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Preserved Tanks in Switzerland
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 11:10 pm
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BTW, with regard to tracking all these vehicles in Brazil, be aware that at least as recently as 2005 or so, there was an individual there that privately owned quite a number of former government Stuarts and other vehicles...


I think you are referring to this:
www.militarytrader.com...iscovered/

One of the tank end up in Switzerland:
www.flickr.com/photos/...4249113513


Details here of the Stuart from Brazil that ended up in Switzerland, most of the photos are by Massimo, others are by the owners via Massimo:

Länzlinger Collection



M3 Stuart, CVR(T) Striker

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You already have plenty of pictures on this. In case you would like a few more, I saw it in Kradolf again last July:
www.flickr.com/photos/...4249113513

Feel free to grab the pictures from there as you see fit

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As for the Länzlinger collection, the Striker is currently on sale, the Sabre instead can be seen here:
www.flickr.com/photos/...4249113513

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 19, 2011 8:29 pm
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Feel free to grab the pictures from there as you see fit


Thanks. Does that Sabre also belong to the Länzlinger Collection? If so I'll add it asap.

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Sure, the Sabre belongs to the Länzlinger Collection, together with a BMP-1 and an hal-track. They are all runners

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 6:52 pm
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Hello everybody,

Where are the swiss army Amx 13 gone ? We can see a lot of older tanks for example Praga and Hetzer, but the Amx 13 is a rare tank now.

Thanks a lot for your informations.
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Most were sold to Singapore, just a few remained in Switzerland.

Among the ones I remember:

- Thun Panzermuseum (outdoor)
- Thun SHP (indorr, runner)
- Full Militarmuseum (runner?)
- Wildegg Militärmuseum (runner?)

There could be a few more, I may be able to dig a list during the weekend (I am away from home)

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Thanks a lot for your fast response Massimo. I didn't know that we sold these tanks to Singapore. I have my answer.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2011 2:46 pm
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Last week a Centurion ARV with destination Switzerland left Sweden.
It was one of the 19 ARV's that Sweden bought from Switzerland in 1988 that now went back on long term loan to the museum in Full Reuenthal.
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Thanks for the info!

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We have some of the preserved Swiss AMX-13s/Panzer 51s listed on PreservedTanks.com (most of the photo's are Massimo's):

Preserved AMX-13 Light Tanks

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Chris (Zemsi) has kindly sent me a load of photo's of tanks in Switzerland, many of which we previously didn't have photo's for. I've started by adding the ones for Bure:

Location ID 17970: Waffenplatz, Bure




Chris - many thanks! Please look over the entry for errors and omissions. For example, you can probably correct the locations as they were just my best guesses. To get the lat/longs you could try my Mapping page, starting with 'Bure, Switzerland', then follow the instructions. All your help is much appreciated.

Massimo - you might be interested in the new Pz 68s for your register. No registration numbers, unfortunately.

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Hi Trevor

No worries for sending my pics. It's good to see them concentrated "tank by tank".

I just send you the exact locations of the tanks.

Greetings
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Massimo - you might be interested in the new Pz 68s for your register. No registration numbers, unfortunately.


I have mixed feelings about those tanks, same for the ballasted Pz 68s used in Thun for tank recovery training. Should we consider them "preserved"? Confused

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I just send you the exact locations of the tanks.

Greetings
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Now updated with exact latitudes and longitudes from Chris:

preservedtanks.com/Loc...ryId=17970


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I have mixed feelings about those tanks, same for the ballasted Pz 68s used in Thun for tank recovery training. Should we consider them "preserved"? :?


It's a grey area, but I track tank wrecks including range targets (as do P.-O. and Neil) and I think these Pz 68s can be considered to be more 'preserved' than those wrecks! Plus I suspect it's only a matter of time.

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