±Recent Visitors

Recent Visitors to Com-Central!

±User Info-big


Welcome Anonymous

Nickname
Password

Membership:
Latest: HighestAce
New Today: 0
New Yesterday: 0
Overall: 6648

People Online:
Members: 0
Visitors: 262
Total: 262
Who Is Where:
 Visitors:
01: Home
02: Photo Gallery
03: Home
04: Community Forums
05: Community Forums
06: Photo Gallery
07: Downloads
08: Community Forums
09: Community Forums
10: Community Forums
11: Home
12: Home
13: Community Forums
14: Photo Gallery
15: Downloads
16: Community Forums
17: Home
18: Home
19: Community Forums
20: Community Forums
21: Community Forums
22: Photo Gallery
23: Community Forums
24: Home
25: Photo Gallery
26: Downloads
27: Community Forums
28: Community Forums
29: Community Forums
30: Community Forums
31: Community Forums
32: Community Forums
33: Community Forums
34: Downloads
35: Downloads
36: Downloads
37: Community Forums
38: Home
39: Community Forums
40: Community Forums
41: Home
42: Home
43: Community Forums
44: Home
45: Community Forums
46: Community Forums
47: Member Screenshots
48: Community Forums
49: Photo Gallery
50: Photo Gallery
51: Home
52: Home
53: Home
54: Home
55: Home
56: Home
57: Community Forums
58: Community Forums
59: Community Forums
60: Home
61: Community Forums
62: Photo Gallery
63: Member Screenshots
64: Community Forums
65: Community Forums
66: Community Forums
67: Community Forums
68: Community Forums
69: Member Screenshots
70: Community Forums
71: Community Forums
72: Home
73: Home
74: Downloads
75: Home
76: Community Forums
77: Community Forums
78: Community Forums
79: Community Forums
80: Community Forums
81: Community Forums
82: Photo Gallery
83: Your Account
84: Home
85: Community Forums
86: Home
87: Community Forums
88: Photo Gallery
89: Photo Gallery
90: Community Forums
91: Community Forums
92: News
93: Home
94: Community Forums
95: Community Forums
96: Community Forums
97: Community Forums
98: Community Forums
99: Home
100: Community Forums
101: Community Forums
102: Community Forums
103: Home
104: Home
105: Home
106: Home
107: Community Forums
108: Community Forums
109: Community Forums
110: Home
111: Community Forums
112: Home
113: Community Forums
114: Home
115: Community Forums
116: Photo Gallery
117: Community Forums
118: Downloads
119: Home
120: Community Forums
121: Community Forums
122: Downloads
123: Home
124: Community Forums
125: Community Forums
126: Home
127: Photo Gallery
128: Community Forums
129: Home
130: Community Forums
131: News Archive
132: Home
133: Community Forums
134: Community Forums
135: Community Forums
136: Community Forums
137: Home
138: Home
139: Community Forums
140: Photo Gallery
141: Community Forums
142: Search
143: Home
144: Community Forums
145: Photo Gallery
146: Community Forums
147: Downloads
148: Community Forums
149: Home
150: Community Forums
151: Community Forums
152: Community Forums
153: Community Forums
154: Community Forums
155: News Archive
156: Home
157: Community Forums
158: Community Forums
159: Community Forums
160: Community Forums
161: Home
162: Home
163: Community Forums
164: Community Forums
165: Community Forums
166: Community Forums
167: Community Forums
168: Community Forums
169: Home
170: Photo Gallery
171: Community Forums
172: Home
173: Community Forums
174: Community Forums
175: Community Forums
176: Photo Gallery
177: Community Forums
178: Home
179: Community Forums
180: Home
181: Home
182: Photo Gallery
183: Community Forums
184: Community Forums
185: Home
186: Search
187: Community Forums
188: Statistics
189: Community Forums
190: Community Forums
191: News
192: Community Forums
193: Community Forums
194: Home
195: Community Forums
196: Photo Gallery
197: Home
198: Community Forums
199: Member Screenshots
200: Community Forums
201: Community Forums
202: Community Forums
203: Home
204: Community Forums
205: Community Forums
206: Home
207: Downloads
208: Community Forums
209: Home
210: Photo Gallery
211: Community Forums
212: Downloads
213: Community Forums
214: Home
215: Community Forums
216: Community Forums
217: Community Forums
218: Home
219: Downloads
220: Community Forums
221: Home
222: Community Forums
223: Member Screenshots
224: Photo Gallery
225: Home
226: Community Forums
227: Community Forums
228: Community Forums
229: Photo Gallery
230: Photo Gallery
231: Home
232: Home
233: Community Forums
234: Home
235: Home
236: Community Forums
237: Community Forums
238: Community Forums
239: Community Forums
240: Community Forums
241: Home
242: Community Forums
243: Community Forums
244: Community Forums
245: Community Forums
246: Community Forums
247: Home
248: Community Forums
249: Downloads
250: Home
251: Community Forums
252: Community Forums
253: Community Forums
254: Home
255: Community Forums
256: Community Forums
257: Photo Gallery
258: Community Forums
259: Member Screenshots
260: Home
261: Community Forums
262: Home

Staff Online:

No staff members are online!
7,7cm IG L/27 at Jameston
A forum dedicated for the discussion of all kinds of artillery topics.
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page     Forum Index ›  Artillery Forum

View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
CharlieC
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Oct 24, 2012
Posts: 58

PostPosted: Sun May 04, 2014 10:55 am
Post subject: 7,7cm IG L/27 at Jameston

One of my many projects is researching the derivatives of the German 7,7cm FK 96 n.A. One of the most modified variants of the FK 96 was the 7,7cm IG (Infanterie Geschutz) L/27. I had thought there were very few survivors of these guns. However, there are at least 4 in North America.
One of them is at the Pennsylvania Military Museum in Boalsburg, PA. The other is in Thomaston. I don't know which state and there are 5 Thomastons in the USA. Anyone know where this gun is? A bonus for me would be some better images of the gun.

Regards,

Charlie

_________________
landships.info
Back to top
View user's profile
CharlieC
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Oct 24, 2012
Posts: 58

PostPosted: Mon May 05, 2014 12:28 am
Post subject: Re: 7,7cm IG L/27 at Thomaston

Found the gun - don't know why I said Jameston meant Thomaston.

It's Thomaston, CT at Google coords 41.674007, -73.072779 at the foot of the war memorial cnr Main and East Main Sts.

Anyone have images of this gun?

Regards,

Charlie

_________________
landships.info
Back to top
View user's profile
Pzkpfw-e
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jul 21, 2010
Posts: 1202

PostPosted: Tue May 06, 2014 7:20 pm
Post subject: Re: 7,7cm IG L/27 at Jameston



Back to top
View user's profile
CharlieC
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Oct 24, 2012
Posts: 58

PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2014 10:03 pm
Post subject: Re: 7,7cm IG L/27 at Jameston

Thank you for the images.

I'd guess there may be other examples of the IG L/27 and the Nahkampfkanone lurking misidentified among the surviving guns.

The Nahkampfkanone is harder to pick since it was a fairly minimal modification of the standard FK 96 n.A (smaller wheels, deleted lower section of the gun shield and footrests on the axle tree seats).

Regards,

Charlie

_________________
landships.info
Back to top
View user's profile
vagabond
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Dec 05, 2009
Posts: 1388
Location: Constantly moving across US
PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2014 5:18 pm
Post subject: Re: 7,7cm IG L/27 at Jameston

Charlie -

Is this the 7,7cm IG (Infanterie Geschutz) L/27 you mention? Photo is from our gallery of the PA Military Museum in Boalsburg.



Gallery link:
www.vgbimages.com/AFV-...937_NH7GqV
Back to top
View user's profile
CharlieC
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Oct 24, 2012
Posts: 58

PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2014 11:43 pm
Post subject: Re: 7,7cm IG L/27 at Jameston

Certainly looks like a 7,7cm IG L/27. The images from the rear of the gun tick most of the boxes as an IG.

Does the museum know they have a rare gun parked outside?

I have a list of diagnostic items which help identify IG L/27s which might help people identify surviving IGs lurking among the FK 96 n.As.

1. the wheel diameter was reduced to about 1m (I've read 960mm but I'm not certain about this)
2. the wheel track was reduced by about 30cm.
3. the axle was moved back about 30cm.
4. no axle tree seats were fitted.
5. the gun shield was designed so it could be removed easily and was narrower
6. the cover over the recuperator spring adjuster was enlarged and hinged (the barrel could be removed by unlocking the spur under the barrel from the recoil assembly)
7. the gunner's and loader's seat brackets were a different design.
8. there are brackets at the end of trail which originally held a counterweight required because the gun was unbalanced because the axle had been moved back.
9. the spade is a different profile (not certain about this one).

The total build of IG L/27s seems to have been about 240 guns. The IGs were more likely to have been captured than the field guns since they were deployed at infantry battalion level under infantry control, i.e. very close to the front line.

Regards,

Charlie

_________________
landships.info
Back to top
View user's profile
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page    Forum Index ›  Artillery Forum
Page 1 of 1
All times are GMT - 6 Hours



Jump to:  


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You cannot download files in this forum