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Syrian PanzerIV, shows its original owners
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 04, 2011 9:04 pm
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Dates from 1969 apparently.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 7:36 pm
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I thought it were former Spanish verhicles delivered from the factory to the Spanish??

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 9:56 pm
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True, but I believe most of the Syrian Panzer IV's were delivered from Czechoslovakia so this tank might be one of them.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 10:34 pm
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They came from Czechoslovakia and are J hulls, but use D turrets with a L/48 gun.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 4:15 am
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Most, if not all, Syrian Panzer IV's came from Czechoslovakia.
Here you can find some pictures taken in Lesany around 10 years ago. You can see their Pz IV before restoration. The configuration clearly matches the one used by the Syrians:
massimocorner.com/afv/lesany/

Nowadays the tank was restored to a more german-like WW II configuration.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 3:41 pm
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I've never seen Syrian IV's with those types of lights before.
Something new!
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 5:10 pm
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Among other things, there were also T-34/85 with Notek lights:



And ex-German 15 cm sFH 18, rebored to 152 mm and with a muzzle-brake:



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 08, 2011 8:36 am
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- Massimo_Foti

And ex-German 15 cm sFH 18, rebored to 152 mm and with a muzzle-brake:



Massimo


Interesting. But has it been re-bored?
here's another of the same species.

www.panoramio.com/photo/15916635

I have seen photos of a Hummel with a similar muzzle-brake
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 08, 2011 9:00 am
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I am pretty sure it was rebored. The shield is another post-war modification.

Are you sure you have seen Hummel with a muzzle brake? Could be they were Nashorn or even Wespe? Can you post or link to such a picture?

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 08, 2011 12:17 pm
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Ta-da!

Prototype, I assume the production models ditched the muzzle brake.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 08, 2011 12:26 pm
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First time I see such a thing. The caption says it's a prototype, but it could be it's just a retouched picture.

Massimo
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 08, 2011 5:53 pm
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massimocorner.com/afv/lesany/

does not work :'-(

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 6:29 am
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Could you please try again? It works for me:
http://massimocorner.com/afv/lesany/

In case you are looking for Pz IV pictures, I can assemble a DVD for you, just write me a PM if you want.

Massimo
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 8:33 am
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I get this Massimo.

Index of /afv/lesany

Name Last modified Size Description
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Parent Directory 09-Apr-2011 14:25 -
10cm_39_01.jpg 29-Nov-2009 10:47 57k
10cm_39_02.jpg 29-Nov-2009 10:47 58k

Pictures are there when you click on their names.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 10:50 am
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You can see the page from where the image belongs:
www.oocities.org/penta...ummel.html

Massimo
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