
597: Community Forums
598: Community Forums
599: Community Forums
600: Community Forums
601: Community Forums
602: Community Forums
603: Community Forums
604: Community Forums
605: Community Forums
606: Home
607: Community Forums
608: Home
609: Community Forums
610: News
611: Photo Gallery
612: Community Forums
613: Community Forums
614: Community Forums
615: Community Forums
616: News Archive
617: Community Forums
618: Community Forums
619: Community Forums
620: Member Screenshots
621: Member Screenshots
622: Photo Gallery
623: Community Forums
624: Community Forums
625: Photo Gallery
626: Community Forums
627: Downloads
628: Member Screenshots
629: Community Forums
630: Member Screenshots
631: Photo Gallery
632: News
633: Member Screenshots
634: Photo Gallery
635: Photo Gallery
636: Community Forums
637: Downloads
638: Community Forums
639: Photo Gallery
640: Photo Gallery
641: Community Forums
642: Member Screenshots
643: Community Forums
644: Home
645: Downloads
646: Community Forums
647: Community Forums
648: Community Forums
649: Downloads
650: Community Forums
651: Home
652: Community Forums
653: Member Screenshots
654: Community Forums
655: Member Screenshots
656: News
657: Community Forums
658: Community Forums
659: Home
660: Community Forums
661: Community Forums
662: Community Forums
663: Member Screenshots
664: Community Forums
665: Community Forums
666: Downloads
667: Downloads
668: Search
669: Member Screenshots
670: Community Forums
671: Community Forums
672: Community Forums
673: Photo Gallery
674: Member Screenshots
675: Photo Gallery
676: Community Forums
677: Home
678: Home
679: Photo Gallery
680: Community Forums
681: Community Forums
682: Community Forums
683: Member Screenshots
684: Downloads
685: Member Screenshots
686: Photo Gallery
687: Community Forums
688: News Archive
689: Member Screenshots
690: Home
691: News Archive
692: Home
693: Photo Gallery
694: Community Forums
695: Home
696: Home
697: Community Forums
698: Community Forums
699: Member Screenshots
700: Home
701: Community Forums
702: Community Forums
703: News Archive
704: Community Forums
705: Photo Gallery
706: Community Forums
707: Community Forums
708: Statistics
709: Home
710: Community Forums
711: Community Forums
712: Photo Gallery
713: Photo Gallery
714: Photo Gallery
715: Community Forums
716: Community Forums
717: Downloads
718: Photo Gallery
719: Community Forums
720: Photo Gallery
721: Community Forums
722: Community Forums
723: Community Forums
724: Photo Gallery
725: Community Forums
726: Statistics
727: Community Forums
728: Community Forums
729: Community Forums
730: Community Forums
731: Community Forums
732: Home
733: Photo Gallery
734: Community Forums
735: Downloads
736: Home
737: Community Forums
738: Community Forums
739: Photo Gallery
740: Photo Gallery
741: Tell a Friend
742: Community Forums
743: Home
744: Community Forums
745: Member Screenshots
746: LinkToUs
747: Downloads
748: Photo Gallery
749: Community Forums
750: Community Forums
751: Community Forums
752: Community Forums
753: Community Forums
754: Home
755: Community Forums
756: Community Forums
757: Community Forums
758: Photo Gallery
759: Community Forums
760: Photo Gallery
761: Community Forums
762: Home
763: News
764: Community Forums
765: Community Forums
766: Community Forums
767: Home
768: Community Forums

Staff Online:

No staff members are online!
Vista Service Pack 1 - Do's and dont's :: Archived
This is a forum for Software related items such as OS', Virus notices, cool or free programs, etc. Gaming software should go in the gaming folder pertaining to the current info.
Post new topic    Revive this topic    Printer Friendly Page     Forum Index ›  Software

Topic Archived View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
Shades
Forum Tree-Rat

Offline Offline
Joined: Mar 07, 2005
Posts: 6475
Location: 3rd Branch up, 'Ye Olde Oak', Green Wood.
PostPosted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 6:29 am
Post subject: Vista Service Pack 1 - Do's and dont's

Vista Service Pack 1 is out.
Some areas can get it now, some will get it later.

If you can get it through the Update site it's a 67Mb file.
There is a manual download site and it will eventually come down the "auto-update" route but that file is 468mb and has been causing users more Vista "issues".

I installed the smaller file on Friday and it actually seems to have made my system a little more stable. Hasn't fixed any usability issues I have (CFS1, FFB2, Headphones, etc) but, if you have Vista, it seems to be the way to go.

WARNING Already hearing of some issues with SP1:-

1) Some 64-bit users have had their copy of Vista unregister itself post-SP1 installation, and the registration code no longer works. A Phone call to The Vole will fix this and M$ will give you a new code, should you require one.

2) FS-X has suffered similar registration problems in 64-bit Vista, although the code still seems to work and allows users to re-register.

3) I thought the whole point of this Service Pack was to fix some of the useability issues inherent in Vista. However, on the same page as the download, the mighty Vole posts a warning listing of all the software that SP1 will de-activate.
Most of it is security software.
If you're thinking of installing Vista SP1, ensure it's compatable with the software on your system.

$%^&* Vista!

_________________
Skwerl's place.

Com-Central's cutest, fluffiest, twitchiest, tail.
CPU > Intel i9-9900k (o/c 4.9GHz); COOLING > BeQuiet! Dark Rock Pro 4;
MOBO > ASUS PRIME Z390-A; RAM > 2x32GB Corsair LPX 2666MHz;
GPU > Gigabyte GEFORCE GTX650Ti PCI-e 3.0 2Gb GDDR5;
AUDIO > Creative X-Fi Xtreme Music (plus - Universal Audio UAD2 Quad Custom accelerator);
HDD > 3x1TB+ M.2. SSDs; LCD > DELL - S2419HGF (1920x1080);
PSU > 650W be quiet Straight Power 11 - 80+ Gold;
CASE > BeQuiet! SILENT BASE 601; OS > Windows 11 Home Advanced (64-bit).
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website ICQ Number
Shadow_Bshwackr
Janitor

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 21, 2005
Posts: 7019
Location: Central Illinois, USA
PostPosted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 10:55 am
Post subject: Re: Vista Service Pack 1 - Do's and dont's

Whistles and is still using XP/Linux as a dual boot...
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website Photo Gallery
Shades
Forum Tree-Rat

Offline Offline
Joined: Mar 07, 2005
Posts: 6475
Location: 3rd Branch up, 'Ye Olde Oak', Green Wood.
PostPosted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 12:40 pm
Post subject: Re: Vista Service Pack 1 - Do's and dont's

s.o.b.
Razz

_________________
Skwerl's place.

Com-Central's cutest, fluffiest, twitchiest, tail.
CPU > Intel i9-9900k (o/c 4.9GHz); COOLING > BeQuiet! Dark Rock Pro 4;
MOBO > ASUS PRIME Z390-A; RAM > 2x32GB Corsair LPX 2666MHz;
GPU > Gigabyte GEFORCE GTX650Ti PCI-e 3.0 2Gb GDDR5;
AUDIO > Creative X-Fi Xtreme Music (plus - Universal Audio UAD2 Quad Custom accelerator);
HDD > 3x1TB+ M.2. SSDs; LCD > DELL - S2419HGF (1920x1080);
PSU > 650W be quiet Straight Power 11 - 80+ Gold;
CASE > BeQuiet! SILENT BASE 601; OS > Windows 11 Home Advanced (64-bit).
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website ICQ Number
Shadow_Homfixr
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 05, 2005
Posts: 541
Location: Fort Walton Beach, FL-USA
PostPosted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 10:20 pm
Post subject: Re: Vista Service Pack 1 - Do's and dont's

My new laptop has been it's bag for a month and half now because I despise Vista and will only turn it on when absolutely needed. Maybe someday MS will figure out how to fix their mess up. Just a few probs I have with Vista is....it only talks to my XP when it wants too and that is not very often Evil or Very Mad seems every time I connect it to my network I have go thru the whole network setup again and detect new network connection is on! It was bought for my business that my brother and I started so I gave his account Full control but it will not let him run about half the proggies on it. Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad It will not even let me the Admin do some stuff Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad . It just pisses me off that I was dumb enough to waste good money on it Twisted Evil Evil or Very Mad Twisted Evil Evil or Very Mad Twisted Evil Evil or Very Mad Twisted Evil Evil or Very Mad Twisted Evil Evil or Very Mad ....hmm my fault there. . I will keep an eye on this forum hoping someday I will see an answer to my probs besides a hammer...lol.

_________________
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail MSN Messenger Yahoo Messenger Photo Gallery
Shades
Forum Tree-Rat

Offline Offline
Joined: Mar 07, 2005
Posts: 6475
Location: 3rd Branch up, 'Ye Olde Oak', Green Wood.
PostPosted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 8:08 am
Post subject: Re: Vista Service Pack 1 - Do's and dont's

Ditto.

So far SP1 does seem to have made my system much more stable, but there is still stuff going on in Vista that is simply ridiculous.

I'm pissed that I gave Bill my money based on his boasts of how great Vista was going to be and how much more advanced it was from anything he'd cobbled together before.
Instead of fixing everything he claimed, it broke it, and more.

Every time I boot up, I have to re-configure stuff to how I left it when I looged off.
That's surely not right.
I have drivers that keep disappearing or making others disappear when I re-install them.
I can install, but not run, the only game I've ever enjoyed playing online (CFS).
And can't install the only joystick I like to use in it.
I paid a small fortune for PhotoShop CS, which will install in Vista but won't open.
The manufacturer's recommended retail price of Vista should include the cost of all the software/hardware you have to replace by installing it.

As for figuring out their mess, M$ recently announced that they're bringing forward the release date of the next version of Windows to 2010 (which, going on their form, will mean 2012 and it still won't be ready because of their internal testing policy).
Well whoopy-do, cos by then I should be able to run the software I need on Linux and flip The Vole the bird!
And I shall be encouraging those who ask for my opinion to do the same.

Bill's cost me money.
See how he likes it!

_________________
Skwerl's place.

Com-Central's cutest, fluffiest, twitchiest, tail.
CPU > Intel i9-9900k (o/c 4.9GHz); COOLING > BeQuiet! Dark Rock Pro 4;
MOBO > ASUS PRIME Z390-A; RAM > 2x32GB Corsair LPX 2666MHz;
GPU > Gigabyte GEFORCE GTX650Ti PCI-e 3.0 2Gb GDDR5;
AUDIO > Creative X-Fi Xtreme Music (plus - Universal Audio UAD2 Quad Custom accelerator);
HDD > 3x1TB+ M.2. SSDs; LCD > DELL - S2419HGF (1920x1080);
PSU > 650W be quiet Straight Power 11 - 80+ Gold;
CASE > BeQuiet! SILENT BASE 601; OS > Windows 11 Home Advanced (64-bit).
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website ICQ Number
bsmart
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 23, 2006
Posts: 2523
Location: Central Maryland
PostPosted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 10:20 am
Post subject: Re: Vista Service Pack 1 - Do's and dont's

- Shadow_Bshwackr
Whistles and is still using XP/Linux as a dual boot...


Well I'm not dual bootin' but have Linux on a couple machines and XP on another and have NO plans to install Vista anywhere.

By the way it is possible to buy new machines with XP installed. I know Dell has them if you look at their 'Small Business' site instead of their home customer site. I'm assuming other vendors do the same (I know Dell did it due to complaints by commercial customers who need machines and don't plan to move to Vista because of Apps that don't work on Vista (like NetMeeting)

_________________
Bob Smart ([email protected])
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail
Shadow_Bshwackr
Janitor

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 21, 2005
Posts: 7019
Location: Central Illinois, USA
PostPosted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 10:37 am
Post subject: Re: Vista Service Pack 1 - Do's and dont's

Being involved in IT, the Vista issue comes up more often than it used to as newer machines are purchased. What I've noticed is:

If the person bought a new computer with it came installed with Vista and... IF- they don't game or do anything other than print some docs or surf the net, they probably will accept Vista AND the fact they may need a new printer...lol

However, IF they're like most people here at CC, they feel like like Uncle Bill has taught them how to 'tie their shoes' while he's behind them smiling... Wink

ELSE...

Personally, I use LinuxMint for everything except gaming and a few programs I like that only run on XP. However those few programs are getting ported over or another application similar is being developed.

I don't want anyone to think Linux doesn't have it's own set of problems because it does, but overall, it runs and runs and runs without any major issues... Wink

Shades, did you ever try Audacity? This is cross platform and I'm not sure if it'll do what you need it to do or not. Smile
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website Photo Gallery
Shades
Forum Tree-Rat

Offline Offline
Joined: Mar 07, 2005
Posts: 6475
Location: 3rd Branch up, 'Ye Olde Oak', Green Wood.
PostPosted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 12:42 pm
Post subject: Re: Vista Service Pack 1 - Do's and dont's

Cheers Bushy, I'll have a look at it.
Edit; Had a look Bushster but that's not really what I need. That's more for sound editing, whereas I'm using quite high spec. studio software for composition, controlling synth's and recording. Propellerheads (the manufacturers) have received so many complaints that they're building Linux support into the next release; Then I'm outta here.
Until then; www.myspace.com/redskwirrell.
Cool

bsmart, You can find machines where the seller has been forced (by market demand) to sell it not only with XP, but also Linux. You can even find some of the smaller distributors offering dual-boots with these and Vista.

I would recommend pricing up your own and consider building it yourself though.

BuildYourOwn
You'll find all the help you need here from selecting components, pricing them up, making sure they're compatable, assembling them, right through to sorting out any problems here.
Knock twice and tellem RedSkwirrell sent you - 25% discount on all advice offered (don't worry, it's all free [:D]).
And don't forget there's lots of our own 'experts' here in C-C ready and willing to help.

_________________
Skwerl's place.

Com-Central's cutest, fluffiest, twitchiest, tail.
CPU > Intel i9-9900k (o/c 4.9GHz); COOLING > BeQuiet! Dark Rock Pro 4;
MOBO > ASUS PRIME Z390-A; RAM > 2x32GB Corsair LPX 2666MHz;
GPU > Gigabyte GEFORCE GTX650Ti PCI-e 3.0 2Gb GDDR5;
AUDIO > Creative X-Fi Xtreme Music (plus - Universal Audio UAD2 Quad Custom accelerator);
HDD > 3x1TB+ M.2. SSDs; LCD > DELL - S2419HGF (1920x1080);
PSU > 650W be quiet Straight Power 11 - 80+ Gold;
CASE > BeQuiet! SILENT BASE 601; OS > Windows 11 Home Advanced (64-bit).
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website ICQ Number
Rixster
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Mar 09, 2008
Posts: 190

PostPosted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 1:40 pm
Post subject: Re: Vista Service Pack 1 - Do's and dont's

I hate to say this, but I have a laptop I bought last year with Vista on it and I absolutely love it. Haven't had a single issue with it. It picks up my home network every time I fire it up without fail, even links right to my old HP printer with no problem. It's not a "big" laptop per-say, running a dual-core amd processor ( can't remember what size) and nvidia 6150 integrated video chip. I like it so much I've been considering upgrading my home pc from xp to vista. Every time I get close to doing it though I read posts like this and I think twice. I have no idea why my laptop runs so smoothly compared to wat I read here but I sure like it. The only reason I want to run vista on my gaming pc is I thought you had to run vista to use Dx10, but I'm not sure, can someone clarify? Will Dx10 run on XP?
Back to top
View user's profile
Shades
Forum Tree-Rat

Offline Offline
Joined: Mar 07, 2005
Posts: 6475
Location: 3rd Branch up, 'Ye Olde Oak', Green Wood.
PostPosted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 2:14 pm
Post subject: Re: Vista Service Pack 1 - Do's and dont's

There is a way to run DX10 on XP, I can't remember how (not needed it meself).
But at the moment there is still a performance loss from using DX10 over DX9.
I assume there will be an advantage to it one day, otherwise what's the point?

Vista has it's fans. I don't want to be too one-sided about it and I'll try to remain unbiased (through my own rather obvious frustrations with it). But its still has many detractors and they're the reason M$ is almost dis-owning it and drawing everyone's attention to their next replacement.

It seems that some systems and circumstances love it, others don't. Most of the people I speak to about it are on either side of the fence. They love it, or not. I've only spoken to one guy who loved it even though he was getting loads of problems from using it so I'm declaring him as "on the fence".

Unfortunately, for me, I'm one of the guys who built his system around Vista and it isn't up to snuff. I'm always very happy for the guys who have it working well for them. Just wish I knew what the differences were in our versions of Vista so mine might function as it was supposed to.
I mean I had an inkling there was something wrong when it took around a hundred installs to get Windows anywhere close to being stable. lol

_________________
Skwerl's place.

Com-Central's cutest, fluffiest, twitchiest, tail.
CPU > Intel i9-9900k (o/c 4.9GHz); COOLING > BeQuiet! Dark Rock Pro 4;
MOBO > ASUS PRIME Z390-A; RAM > 2x32GB Corsair LPX 2666MHz;
GPU > Gigabyte GEFORCE GTX650Ti PCI-e 3.0 2Gb GDDR5;
AUDIO > Creative X-Fi Xtreme Music (plus - Universal Audio UAD2 Quad Custom accelerator);
HDD > 3x1TB+ M.2. SSDs; LCD > DELL - S2419HGF (1920x1080);
PSU > 650W be quiet Straight Power 11 - 80+ Gold;
CASE > BeQuiet! SILENT BASE 601; OS > Windows 11 Home Advanced (64-bit).
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website ICQ Number
Uhu_Fledermaus
Aircraft Demolition Expert

Offline Offline
Joined: Nov 28, 2004
Posts: 4369
Location: Blaricum, The Netherlands ~GMT+1
PostPosted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 3:38 pm
Post subject: Re: Vista Service Pack 1 - Do's and dont's

ther is NO way you can run DX10 on XP, that is a nice fairy tale that seems to come up every now and then, plain and simple forget it.

As for the Vista SP1, I really feel for the ones that have Intel dual Processors, seems that M$ stuffed up things BIG TIME this time around.


PCs from Hewlett-Packard, Gateway, Lenovo, and other major computer makers that contain a widely used Intel chipset can't be upgraded to Windows Vista Service Pack 1 if they're running certain drivers.
Microsoft has said that Vista SP1 won't work with "a small number of device drivers." The list, however, includes drivers for an Intel chipset that's found in thousands of PCs and laptops.

The affected chipset is Intel's 945G Express series, which is used in computers from virtually all major system vendors. It's also found on standalone motherboards sold by Asus. The 945G Express chipset driver versions between numbers 7.14.10.1322 and 7.14.10.1403 won't work with Vista SP1, according to Microsoft.

Chipsets provide a connection point for all key subsystems within a PC. The 945G Express chipset includes Intel's GMA 950 graphics core, which also won't work with Vista SP1 if those drivers are used.

Microsoft is urging Vista users to update all of their hardware to the latest drivers before even attempting to install SP1.

The service pack also won't work with computers that use certain, widely-deployed audio drivers from Realtek and certain drivers for security devices manufactured by Symantec. Microsoft has published a full list of drivers that are incompatible with the service pack.
Meanwhile, Microsoft is continuing to receive reports from computer users who say Vista SP1 is wreaking havoc on their systems. A user going by the name "Apolauf" said the upgrade caused the mouse cursor on his tablet PC to disappear. The "right-click circle and the special pen mouse cursor ... are no longer functional" as well, said Apolauf, in a post on the Vista team blog. Bob Rife, a user from Canada, said in an e-mail to InformationWeek that SP1 caused one of his computer's two hard drives to become invisible to Windows Explorer and Acronis Disk Director. Rife said he complained to Microsoft, but has yet to receive a response.

Others reported having no problems. A user named "Zandor" said on the Vista team blog that his company successfully upgraded 614 computers to Vista SP1. "Great job, Windows team," wrote Zandor.

Microsoft made Vista SP1 widely available for the first time on Tuesday. The update includes more than 300 hot fixes designed to improve the operating system's speed, security, and stability.

Source: Guru3d et al

Now, I did NOT post this to bash Vista, I posted this because I want to avoid our users having problems


the joys of Vista ................................. Rolling Eyes

_________________
System: i7 2600K @ 4.7G ~1,345V| Asus P8Z68 deluxe | Corsair Hydro H100 | Mushkin Redline 8G @ 1600MHz CL7 ~1,65V | Gainward GTX580 Phanthom 3Gb | 340.52 WHQL drivers | nVidia Inspector 1.9.7.2 | 1x Vertex 3 120G for OS | 1x Samsung 840 500G for FTX_fsX | 1x Samsung 830 256G | 1x Velociraptor 600G | 3x WD 500G | CM Pro Gold 1000W | CM HAF-X | Logitech G15 Blue edition | G940 Flight System |LG Flatron E2711T 27" | Iiyama ProLite E2409HDS 24" | W7 pro SP1 x64 EN | fsX + Acc + all FTX sceneries + OZx + REX_Essentials_OD + FSGX2010 + FSGW
Back to top
View user's profile ICQ Number MSN Messenger Photo Gallery
Rixster
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Mar 09, 2008
Posts: 190

PostPosted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 3:49 pm
Post subject: Re: Vista Service Pack 1 - Do's and dont's

think I may try a dual-boot system just to see how it goes first. I've got a friend gaming with Vista & DX10 and he says it's really amazing, he can definitely tell a difference. I've never set-up a dual boot system but it can't be that hard can it?
Back to top
View user's profile
Uhu_Fledermaus
Aircraft Demolition Expert

Offline Offline
Joined: Nov 28, 2004
Posts: 4369
Location: Blaricum, The Netherlands ~GMT+1
PostPosted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 3:51 pm
Post subject: Re: Vista Service Pack 1 - Do's and dont's

with all due respect, I'd stay away from it as long as is possible, till now comments from people that are using FS and other simms, it seems to be a real pain in the %^&*.

_________________
System: i7 2600K @ 4.7G ~1,345V| Asus P8Z68 deluxe | Corsair Hydro H100 | Mushkin Redline 8G @ 1600MHz CL7 ~1,65V | Gainward GTX580 Phanthom 3Gb | 340.52 WHQL drivers | nVidia Inspector 1.9.7.2 | 1x Vertex 3 120G for OS | 1x Samsung 840 500G for FTX_fsX | 1x Samsung 830 256G | 1x Velociraptor 600G | 3x WD 500G | CM Pro Gold 1000W | CM HAF-X | Logitech G15 Blue edition | G940 Flight System |LG Flatron E2711T 27" | Iiyama ProLite E2409HDS 24" | W7 pro SP1 x64 EN | fsX + Acc + all FTX sceneries + OZx + REX_Essentials_OD + FSGX2010 + FSGW
Back to top
View user's profile ICQ Number MSN Messenger Photo Gallery
Shades
Forum Tree-Rat

Offline Offline
Joined: Mar 07, 2005
Posts: 6475
Location: 3rd Branch up, 'Ye Olde Oak', Green Wood.
PostPosted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 6:49 pm
Post subject: Re: Vista Service Pack 1 - Do's and dont's

DX10 vs DX9
Crysis, the poster child for modern PC gaming and DirectX 10, will arrive shortly. Crytek has tortured us for years with screenshots and short hands-on experiences showing off the game's wide-open world, with picturesque tropical battlegrounds, perfect for sipping Mai Tais or peppering random bad guys with automatic rifle fire. Crytek released the single-player demo late last week, and we set up a few test systems to see just how the game looks under Windows Vista compared to Windows XP. We also took some in-game benchmarks to see how the frame rates compare in DirectX 9 and DirectX 10.

It wouldn't be an exaggeration to claim that the environments in Crysis come mighty close to photo-realistic. The beaches, sky, and rocks all have a gritty, real-earth feel to them. Crytek took plant matter to a new realm--a botanist would have a field day in Crysis. The palm trees, shrubbery, and grass create the feeling of tropical jungle more so than any other game we've come across.

The game officially limits in-game settings to "high quality" in Windows XP, while Windows Vista gets an additional "very high quality" graphics setting. Crysis still looks good at high quality, but it's a noticeable step down from the very high quality settings. Some ingenious users managed to enable very high quality on the Crysis demo in Windows XP through a clever bit of configuration-file editing. The second image in each set of comparison shots demonstrate what the hacked very high quality settings look like in Windows XP.

As far as we can tell, the difference between very high quality in Windows XP and Windows Vista is quite subtle. We noticed some extra shadowing on the rocks in the Vista version, and while there are differences between the hacked XP shots and the Vista shots, we can't really say that one looks better. Developers have gotten very good at working around hardware limitations to fake great graphics, so we wouldn't be surprised if the DX9 effects were good enough to simulate the results of a more "accurate" DX10 shader.


DX10(ish) in XP
This is pretty interesting .. on the Crysis Forums they offers a tip on improving the visuals in the Crysis demo under DirectX 9, saying the game can be coaxed into looking more like the game running under DirectX 10 without using Vista!

Examples here.

If you tweak the configuration files in CVarGroups by copying and pasting the "very high" settings (1st paragraph) IN PLACE of the "high" settings (last paragraph) the game will load the highest possible settings even though the drop-down menus display "high." The difference between "high" settings and the tweaked settings is immense: shadows are deeper, more realistic; the leaves have better reflective properties, better textures; the colours are better; and the level of detail is simply stunning.

With these settings I'm running the game between 15-25 FPS at 1440x900 and (wait for it) 8x AA, and it looks PERFECT. Best of all, this is in XP. So I'm happy. I have XP and I'm playing the game at settings higher than DX9 allows (strictly speaking). Give this a try if your rig can handle it.

_________________
Skwerl's place.

Com-Central's cutest, fluffiest, twitchiest, tail.
CPU > Intel i9-9900k (o/c 4.9GHz); COOLING > BeQuiet! Dark Rock Pro 4;
MOBO > ASUS PRIME Z390-A; RAM > 2x32GB Corsair LPX 2666MHz;
GPU > Gigabyte GEFORCE GTX650Ti PCI-e 3.0 2Gb GDDR5;
AUDIO > Creative X-Fi Xtreme Music (plus - Universal Audio UAD2 Quad Custom accelerator);
HDD > 3x1TB+ M.2. SSDs; LCD > DELL - S2419HGF (1920x1080);
PSU > 650W be quiet Straight Power 11 - 80+ Gold;
CASE > BeQuiet! SILENT BASE 601; OS > Windows 11 Home Advanced (64-bit).
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website ICQ Number
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic    Revive this topic    Printer Friendly Page    Forum Index ›  Software
Page 1 of 1
All times are GMT - 6 Hours

Archive Revive
Username:
This is an archived topic - your reply will not be appended here.
Instead, a new topic will be generated in the active forum.
The new topic will provide a reference link to this archived topic.