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Help in tank ID
The AFV ASSOCIATION was formed in 1964 to support the thoughts and research of all those interested in Armored Fighting Vehicles and related topics, such as AFV drawings. The emphasis has always been on sharing information and communicating with other members of similar interests; e.g. German armor, Japanese AFVs, or whatever.

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Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 12:57 am Post subject: Help in tank ID
First of all I want to say hi to this forum, I am a WW2 tanks fan from Spain. I found this pic in internet and dont know what kind of tank it is. Probably it is a german or soviet T70 variant: It is the same model as this one placed in the Stalin Line Museum, may be even it is the same tank?. Grettings.

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Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 1:19 am
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The turret looks like a mocked up dummy to me. The vision ports appear solid, there is no clearance in the gun mantlet for elevation and at least one view show a suspicious amount of empty space between turret and hull. My impression is that the turret is made of wood or some combination of that and sheet metals. Maybe a "movie tank"?

I have no idea what the hull is from, but someone will probably be along soon with some good ideas.

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Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 2:03 am Post subject: Re: Help in tank ID
Very interesting your point about a "movie tank" or a renactment scenery. I have seen some like this or similar, used so in Stalin Line:

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Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 6:45 am Post subject: Re: Help in tank ID
That is an AT-P Artillery Tractor and Prime Mover from Soviet Union en.valka.cz/viewtopic.php/t/102973

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Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 10:03 am Post subject: Re: Help in tank ID
I saw this vehicle on another forum and Bialy-r is absolutely right. _________________ hvasnakkerduom.blogspo...wagen.html

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Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 10:55 am Post subject: Re: Help in tank ID
Thank you very much for your help. Here I just found they are agree with your suspects also: www.militaryphotos.net...nks/page53 Even it isnt a WWII tank... Grettings, and great forum.

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Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 12:35 pm Post subject: Re: Help in tank ID
So the turret is fake? _________________ "TUMBLEWEED"

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Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 4:04 pm Post subject: Re: Help in tank ID
Oh completely! As P-O points out, there's no way to alter the "gun's" angle of elevation, solid "vision ports" and the thickness of the material that forms the commander's cupola looks like it wouldn't stop a good punch, let alone an a/t round.

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Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 5:13 pm Post subject: Re: Help in tank ID
- Pzkpfw-e Oh completely! As P-O points out.. Darn that P-O....he's stealing my soul!

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Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 6:56 pm Post subject: Re: Help in tank ID
oooops, For P-O, substitute Doug Kibbey (It's that smiley that distracted me!)

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Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 9:32 pm
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Military theater
In the absence of the original German vehicles, staff of Belarusian Historical and Cultural Complex and the Military History Club, adapted Soviet AFV in order to present their theatrical vision of the heroic struggles of "Stalin Line".

It is said that President Lukashov was delighted at.

Soviet artillery tractor AT-P - quasi Schützenpanzerwagen.

Successful replica of a Soviet tank BT-5.

Reference
www.stalin-line.by/english.shtml
www.stalin-line.by/galery3.shtml
www.stalin-line.by/galery4.shtml

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