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Something for the "Surviving Post-WW2 T34 based vehicle's" list

An VT-34 spotted at the same Military event in the Netherlands as the M51 of the previous post
The vehicle belongs to an Dutch WW2 military vehicle society, called "Lucky Seventh" based on the 7th US Armored Division



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Something for the "Surviving_Post-WW2 Shermans" list

An M51 Isherman spotted at an Military event in the Netherlands
The vehicle belongs to an Dutch WW2 military vehicle society, called "Santa Fe" based on the 35th US Infantry Division



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New vehicles? (not in registers) at
Duxford Military Vehicle Show 6th June 2010

Daimler Armoured Car
www.flickr.com/photos/...217487682/

A34 Comet "Camelot"
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- Koluchiy
Hello, Pierre-Olivier.

I've looked your file about T-34-76s.

"Krasnodar Edge" is something unimaginable :).
There should be a word "territory" or at least "region".


I corrected the mistake. That happens when we deal with foreign spellings and specific words about regions, territories etc..

You may note that there was also an entry for the city of Krasnodar, and I correctly noted it as being in the "Krasnodar Krai".

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"Edge" is likely almost certainly a babelfish translation of "Kray,"/"Krai" which like "Krajina" literally translates to frontier, border, or edge.

I would just leave it as Krasnodar Krai.


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Hello, Pierre-Olivier.

I've looked your file about T-34-76s.

"Krasnodar Edge" is something unimaginable :).
There should be a word "territory" or at least "region".

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Check out all the jeeps, and there was a Bugatti engine block too.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 4:11 am
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I wonder what you would end up with after scraping the barnacles off of those M5s? And how much of that Sherman is still there?

Neat pics, anyway.

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PostPosted: Sun May 30, 2010 7:07 pm
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Hi P-O

- the M24 Chaffee RN 3314 that was spotted at an open house day of the cavalry museum Amersfoort and has been missing since 2003
www.military-vehicle-p...er1028.asp

The longer I'm searching for AFV's in the Netherlands, the more I get the impression there is more in the various depot's then we all know

Michel


I think a lot is repainted. On the link above is another M24 with serial KX-15-57. I think this is a fake r/n. M24 KX-18-38 (which I think is fake also) is inside and the other M24 the museum had, and was always outside was the s/n 451, r/n 33293. The Museum of the technical troops at Zeisterspoor 1, Soesterberg also has a M24.

BTW, is this the same Sherman firefly, it was taken in 2003.


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Panhard 178 hull ? in Djibouti

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Have the Bovington Tank Museum a Grizzly: www.flickr.com/photos/...580950091/
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well, I've finally changed my mind and added this Firefly to the register, even if the photo was taken in 1985. I got an email from Joe DeMarco who told me that this Firefly is currently having some restoration works being done and has the Serial Number 5228.

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So I'll wait for the Firefly to show up again anywhere in the Netherlands. I wouldn't like to add a picture taken in 1985 in the PDF file, and would prefer to get a more recent one.

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Hi P-O

- the_shadock
Is this Firefly still at Amersfoort?
You don't have it listed in the NED AFVs reg


At the time of the first release I did not even know there had been an Firefly at Amersfoort, so i did not look for it

If it is still at Amersfoort, I can not tell you
I could find nothing more up-to-date then 2001
However I can also find nothing of the gap from 1945 to 1985 and gap between 1985 and 2001

However this year an lot of equipment appears if which an lot of people assumed that it was scrapped or sold
For example
- the Centurion KX-10-30 that showed up at Oirschot
i39.tinypic.com/nvzl7l.jpg

- the M24 Chaffee RN 3314 that was spotted at an open house day of the cavalry museum Amersfoort and has been missing since 2003
www.military-vehicle-p...er1028.asp

I would not be suprised if the Firefly showed up again

The longer I'm searching for AFV's in the Netherlands, the more I get the impression there is more in the various depot's then we all know

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- Michel_Krauss
Hi P-O

I have found something for the Sherman Firefly register

It's the Firefly that is at Amersfoort
The picture is taken at the Cavalry museum location, in 1985

I recognize the building in the back ground, because it's the main building of the museum

This is the same vehicle that is mentioned in the book: Sherman Firefly, from Mark Hayward from 2001

It is 100% that this is the same vehicle because of the PaK 40 muzzle brake fitted to the main gun

According the book it's part of the museum collection

The link to the wikipedia page:
commons.wikimedia.org/...sfoort.jpg

The copyright holder of the picture, released it into the public domain. This applies worldwide

Michel


Is this Firefly still at Amersfoort?
You don't have it listed in the NED AFVs reg.

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